Exposing the Grift: Go Woke Go Broke

[SuperAlly]

If I achieve nothing else in this forum, I want to educate everyone here to the fact that Screen Rant (and its sister site Game Rant) are 100% bought and paid for review factories. They are mouthpieces for the major media corporations: Disney perhaps above all.

Every single time they release a shitty movie or show, every single goddamn time, and that content gets destroyed by fans, Screen Rant will be out there fielding a, "People actually love it! It's getting *gasp* review-bombed! The real fans all feel positively!! Best show ever!!!"

I won't link it because these websites disgust me, but the current iteration is:
MCU Fans Are Fighting Back On Rotten Tomatoes After Ironheart Review Bombing

LOL, RottenTomatoes. Hilarious to see the company review factory citing the company meta-aggregator factory. Fans aren't fighting back. RT just deletes all the negative reviews as "review bombing". But hard as they try they can't botfarm enough positive reviews to ever get the number up.

I'm gonna add it to the pile. Elephants don't forget. We're gonna keep score by minding every time we as fans were attacked as racists or sexists or some form of bigotry for rejecting their shitty works of art, and they called it "review bombing". See how well these hold up to the test of time.

Ironheart (2025)
Snow White (2025) [they pre-emptively shamed fans for this]
Star Wars: The Acolyte (2024)
Agatha All Along (2024)
True Detective: Night Country (2024) [aka season 4]
Velma (2023)
Peter Pan & Wendy (2023)
The Little Mermaid (2023)
Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (2023)
Ahsoka (2023)
Black Panther: Wakanda Forever (2022)
Resident Evil (2022)
Ms. Marvel (2022)
She-Hulk (2022)
The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power (2022)
The Eternals (2021)
Watchmen (2019)
Batwoman (2019)
Terminator: Dark Fate (2019)
Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker (2019)
Captain Marvel (2019)
Star Trek: Discovery (2017)
Star Wars: The Last Jedi (2017)
The Promise (2016)
Ghostbusters (2016)

It should be to their absolute shame intellectually and morally that the likes of avenue, henryflower, deviante etc even try and argue against this

Look at that list man.

Are their racists, sexists, ists and phobes out there? Of course. But it's a minor problem and the vast majority of movie watching public are tired of shit movies and shows that are dressed up identity politics propaganda. The far left political machine is out of control and a far bigger problem than a few neanderthal racists or exists.

The lack of self awareness and intelligence of those aforementioned guys is off the scale too. Henry flower tried to come back at me about not having read that article and you showed it was him who should have spent time reading it.

From my perspective it absolutely strengthened the argument I was making, or arguing against, Disney absolutely have not made the bizarre fortune the other guy falsely claimed.

Why does it hurt them so much when the majority of people say "I don't like that crap show that was more interested in making some tedious identity politics statement than providing good entertainment". It's a perfectly reasonable view point to have. Especially when they are using IPs they have no care for but other people do have long time personal attachment to.

 

[HenryFlower]

Did you read it? The headline summarizes the article's contents pretty succinctly.

That included their "ingenious" schemes to exploit the heavy European incentives to attract filmmaking with kickbacks to film studios.

Assuming a typical revenue-sharing scheme between Disney and theater chains, of the $5.924 billion sum international revenue for those 5 movies at the box office, they would keep $3.258 billion. So $3.258 billion - $2.1 billion = $1.158 billion net revenue.

That's before all of the taxes they'd have to pay across the dozens of international countries where it showed. The heaviest box office takes are in countries that tend to levy the steepest taxes. Somewhere at the end of that is your actual profit.

They paid $4.05bn to acquire Lucasfilm.

i did. i’m honestly surprised you’re so willingly championing the author’s accounting data considering her figures are based on a hardline estimate of a 50/50 split (not that her number-crunching wasn’t thorough or enlightening).

it also doesn’t include profits from merchandising (this is a huge one, & she admits as much, but it is obviously a major factor in the Lucasfilms acquisition), home media, theatrical re-releases, or licensing & rights deals.

& even then, ignoring all that, her results still paint a pretty clear picture: 4/5 of the Disney Star Wars movies returned a net profit for the studio.

If I achieve nothing else in this forum, I want to educate everyone here to the fact that Screen Rant (and its sister site Game Rant) are 100% bought and paid for review factories. They are mouthpieces for the major media corporations: Disney perhaps above all.

Every single time they release a shitty movie or show, every single goddamn time, and that content gets destroyed by fans, Screen Rant will be out there fielding a, "People actually love it! It's getting *gasp* review-bombed! The real fans all feel positively!! Best show ever!!!"

I won't link it because these websites disgust me, but the current iteration is:
MCU Fans Are Fighting Back On Rotten Tomatoes After Ironheart Review Bombing

both sites are truly a plague. you can’t google anything film related w/o the top results trying to shove Screen/Game Rant down your throat. the articles are legit useless dogshit.

The Eternals (2021)
Watchmen (2019)

i’m predicting The Eternals will eventually undergo a critical reevaluation. i think it’s got the juice to find a cult following within the MCU community—future generations of fans & established fans alike—at some point down the line.

HBO’s Watchmen will hold up. it slaps.

 

[Xanzito]

If I achieve nothing else in this forum, I want to educate everyone here to the fact that Screen Rant (and its sister site Game Rant) are 100% bought and paid for review factories. They are mouthpieces for the major media corporations: Disney perhaps above all.

Every single time they release a shitty movie or show, every single goddamn time, and that content gets destroyed by fans, Screen Rant will be out there fielding a, "People actually love it! It's getting *gasp* review-bombed! The real fans all feel positively!! Best show ever!!!"

I won't link it because these websites disgust me, but the current iteration is:
MCU Fans Are Fighting Back On Rotten Tomatoes After Ironheart Review Bombing

LOL, RottenTomatoes. Hilarious to see the company review factory citing the company meta-aggregator factory. Fans aren't fighting back. RT just deletes all the negative reviews as "review bombing". But hard as they try they can't botfarm enough positive reviews to ever get the number up.

I'm gonna add it to the pile. Elephants don't forget. We're gonna keep score by minding every time we as fans were attacked as racists or sexists or some form of bigotry for rejecting their shitty works of art, and they called it "review bombing". See how well these hold up to the test of time.

Ironheart (2025)
Snow White (2025) [they pre-emptively shamed fans for this]
Star Wars: The Acolyte (2024)
Agatha All Along (2024)
True Detective: Night Country (2024) [aka season 4]
Velma (2023)
Peter Pan & Wendy (2023)
The Little Mermaid (2023)
Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (2023)
Ahsoka (2023)
Black Panther: Wakanda Forever (2022)
Resident Evil (2022)
Ms. Marvel (2022)
She-Hulk (2022)
The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power (2022)
The Eternals (2021)
Watchmen (2019)
Batwoman (2019)
Terminator: Dark Fate (2019)
Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker (2019)
Captain Marvel (2019)
Star Trek: Discovery (2017)
Star Wars: The Last Jedi (2017)
The Promise (2016)
Ghostbusters (2016)

Btw when i saw even Rolling Stone said it was a big pile of shit i realized it was unsalvageable

 

[Madmick]

i did. i’m honestly surprised you’re so willingly championing the author’s accounting data considering her figures are based on a hardline estimate of a 50/50 split (not that her number-crunching wasn’t thorough or enlightening).

& even then, ignoring all that, her results still paint a pretty clear picture: 4/5 of the Disney Star Wars movies returned a net profit for the studio.

Estimates of revenue sharing between Disney and the theater owners is no different if you use a 55/45 split in Disney's favor as I did. But, more importantly, nothing here contradicts the central contention of the article. The headline accurately summarized its contents. It wasn't misleading like all the previous articles quoted that cited the Disney shareholder presentation spin that seeks to mislead the audience into believing Star Wars has raked in triple the cost of the purchase already. That is absolute bullshit, and not justifiable.

it also doesn’t include profits from merchandising (this is a huge one, & she admits as much, but it is obviously a major factor in the Lucasfilms acquisition), home media, theatrical re-releases, or licensing & rights deals.

Well, this is embarrassing. The article didn't purport to include merchandising. You berated him for not reading the article, but he was correct about its contents. Meanwhile, you apparently overlooked (or forgot) the headline of the article itself: Disney ‘Star Wars’ Box-Office Profits Fail To Cover Cost Of Buying Lucasfilm

 

[HenryFlower]

Estimates of revenue sharing between Disney and the theater owners is no different if you use a 55/45 split in Disney's favor as I did. But, more importantly, nothing here contradicts the central contention of the article. The headline accurately summarized its contents. It wasn't misleading like all the previous articles quoted that cited the Disney shareholder presentation spin that seeks to mislead the audience into believing Star Wars has raked in triple the cost of the purchase already. That is absolute bullshit, and not justifiable.

it’s not like the shareholder presentation withheld the information from the shareholders; that’s on the article authors & editors for not doing their due diligence before shipping the articles out into the interwebz

Well, this is embarrassing. The article didn't purport to include merchandising. You berated him for not reading the article, but he was correct about its contents. Meanwhile, you apparently overlooked (or forgot) the headline of the article itself: Disney ‘Star Wars’ Box-Office Profits Fail To Cover Cost Of Buying Lucasfilm

i suppose i just fail to see the point then? it’s a weird flex, but okay. unless they start sending more Solos down the pipeline (& to a lesser extent, more Rise of Skywalkers), they will inevitably break even on their $4b purchase w/ only their box office profits

 

[SuperAlly]

it’s not like the shareholder presentation withheld the information from the shareholders; that’s on the article authors & editors for not doing their due diligence before shipping the articles out into the interwebz

i suppose i just fail to see the point then? it’s a weird flex, but okay. unless they start sending more Solos down the pipeline (& to a lesser extent, more Rise of Skywalkers), they will inevitably break even on their $4b purchase w/ only their box office profits

It wasn’t a “flex”, it was refutation of a poorly attempted flex by someone else.

You should have just let this one drop, but you won’t put down your spade.

 

[HenryFlower]

It wasn’t a “flex”, it was refutation of a poorly attempted flex by someone else.

You should have just let this one drop, but you won’t put down your spade.

ah. that makes more sense, i suppose.

 

[ermac88]

Na. I am sure those numbers were debunked. Creatine accounting and including forward projections.

No matter how you spin it, the numbers clearly show following a woke agenda is decimating the fanbase.

Na. I am sure those numbers were debunked. Creatine accounting and including forward projections.

No matter how you spin it, the numbers clearly show following a woke agenda is decimating the fanbase.

The numbers released to share holders and the IRS are "debunked"

by who?

you?

 

[SuperAlly]

The numbers released to share holders and the IRS are "debunked"

by who?

you?

Imagine not realising you are the dupe

 

[SuperAlly]

The experiment has failed catastrophically.

Taking predominantly male franchises and trying to feminise them hasn't worked. The mythical modern audience doesn't exist. Swathes of females and homosexuals don't flock from love island or dancing on ice or I dunno gilmours girls to star wars and comic books.

Give them back to the predominantly male geeks and keep making wicked and barbie etc for the predominantly female and homosexual audience

It doesn't need to be this financial disaster and bad PR shit show.

 

[ermac88]

This thread is a 100 pages now and essentially incoherent

In terms of entertainment, the biggest movies of all times are overwhelmingly Disney movies, which is evidently woke, whatever that means.

Maybe the people clinging to this idea or opposed to the wokety woke can ACTUALLY define it, it would offer some clarity

 

[SuperAlly]

This thread is a 100 pages now and essentially incoherent

In terms of entertainment, the biggest movies of all times are overwhelmingly Disney movies, which is evidently woke, whatever that means.

Maybe the people clinging to this idea or opposed to the wokety woke can ACTUALLY define it, it would offer some clarity

You're like 90 plus pages late for these lame, weak ass arguments

 

[ermac88]

You're like 90 plus pages late for these lame, weak ass arguments

This is not an argument

This is the fact of the top 25 grossing movies ever.

 

[SuperAlly]

This is not an argument

This is the fact of the top 25 grossing movies ever.

You don't have an argument

First movie on your list

Avengers endgame.

Woke?

You are an idiot or you are dishonest.

Either way you aren't worth any more of an argument than that.

 

[SuperAlly]

Just sit down and stop embarrassing yourself

At least deviante and avenue94 did that a long time ago

 

[SuperAlly]

 

[ermac88]

You don't have an argument

First movie on your list

Avengers endgame.

Woke?

You are an idiot or you are dishonest.

Either way you aren't worth any more of an argument than that.

You chose one movie out twenty five.

marvel/disney is woke are they not?


can you define what woke means in your erudite opinion?

 

[LostMyBlackBelt]

Go MAGA, Fuck lots of children

 

[ShadowRun]

TS with another W lol , maybe he will make another thread of some biologists who said men can get pregnant, fucking lol

 

[SuperAlly]

You chose one movie out twenty five.

marvel/disney is woke are they not?


can you define what woke means in your erudite opinion?

I went to the first movie on your list.

If you start your argument with a flat out lie, fair chance the entire argument is in bad faith. And funny enough a large number of the movies you are claiming are not supporting your argument

Same as the other guys learned to do recently, put down the spade. Making a fool of yourself