Exposing the Grift: Go Woke Go Broke

But not in the ham-fisted way it has been in the last little while. This is the problem with "woke". Progressives in the past just pushed ideas that didn't denigrate others at the same time. It was just natural, and the writing would reflect that. "Woke" is militant in it's approach, and openly declares disdain for people that don't fit into their bubble.

Progressives of the past would open people's eyes, and tackled subjects intelligently. Progressives of today close them, and tackle subjects ignorantly. "Woke" is just open racism/sexism coming from a minority of people. That's where they fucked up. The whole "Let's all get along and be open to new ideas from all walks of life" message doesn't land when they insulate themselves, and prop themselves up as being "superior" to what they deem "others".

It's just bigotry with a smiley face sticker on it. It's no wonder why it eventually imploded.
All sorts of diverse shit with various messaging still makes shit loads of money. Fucking look at Barbie lol, the amount of screaming about it and it was a license to print money. The stuff that's poorly written/created eats a bag of dicks. A story as old as time. It's not complicated
 
Bioware hasn't been run well in years dude lol.
I clocked out with Mass Effect Andromeda. That was a shitshow, couldn't be arsed to finish it. 60 bucks down the drain.
When the gameplay is bad, you finish for the story. When the story is bad, you might stay for the gameplay. And then there's Mass Effect Andromeda .
 
All sorts of diverse shit with various messaging still makes shit loads of money. Fucking look at Barbie
Oh', you mean that movie where they didn't replace the typical blonde hottie, with a fat black woman? Didn't make Ken her gay BFF?

That movie wasn't woke. It was made for women, by women. If there's a feminist message in there, that's fine. Why? Because it's made for women. This isn't putting a square peg in a round hole, like woke projects try to do.
The stuff that's poorly written/created eats a bag of dicks. A story as old as time. It's not complicated
But you seem to not understand why woke projects are badly written. It's because they hired a bunch of woke morons to write it, who only care about pushing some agenda. It's all correlated. The writing sucks because it's woke. Woke people wrote it. 2+2=4.
 
Oh', you mean that movie where they didn't replace the typical blonde hottie, with a fat black woman? Didn't make Ken her gay BFF?

That movie wasn't woke. It was made for women, by women. If there's a feminist message in there, that's fine. Why? Because it's made for women. This isn't putting a square peg in a round hole, like woke projects try to do.

But you seem to not understand why woke projects are badly written. It's because they hired a bunch of woke morons to write it, who only care about pushing some agenda. It's all correlated. The writing sucks because it's woke. Woke people wrote it. 2+2=4.
Conservative media like Lil Benny and the grifter sphere flipped a a shit about Barbie before and after it came out. So it seems ya'll don't agree about woke. And that's basically the point. It's not woke if you like it and/or it made a shitzillion dollars, it is if it sucks. It's nonsense
 
Conservative media like Lil Benny and the grifter sphere flipped a a shit about Barbie before and after it came out.
That's all good for a clickbait artist that you seem to put a lot of stock into. You're debating with me. Not little Benny.

And that's basically the point. It's not woke if you like it and/or it made a shitzillion dollars, it is if it sucks. It's nonsense
Well, I can agree that some take it too far. Lord knows I've given the "'Kill Bill' would be considered 'woke', and Tarantino would be getting destroyed by some today" example a million times. It doesn't erase actual woke projects, though. You're coming from a position that it actually doesn't exist, and it's all just one big grift or whatever. That is patently false. It exists, and it's horrible.
 
That's all good for a clickbait artist that you seem to put a lot of stock into. You're debating with me. Not little Benny.


Well, I can agree that some take it too far. Lord knows I've given the "'Kill Bill' would be considered 'woke', and Tarantino would be getting destroyed by some today" example a million times. It doesn't erase actual woke projects, though. You're coming from a position that it actually doesn't exist, and it's all just one big grift or whatever. That is patently false. It exists, and it's horrible.
What is woke
 
BTW, this thread is in large part about grifters and the phrase, hence the title, Benny falls into that category. He burned a barbie doll lmao. Clickbait artist could constitute grifter, no? Critical goof also had plenty of hot takes before movies like Barbie came out.

I don't put stock into what these people have to say or I wouldn't have made this thread
 
What is woke
I've already told you. In entertainment's case, it's militant Progressive ideology being forcefully infused into projects where it doesn't belong, to the detriment of the project.

I can see you're all out arguments, if that's all you've got. If your opinion is that "Woke doesn't exist", then you're simply living in denial. Likely due to your own politics. You're embarrassed so much by it, that you'd rather pretend that it doesn't exist.
 
I've already told you. In entertainment's case, it's militant Progressive ideology being forcefully infused into projects where it doesn't belong, to the detriment of the project.

I can see you're all out arguments, if that's all you've got. If your opinion is that "Woke doesn't exist", then you're simply living in denial. Likely due to your own politics. You're embarrassed so much by it, that you'd rather pretend that it doesn't exist.
"Militant", interesting. So who determines militant vs non militant ideology? Cuz progressive stuff is everywhere and a lot of it sells well.

As far as being embarrassed, lol
 
"Militant", interesting. So who determines militant vs non militant ideology? Cuz progressive stuff is everywhere and a lot of it sells well.
And a lot of it doesn't. The stuff that doesn't, is usually because it doesn't fit and is out of place. I'm not surprised if a gay guy buys a gay themed T-Shirt at a gay bar in Portland. Much like I'm not surprised if that same gay themed T-Shirt doesn't sell well at a non-gay bar in Texas. What don't you understand?
 
And a lot of it doesn't. The stuff that doesn't, is usually because it doesn't fit and is out of place. I'm not surprised if a gay guy buys a gay themed T-Shirt at a gay bar in Portland. Much like I'm not surprised if that same gay themed T-Shirt doesn't sell well at a non-gay bar in Texas. What don't you understand?
That sounds like shitty writing more than the dude being gay being the problem. What don't you understand?
 
That sounds like shitty writing more than the dude being gay being the problem. What don't you understand?
But the shitty writing comes from the militant wokesters who wrote it. This isn't confusing to anybody but you and other Liberals, who pretend not to see it, because you're embarrassed by it. You're the party of "Men can get pregnant", and you're still acting all aloof as to what "woke" is. Enough already. You're not convincing anyone that you don't actually know what it is. You know, but you just want to play some stupid game where you don't, and it's just a figment of everyone's imagination. Good luck with that. Working out great for ya right now. Nobody can tell that you're full of shit...
 
But the shitty writing comes from the militant wokesters who wrote it. This isn't confusing to anybody but you and other Liberals, who pretend not to see it, because you're embarrassed by it. You're the party of "Men can get pregnant", and you're still acting all aloof as to what "woke" is. Enough already. You're not convincing anyone that you don't actually know what it is. You know, but you just want to play some stupid game where you don't, and it's just a figment of everyone's imagination. Good luck with that. Working out great for ya right now. Nobody can tell that you're full of shit...
Are you okay? Lmao

So shit writing
 
You're the party of "Men can get pregnant",

Yet you'll never quote a single poster in here making this argument.

This is about as devastating as me just calling you all flat-earthers because some dumbfuck right-winger is. Hell, I'd be more accurate as about half you trump humpers are actual flat earthers in here.

You project a retarded, made up worldview to justify yourself getting played by a conman.
 
Veilguard wasn't what tanked shares, it was EA FC massively missing forecasts in both purchases and recurring revenue. EA FC was supposed to account for about quarter of EA revenue. For someone concerned bout video games you seem to have no understanding of how the finances of that industry work.

What woke games have they made? Also just define woke already, you keep mentioning it but clearly have no idea what you even mean by the term.
Your recent arguments all seem to be “woke games aren’t financial disasters because other financial disasters exist”.

This isn’t a refutation of people being sick of woke crap entertainment products.

Ignore “go woke, go broke, because there are also sometimes other bad things that fail”.

The company themselves have self confessed veilguard massively underperformed to the point all the people working on it have to find new jobs.

Man City are having a crap season so Man United aren’t having a crap season is your current logically invalid argument of choice and no one is buying it no matter how many times you reassert it.
 
But not in the ham-fisted way it has been in the last little while. This is the problem with "woke". Progressives in the past just pushed ideas that didn't denigrate others at the same time. It was just natural, and the writing would reflect that. "Woke" is militant in it's approach, and openly declares disdain for people that don't fit into their bubble.

Progressives of the past would open people's eyes, and tackled subjects intelligently. Progressives of today close them, and tackle subjects ignorantly. "Woke" is just open racism/sexism coming from a minority of people. That's where they fucked up. The whole "Let's all get along and be open to new ideas from all walks of life" message doesn't land when they insulate themselves, and prop themselves up as being "superior" to what they deem "others".

It's just bigotry with a smiley face sticker on it. It's no wonder why it eventually imploded.
This is it in a nutshell. When your woke identity politics is at the forefront of everything you do, to the point you don’t even spend anytime trying to make a good story, good writing etc or you are so entrenched in your woke nonsense that it directly and very negatively affects the things that make a good entertainment product - again, the story, the writing, the casting etc etc - the result is the guff we repeatedly get now and that audiences are ignoring en masse.
 
Oh', you mean that movie where they didn't replace the typical blonde hottie, with a fat black woman? Didn't make Ken her gay BFF?

That movie wasn't woke. It was made for women, by women. If there's a feminist message in there, that's fine. Why? Because it's made for women. This isn't putting a square peg in a round hole, like woke projects try to do.

But you seem to not understand why woke projects are badly written. It's because they hired a bunch of woke morons to write it, who only care about pushing some agenda. It's all correlated. The writing sucks because it's woke. Woke people wrote it. 2+2=4.
It’s funny they try and pretend there is zero correlation with putting these activists in charge of products and the bad writing, the bad acting, the bad casting, the limitations in terms of what it places on creative choices etc etc

They try and pretend there is no correlation between the two things when there clearly is.

Also, as you rightly point out, they try and reframe the argument. Barbie isn’t woke so much as it is made for women. Trying to turn traditionally male IPs into Barbie or wicked type nonsense is more in line with “woke” and you see these things habitually fail.

A product for women aimed at women did well. Colour me shocked. A product traditionally attractive to men got “barbified” and failed. Colour me equally shocked.
 
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