Exposing the Grift: Go Woke Go Broke

[Hog-train]

Go talk like you do to Mick to any of the lefty mods in the WR. You'll be gone

Mick doesn't ban people for disagreeing with him. He just outright calls them stupid or retarded or whatever which is fine.

Paraphrased you a little but, but the big elephant in this particular room: "...just because it [is] bad... doesn't mean the wokeness didn't also contribute to its failure."

That's what they want to deny in here.

That's what the defenders of these things keep saying. "Oh it was just a bad game/show to begin with and all these chuds and neckbeards are just getting mad and blaming it on wokeness."

So correlation is not causation. But it sure seems like every single time there is a catastrophic failure for a game, there always seems to be this stupid woke shit like pronouns in it.

And every time there's a hit like the Black Wukong game or Stellar Blade, it has a complete absence of the woke politics bullshit.

 

[Hog-train]

The thing that's so annoying about the Ubisoft black Samurai thing is that it's so condescending. It's very reminiscent of white, super liberal hipsters that are originally from like the whitest parts of America, but are transplants to Brooklyn or San Francisco - and don't even have actual real black or minority friends. And then they annoyingly lecture everyone about race while ironically being low key racists themselves.

In the Assassin's Creed game, the African guy Yasuke has hip hop music in the background when he's fighting. Why TF is hip hop music there when this is feudal Japan in the 1500's and the guy is African African - not African-American. It's tonally deaf and low key, condescendingly racist. "Yea the guy's skin color is black, so let's put rap music on!" How retarded is that.

Then they emphatically state the Yasuke character was 100% a real Samurai when that is not remotely true. The only historical records show he was a retainer for Oda Nobunaga for 1 year and left with the Jesuits after he was killed. If he was actually in the Samurai class, he would have been forced to kill himself.

Then they literally put a symbol of the nuclear bomb that dropped on Nagasaki as well as moronic Chinese architecture in the game because "All Asians same."

Even the NY Times is getting in on this and there are several inaccuracies in the article.

It quotes a supposed Japanese "expert" and consultant Kazuma Hashimoto - this person is "surprise surprise" a trans activist and worked for Sweet Baby Inc.

Sweet Baby Inc is a DEI company that literally blackmails video game companies for their consultation services where they make changes to a game to make it more "inclusive." The fee is in the millions. If a game company says no, they get their contacts in video game journalism to do a hit job.

But this time, they angered people they can't shame with BS accusations of being bigoted and right wing. Actual Japanese people.

The Fight Over a Black Samurai in Assassin’s Creed Shadows

The video game franchise long emphasized its historical accuracy in settings such as Athens, Florence and London. Then details of its first foray to Japan were attacked online.

www.nytimes.com

 

[DoctorTaco]

It's very reminiscent of white, super liberal hipsters that are originally from like the whitest parts of America, but are transplants to Brooklyn or San Francisco - and don't even have actual real black or minority friends. And then they annoyingly lecture everyone about race while ironically being low key racists themselves.

I appreciate when people take the time to put these sort of details into their strawmen. Give them backstories, social circles, and secrets. Bravo sir

 

[deviake]

The thing that's so annoying about the Ubisoft black Samurai thing is that it's so condescending. It's very reminiscent of white, super liberal hipsters that are originally from like the whitest parts of America, but are transplants to Brooklyn or San Francisco - and don't even have actual real black or minority friends. And then they annoyingly lecture everyone about race while ironically being low key racists themselves.

In the Assassin's Creed game, the African guy Yasuke has hip hop music in the background when he's fighting. Why TF is hip hop music there when this is feudal Japan in the 1500's and the guy is African African - not African-American. It's tonally deaf and low key, condescendingly racist. "Yea the guy's skin color is black, so let's put rap music on!" How retarded is that.

Then they emphatically state the Yasuke character was 100% a real Samurai when that is not remotely true. The only historical records show he was a retainer for Oda Nobunaga for 1 year and left with the Jesuits after he was killed. If he was actually in the Samurai class, he would have been forced to kill himself.

Then they literally put a symbol of the nuclear bomb that dropped on Nagasaki as well as moronic Chinese architecture in the game because "All Asians same."

Even the NY Times is getting in on this and there are several inaccuracies in the article.

It quotes a supposed Japanese "expert" and consultant Kazuma Hashimoto - this person is "surprise surprise" a trans activist and worked for Sweet Baby Inc.

Sweet Baby Inc is a DEI company that literally blackmails video game companies for their consultation services where they make changes to a game to make it more "inclusive." The fee is in the millions. If a game company says no, they get their contacts in video game journalism to do a hit job.

But this time, they angered people they can't shame with BS accusations of being bigoted and right wing. Actual Japanese people.

The Fight Over a Black Samurai in Assassin’s Creed Shadows

The video game franchise long emphasized its historical accuracy in settings such as Athens, Florence and London. Then details of its first foray to Japan were attacked online.

www.nytimes.com

This article just makes the culture war bullshit around this game seem even more ridiculous. I read the apology too. The article mentions mistakes they've made before in their depictions of other settings.* The article also says the game was mostly received well in Japan and that a lot of the negative sentiment toward it was westerners writing comments in Japanese.** The apology mentions backlash over mistakes people have spotted in the promotional materials, i.e., not the finished product. Meow if the mistakes remain or there are others, that's a discussion for when players have access to the final product. It seems like every time someone posts a source from an actual news place and not Bill's twatter or Dave's YouTubes or whatever it just makes the outrage look sillier.

Yu Hirayama, a historian at the Japan University of Health Sciences who specializes in the Sengoku period, said that Yasuke’s samurai status was not in question. “There are very few historical documents about him, but there’s no doubt that he was a ‘samurai’ who served Nobunaga,” Hirayama wrote on social media.
He was referring to Oda Nobunaga, a warrior and feudal lord who helped unify Japan and provided Yasuke with a house, stipend and sword. According to limited historical records, Yasuke arrived in Japan under the service of a Jesuit priest and was eventually summoned by Nobunaga. Nobunaga elevated Yasuke’s status for unknown reasons, and little is certain about what happened as his benefactor’s grip on power loosened. Some records indicate that Yasuke was eventually returned under the custody of Jesuits.
Historians contracted by Ubisoft, Côté said, work with translators on primary documents to create an experience that is as authentic as possible. “Our source material is not Wikipedia,” he said. But that authenticity also needs to blend into a fanciful game world where characters might leap off buildings into leaf piles unscathed or encounter mythological creatures in the woods.

Again, Yasuke has been in Japanese games before this.

I think you need to step outta the bubble bud. You guys sound weird to people who don't regularly consume outrage media.


*Eagle-eyed fans of the franchise have identified historical inaccuracies before, like the wooden churches in Assassin’s Creed Valhalla that were actually from around 12th-century Norway but appeared in the game’s version of ninth-century Viking England.

**Kazuma Hashimoto, a Japanese consultant and translator in the video game industry, said the reception of Assassin’s Creed Shadows was mostly positive in Japan. “It was people in the West who were upset with seeing Yasuke as a samurai,” he said, explaining that many of the negative online comments written in Japanese appeared to have been roughly translated from English.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

This article just makes the culture war bullshit around this game seem even more ridiculous. I read the apology too. The article mentions mistakes they've made before in their depictions of other settings.* The article also says the game was mostly received well in Japan and that a lot of the negative sentiment toward it was westerners writing comments in Japanese.** The apology mentions backlash over mistakes people have spotted in the promotional materials, i.e., not the finished product. Meow if the mistakes remain or there are others, that's a discussion for when players have access to the final product. It seems like every time someone posts a source from an actual news place and not Bill's twatter or Dave's YouTubes or whatever it just makes the outrage look sillier.

Yu Hirayama, a historian at the Japan University of Health Sciences who specializes in the Sengoku period, said that Yasuke’s samurai status was not in question. “There are very few historical documents about him, but there’s no doubt that he was a ‘samurai’ who served Nobunaga,” Hirayama wrote on social media.
He was referring to Oda Nobunaga, a warrior and feudal lord who helped unify Japan and provided Yasuke with a house, stipend and sword. According to limited historical records, Yasuke arrived in Japan under the service of a Jesuit priest and was eventually summoned by Nobunaga. Nobunaga elevated Yasuke’s status for unknown reasons, and little is certain about what happened as his benefactor’s grip on power loosened. Some records indicate that Yasuke was eventually returned under the custody of Jesuits.
Historians contracted by Ubisoft, Côté said, work with translators on primary documents to create an experience that is as authentic as possible. “Our source material is not Wikipedia,” he said. But that authenticity also needs to blend into a fanciful game world where characters might leap off buildings into leaf piles unscathed or encounter mythological creatures in the woods.

Again, Yasuke has been in Japanese games before this.

I think you need to step outta the bubble bud. You guys sound weird to people who don't regularly consume outrage media.


*Eagle-eyed fans of the franchise have identified historical inaccuracies before, like the wooden churches in Assassin’s Creed Valhalla that were actually from around 12th-century Norway but appeared in the game’s version of ninth-century Viking England.

**Kazuma Hashimoto, a Japanese consultant and translator in the video game industry, said the reception of Assassin’s Creed Shadows was mostly positive in Japan. “It was people in the West who were upset with seeing Yasuke as a samurai,” he said, explaining that many of the negative online comments written in Japanese appeared to have been roughly translated from English.

that' historian is bulshitting with the "there is no question he wasn't a samurai" part. fuck yeah there's questions. all he did in his explanation was mention that Nobunaga gave that guy a house a sword and a stipend. he gave the same, as Toranaga, to Anjin in Shogun, and that guy was never a samurai. it's a bullshit conclusion that comes from his interpretation. it not FACT for one second.

and that kazuma guy you quoted last, check out his articles - he writes only culture war horseshit. colonialism in japan, how gay are some game characters, etc.

 

[deviake]

that' historian is bulshitting with the "there is no question he wasn't a samurai" part. fuck yeah there's questions. all he did in his explanation was mention that Nobunaga gave that guy a house a sword and a stipend. he gave the same, as Toranaga, to Anjin in Shogun, and that guy was never a samurai. it's a bullshit conclusion that comes from his interpretation. it not FACT for one second.

and that kazuma guy you quoted last, check out his articles - he writes only culture war horseshit. colonialism in japan, how gay are some game characters, etc.

To the first point, no one has said it's fact and they're obviously taking liberties; they're fantasy games.

Second, okay. Does that change anything?

 

[Fox by the Sea]

To the first point, no one has said it's fact and they're obviously taking liberties; they're fantasy games.

you quoted someone saying "there's no question". that's the definition og saying something is a fact. Don't you understand how words work?

Second, okay. Does that change anything?

Yeah, it does. It makes people suspicious of what you quote as support for your posts.

 

[deviake]

you quoted someone saying "there's no question". that's the definition og saying something is a fact. Don't you understand how words work?

Yeah, it does. It makes people suspicious of what you quote as support for your posts.

My apologies, you're right. From what I understand of the history that was his title/standing based on what historians know but much of his history is in question, got my wires crossed.

Second, I don't think it does, not to the overall point that he existed and served a lord. Plus, Japanese games have already featured Yasuke. You guys are just nuance trolling to justify your position.

Hey wait, you're the one I said engaged in what, "bitch behavior" (and you say this on the internet from a different country, lol) or something like that cuz I blocked a dude because I'm too fragile to dealing with other's opinions right? Weird that he's the only one I've blocked and I did so before this thread. Coincidentally, he's also the only one who spams, wonder if there's a pattern there

Edit: you're the one that* said I engaged

 

[Fox by the Sea]

Hey wait, you're the one I said engaged in what, "bitch behavior" (and you say this on the internet from a different country, lol) or something like that cuz I blocked a dude because I'm too fragile to dealing with others' opinions right? Weird that he's the only one I've blocked and I did so before this thread. Coincidentally, he's also the only one who spams, wonder if there's a pattern there

i have no recollection of this.

 

[deviake]

i have no recollection of this.

If all of your interactions with me are going to be trying to get a rise out of me I'll eventually stop responding altogether

 

[Fox by the Sea]

If all of your interactions with me are going to be trying to get a rise out of me I'll eventually stop responding altogether

umm...ok.

 

[deviake]

umm...ok.

You 100% said that. You have memory issues or you're trolling. You've already trolled me before, which is fine, but if all you're going to do is troll I'll grow bored and just not feed you

 

[Fox by the Sea]

You 100% said that. You have memory issues or you're trolling. You've already trolled me before, which is fine, but if all you're going to do is troll I'll grow bored and just not feed you

point of interest - you're not supposed to say "you're trolling me" even if it's what's happening. it just encourages the troll to troll some more because trolls want attention. for some reason, when i replied with "umm..ok", for me that was the end of the interaction. if i was that big of a troll, i would have riled you up more. but it was YOU who came back with more stuff like "and if this happens than that will happen!!!" like that would make any difference to me.

very weird.

 

[deviake]

point of interest - you're not supposed to say "you're trolling me" even if it's what's happening. it just encourages the troll to troll some more because trolls want attention. for some reason, when i replied with "umm..ok", for me that was the end of the interaction. if i was that big of a troll, i would have riled you up more. but it was YOU who came back with more stuff like "and if this happens than that will happen!!!" like that would make any difference to me.

very weird.

Nah I'm just being direct because I don't care and if someone exclusively interacts with me to troll (trolling can be fun but gets old if it's all the person does) then I'll be straight up and scroll past their posts. Being bigger troll doesn't rile me up at all, cuz A)it's the internet and B)if all you do is troll then I've no reason to care about anything you say and there's nothing you can do at that point unless you spam reply, but then I'll just block you. Your problem isn't trolling, it's that you're lame and boring

 

[Fox by the Sea]

you're trolling

Your problem isn't trolling

 

[deviake]

if someone exclusively interacts with me to troll (trolling can be fun but gets old if it's all the person does)

 

[SuperAlly]

More examples of DEI being your only or main priority not being successful

 

[SuperAlly]

Post in thread 'JOKER: FOLIE A DEUX (Dragonlord's Review - "Bombs...")'
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...agonlords-review-bombs.4341759/post-174113445

 

[SuperAlly]

 

[SuperAlly]