Exposing the Grift: Go Woke Go Broke

[FIMN]

Saying they're 'grifters' means they actually liked The Acolyte & Rings of Power, but portray like they didn't like it on their videos.

And you're attributing to them far far more power than they actually have... to get a $180 million budget series 'The Acolyte' cancelled.

You're complimenting them far far more than you're insulting them

I think they probably chose to dislike it before they saw it - at a guess.

 

[deviake]

I thought it was just actually diverse and gives you options all over the place, but isn't really forceful with everything.

I've played until level 3-4 or something and you meet this one gay dude, you can add him to your party but you can also just choose to kill him instead. How is that woke?

Maybe there's actual woke stuff in there I don't know about but from I've heard it just give you a broad range of (sometimes crazy sexual) options. Still planning to buy it and play co-op with my buddy next year.

It's politically progressive, you can pick your pronouns, it's sexually progreasive, there's shit loads of diversity... what is woke then if that's not it?

 

[deviake]

I think they probably chose to dislike it before they saw it - at a guess.

William, the critical grifter, reviewed the latest The Boys season without even watching lol

 

[Barteh]

It's politically progressive, you can pick your pronouns, it's sexually progreasive, there's shit loads of diversity... what is woke then if that's not it?

I consider things to be woke mostly when it's that kind of diversity forced into settings where it doesn't belong.

Gay black spiderman and the 16th century queen of England being black, yeah that's woke. Having the ability to play a gay character or do weird sexual shit in a crazy fantasy setting I don't really consider to be woke. Progressive is a better term imo.

Maybe I'll play a gay dwarf with a huge hog who runs around naked half the time, the fuck do I care. In D:OS2 my buddy was an undead lizard woman named Reptillary Clinton.

I just play those kinda games to fuck around with my buddy and have fun, so if the storyline and gameplay is good I'll be having tons of fun.

 

[AWilder]

Damn, I guess I should sell my Disney stock

 

[GearSolidMetal]

I think they probably chose to dislike it before they saw it - at a guess.

Pretty sure the trailers, plot synopsis, and crew interviews were a dead giveaway it was going to be dislikable.

To their credit, many 'YouTuber' were giving House Of The Dragon negative coverage before the premiere... and then they didn't cover it negatively, because it proved to be a pretty good show.

 

[Nizam al-Mulk]

Saying they're 'grifters' means they actually liked The Acolyte & Rings of Power, but portray like they didn't like it on their videos.

And you're attributing to them far far more power than they actually have... to get a $180 million budget series 'The Acolyte' cancelled.

You're complimenting them far far more than you're insulting them

The CHUDS are all the baddies, not just youtubers.

It's never been true that you go woke, you go broke.

The absurdity of it was always obvious when they constantly accuse Hollywood of being liberal and woke but Hollywood continues to profit and thrive.

If they were right, we'd be inundated with Gina Carano and Jim Cavaziel masterpieces instead...

Hollywood is thriving right now? Which studio?

 

[GearSolidMetal]

The CHUDS are all the baddies, not just youtubers.

And what is a 'CHUD' ?

 

[SuperAlly]

Hollywood (Media) has ALWAYS been woke, and that is undeniable fact.

And they should be, as 'woke' just means 'recognizing the face of your buying audience (as it changes) and adding in material that caters to them'.

People complain about terrible writing in a lot of 'woke' content as if there is not terrible writing in the prior 'woke' content.

The largest benefactor of 'woke' writing for ~100 years of content were white males. Every geeky guy got a hot wife or GF. Every normal guy could beat up an army or aliens. All just woke pandering, and OK to do. Know what your audience wants and feed them that.

The only issue comes in is when the group that was pandered to for over 100 years cries about a new group be pandered to because suddenly they can see it, when they could not, when it was directed at them. So suddenly a 'woman beating up guys, in an action movie is too much and too woke and unbelievable... so give me back Cruise and Damon beating up armies of big buff dudes because that is so believable'.

Your argument dies a horrible death, maybe never even enjoyed a birth, when you look at number of viewers. Nobody is watching woke programmes. The audiences on Acolyte, Rings of Pander etc are dropping off a cliff. And that’s when they began with an enormous captive audience of fandom from the original IP

 

[Renard]

I thought it was just actually diverse and gives you options all over the place, but isn't really forceful with everything.

I've played until level 3-4 or something and you meet this one gay dude, you can add him to your party but you can also just choose to kill him instead. How is that woke?

Maybe there's actual woke stuff in there I don't know about but from I've heard it just give you a broad range of (sometimes crazy sexual) options. Still planning to buy it and play co-op with my buddy next year.

BG3 isn't woke. Woke is a specific brand of toxic identity politics that includes needless & illogical tokenism and obnoxious modern politics shoved into content it doesn't belong into. If anything BG3 is an example of how to make a fun inclusive game without trying to lecture the audience.

 

[SuperAlly]

The Critical Drinker, summarized

Some guy from Scotland really living rent free in your head

How sad

 

[SuperAlly]

It does make sense and I did, you described The Critical Drinker and others, good job. There's plenty of anti-woke grifters that fit your description to a T, thank you for the meaningful contribution to the thread

Someone who reviews film and Tv for a living doesn’t like a few crap things you do and that makes him an “anti woke grifter”. You need to get out the house more and a bit less internet. You’ll be healthier for it

 

[deviake]

I consider things to be woke mostly when it's that kind of diversity forced into settings where it doesn't belong.

Gay black spiderman and the 16th century queen of England being black, yeah that's woke. Having the ability to play a gay character or do weird sexual shit in a crazy fantasy setting I don't really consider to be woke. Progressive is a better term imo.

Maybe I'll play a gay dwarf with a huge hog who runs around naked half the time, the fuck do I care. In D:OS2 my buddy was an undead lizard woman named Reptillary Clinton.

I just play those kinda games to fuck around with my buddy and have fun, so if the storyline and gameplay is good I'll be having tons of fun.

BG3 isn't woke. Woke is a specific brand of toxic identity politics that includes needless & illogical tokenism and obnoxious modern politics shoved into content it doesn't belong into. If anything BG3 is an example of how to make a fun inclusive game without trying to lecture the audience.

What's woke about gay black Spiderman? The queen of England thing was a corny race swaps though.

So woke = tokenism? I can't keep up, it seems like everyone has a different definition. A lotta people just complain about diversity

 

[Poon Goon]

I don’t player hate, I just stay awake.

 

[SuperAlly]

There's also video essays breaking down his bullshit in detail while citing his own videos and the movies he's talking about as sources. He's a race/sex/etc baiter and turns everything into identity politics. So like... what're you even talking about? He obsessed with this shit

He turns everything into identity politics? I think Hollywood, Disney, Lucasfilm got there a long time before him

 

[Madmick]

He explains each example and for one even says, "this is why people will say it's not", if you're not gonna watch it I'm not gonna read your essay. I can add examples too, it's not hard. Woke is meaningless at this point cuz it means whatever meow. His point is that people ignore the successful "woke" stuff and only note the bad, which coincidentally is poorly written.

But what will happen is the goal posts will move. "Oh that's not woke because X", even if it has a diverse cast and political messaging.

Political messaging is all over and always has been.

Funnily, I've had conservative posters argue with me that it's not the messaging but how it's delivered... oh, so the movie or show has to be well written to be good and "woke" (whatever that means to whoever which he also covers in the video) doesn't matter, which is the fucking point of video?

Lulz.

So he concedes that he's selectively picking movies based on his personal arbitrary interpretation of a term that he doesn't even necessarily believe in; rather than setting an objective framework such as pointing to movies which have generated a substantial social media pushback surrounding their release with the #woke hashtag attached to the trending topic, or a large number of videos uploaded by the "grifters" he criticizes complaining about a certain movie. Either could be quantified.

Gotcha. So basically his video is meaningless, and you lack the constitution to pretend it is. You won't even defend his points, or address my own.

It's never been true that you go woke, you go broke.

The absurdity of it was always obvious when they constantly accuse Hollywood of being liberal and woke but Hollywood continues to profit and thrive.

If they were right, we'd be inundated with Gina Carano and Jim Cavaziel masterpieces instead...

Waiting for what? A 40-year domestic box office revenue low? Because that happened. Still hasn't recovered. Let's skip ahead to where you scapegoat COVID as an out for your ridiculous argument that could only have been made because you were too lazy, ignorant, and oblivious to box office proceeds to realize it walked itself off a cliff. Kind of a stupid argument to make since you're just gonna backpedal now, and whine about COVID, eh?

Then let's visit how even that isn't an out:

• For two decades straight from 1985 to 2004 the domestic box office grew every single year.
• In fact, from 1977 to 2013, the latter when the term woke first gained traction in online searches, it grew by an average of 21.2% every year.
• From 2013 to 2019, on the other hand, half of those six years it shrank rather than grew. Across those years, the average change was just +0.75% per year. That's unadjusted for inflation. If adjusted, Hollywood's revenues were diminishing.

And that last period is with the MCU carrying the industry. Generally speaking, this is not an IP associated with wokeism. That's why we tend to focus on the individual performances of movies characterized by "woke" programming. They don't do well. Generally, they're doing poorly, and they're alienating moviegoers.

 

[SuperAlly]

He politicizes everything he talks about.

Also, ain't no one defending shit like The Acolyte or Disney's other dog shit here.

As to your last statement, there's a litany of "woke" movies that made shit loads of money, many examples are given in the video

Usually piggy backing on the fame of an existing IP, before perverting the original IP completely. You get basically one or 2 of these weak projects taking advantage of the existing fan base, before they realise the new show is nothing like the original and the fans desert in droves. It’s why the sequel trilogy made a lot of money (piggybacking on the fandom of the original) but basically killed all future Star Wars projects as people know the game now

 

[deviake]

So he concedes that he's selectively picking movies based on his personal arbitrary interpretation of a term that he doesn't even necessarily believe in; rather than setting an objective framework such as pointing to movies which have generated a substantial social media pushback surrounding their release with the #woke hashtag attached to the trending topic, or a large number of videos uploaded by the "grifters" he criticizes complaining about a certain movie. Either could be quantified.

Gotcha. So basically his video is meaningless, and you lack the constitution to pretend it is. You won't even defend his points, or address my own.

Waiting for what? A 40-year domestic box office revenue low? Because that happened. Still hasn't recovered. Let's skip ahead to where you scapegoat COVID as an out for your ridiculous argument that could only have been made because you were too lazy, ignorant, and oblivious to box office proceeds to realize it walked itself off a cliff. Kind of a stupid argument to make since you're just gonna backpedal now, and whine about COVID, eh?

Then let's visit how even that isn't an out:

• For two decades straight from 1985 to 2004 the domestic box office grew every single year.
• In fact, from 1977 to 2013, when the term woke first gained traction in online searches, it grew by an average of 21.2% every year.
• From 2013 to 2019, on the other hand, half of those six years it shrank rather than grew. Across those years, the average change was just +0.75% per year. That's unadjusted for inflation. If adjusted, Hollywood's revenues were diminishing.

And that last period is with the MCU carrying the industry. Generally speaking, this is not an IP associated with wokeism. That's why we tend to focus on the individual performances of movies characterized by "woke" programming. They don't do well. Generally, they're doing poorly, and they're alienating moviegoers.

I skimmed and didn't see u define woke, not reading it, especially if you've not watched the vid

I'm done with people wasting my time with non serious replies

 

[Madmick]

I skimmed and didn't see u define woke, not reading it, especially if you've not watched the vid

I'm done with people wasting my time with non serious replies

Concession accepted.

 

[SuperAlly]

No, HE does not politicise everything, he just points it out which makes the left seriously butthurt as they don't like their overt propoganda being pointed out for what it is.

What's even more hilarious to watch than the billions of dollars going down the sink... are the leftist, activist game journalists, every time their woke slop fails miserably... and even more so when games developers that flatly refuse to push their bullshit are massive financial successes like Black Myth, Stellar Blade and Space Marine 2.

If there are all these successful businesses making so much money from their woke projects, why are they losing massive amounts of money and having their stock prices tumble into the gutter?

Hollywood lickspittle reporters “this is the gayest Star Wars ever”

Critical drinker “they seem to be more interested in promoting this show based on the sexuality of the characters than the quality of the show”

Deviant-e “the critical drinker is making this political “