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Sure. I can't find anything there or elsewhere indicating it's true though, which makes me more interested in where this "information" actually came from.
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Sure. I can't find anything there or elsewhere indicating it's true though, which makes me more interested in where this "information" actually came from.
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How so? I posted videos are three fairly big YouTubers whining about wokeness and degeneracy. This was only posted because people refused to acknowledge that these grifters will go after everything. They only shut up when it’s clear the game was successful. Some people are just too stubborn to change their mind even when presented with evidence. Now if you wanted to say the these opinions were in the minority then sure but the fact is there were plenty of grifters hating on BG3 prerelease
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Well I give him credit for that. I actually said as much in the past. Doesn’t change the fact that he has problems ever changing his mind when presented with info that contradicts what he says. The fact is people were whining about BG3 prior to release. The cowards shy away when it was successful. The opposite is when a game like concord fails then they claim victory. So basically everyone forgets when they get it wrong and remembers when they were supposedly right. I just like to remind people that these idiots are often wrong. Also who would ban people for what I said? That would be over the top.
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I didn't pay attention to Concord other than noticing it was another shooter flop in Sony's library. They've always struggled there, but they're racking up way more wins than losses, overall, and even among shooters, they've had the biggest hit in the past few years as far as new IPs that weren't already part of the established live-service guard in Helldivers 2. It's virtually impossible for anybody new to break into that market. Fortnite is just devouring everything.
I don't recall Concord generating a huge interest prior to launch in the first place, but apparently I wasn't paying attention. There is this review on YouTube with 310K views right after it released that criticized it based on wokeness. That makes it the third most watched pure review video I can find (631K was the most watched review after gaming megainfluencers Penguin's 2m live-play review):
Meanwhile, Asmongold has been releasing a lot of content from his streams covering this debacle. Apparently Sony squandered $400m on this game, and it died in the crib. Sony even locked discussion because people were voicing anti-woke negativity for why they didn't want to play the game. Apparently one of the devs called gamers criticizing the game "talentless freaks" because there was a pronounced anti-woke pushback that was part of the larger dissatisfaction with the game.
There's a reddit thread that generated over 200 comments from the major /videogames subreddit, and yet it has 0 net upvotes. So I'm guessing that most disagreed with its sentiment that the game didn't flop because it was woke. As the top comment points out, just because it was a bad game doesn't mean the wokeness didn't also contribute to its failure.
One of the major criticisms was that the game declared the weirdo pronouns of its characters on the screen. And there was already discussion of this before the game where woke defenders acknowledged this constituted the negativity that was trending about the game before it released.
Even the developers were aware they made a conscious choice to push this, and that it obviously undermined any chance they had at success.
‘Concord’ Developer Addresses Massive Backlash To Game After It Was Revealed It Pushes Pronoun Nonsense And Features DEI Character Designs
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I might have misremembered something i read on KotakuinAction.
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Kotaku?
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The parent media company to which the subreddit you're mentioning is devoted to covering? How are you confused?
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They let a lot go. More than they used to (mods generally). That said, Mickelson is a certainly a good sport in my experience, credit where it's due.
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Nah, i don’t think so. I’ve beefed with Islam a while back and no yellows given. The ones I’ve seen banned are the ones saying the p or g word
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Yeah, that was my point.
Look at how little actual substance there is to that "wokeness". Pronouns, fat characters of diverse ethnic backgrounds and the politics of some of the developers. That's about as token as it gets if the idea is to push a political agenda. It doesn't really articulate anything.
You can hardly call it politically preachy, because it doesn't really have anything to say.
Which isn't surprising, it's a hero shooter.
Of course people are keen to dance on it's grave because it's "woke" and it epitomises the norm for the sort of corporate mush Sony has put out while attempting to make everything live service.
But the actual political messaging involved is essentially nothing.
Compare that to how derivative it is. It's clear that back when they started development they looked at what was doing well and decided to copy it. Hence the guardians of the galaxy and overwatch combination. Along with what looks like a home brand Hellboy.
Look at how much Overwatch and guardians of the galaxy dropped off though by the time this was released, and the fact that they were trying to ask $40USD for this late to the party, slow, ugly knockoff.
Because there's no substantial messaging to speak of, they could have removed all traces of woke without any substantial change to the game, and it would barely have changed anything but the amount of coverage it got due to the "woke" culture war narrative.
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Well Ubisoft stocks havent been looking good this past week.
I do believe Ubisoft shouldn't have chosen a black character to be the main character as the main protagonist.
If anything when it comes to AC Shadows they should have done the story differently.
I do believe Ubisoft shouldn't have chosen a black character to be the main character as the main protagonist.
If anything when it comes to AC Shadows they should have done the story differently.
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What tiny percent of society would that be. What was political or pandering about the Acolyte.
The Acolyte is highlighting actors who so often go overlooked, but a small and very loud group of viewers have found an issue with this. These were make believe characters but somehow that was pushed as wokeness. Outside of the little girls being black, what else would be this wokeness. What was woke about the casting ?
The problem we see today is that this call of wokeness is many times clouded in race and bigotry. What you say as pandering maybe a studio wanting a different vibe to a movie.
I remember the issue with John Leguizamo when he was complaining about white actors and how they should not play hispanic roles. He mentioned that Castro should be played by a hispanic actor because Fidel Castro was hispanic but the role was going to a white actor (James Franco). I remember reading on yahoo and the media saying that is what actors do, and that acting is make believe and good actors play those roles. Yet the minute, this was done by a black actor in some movie, this was said to be a problem and woke. But when Franco played a hispanic in Castro it was not woke.
So what makes it woke.
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No, that's the issue.
The politics of the developers is what is being signaled with these choices, it's what is being pushed, and gamers are wise to it. "Pronouns" aren't just words. It signals support for an entire slate of idiotic, ascientific nonsense pushed by the furthest wing of the progressive left. It's most closely associated with aggressive pro-transgender & other LGBT policies, this notion that gender isn't real, and more broadly, it's associated with DEI initiatives. The application of these theories put into action is affirmative action. This is a real threat, a real problem, with material consequences, and the goal of those who support these policies is discrimination in hiring, promotions, race-based welfare programs, college admissions programs, policing strategies, and choices of what to fund with public budgets derived from taxpayer funding.
The entire reason Jordan Peterson rose to prominence, if you'll recall, is that Canadian universities were beginning to target professors who refused to accede to someone else's choice of gender pronouns. The progressive left wanted to make it mandatory to respect these imaginary pronouns. They wanted those who didn't respect this to be fired, or otherwise harassed by HR departments. And it was working. Finally people said enough is enough. As Dave Chappelle said so eloquently, I don't care if you're delusional. The only thing that concerns me is to what extent am I expected to participate in your delusion?
And yes, it funnels all the way down, to the most trivial aspects, to where suddenly gamers are being deprived of the explicit choice of gender in character creation screens. No, they want to replace that with "body types". It's ridiculous. They've gone further, still. Corporations like Twitch have made it so that not respecting someone's choice of gender pronoun may be a bannable offense. They're crafting this crap into "hate and harassment" policies across the industry. It affects everyone from the employee in the cubicle to the gamer on a keyboard or controller at home.
And that's what gamers caught onto with Ubisoft. That's why they're so hostile. Ubisoft, in recently delaying that new Assassin's Creed: Shadows game, went out of their way to assert they weren't pushing this exact political ethos with the game. They aren't pushing DEI: Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion. Swearsies. The CEO said so:
Yet, as many cynical gamers pointed out, to the contrary, Ubisoft maintains a public statement at their website steeped in the language of DEI political advocates.
Diversity, Inclusion and Accessibility | Ubisoft
Learn more about how we are putting D&I at the heart of everything we do with a focus on colleagues, content, culture and community.
www.ubisoft.com
Let's not play stupid. That's a DEI VP of the company. Notice the language is relentlessly repeated:
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Develop at Ubisoft
www.ubisoft.com
For some reason, they think gamers are stupid. They think they can sneak this crap by. As they've been learning, at a serious detriment to their bottom lines, gamers are not.
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Paraphrased you a little bit, but the big elephant in this particular room: "...just because it [is] bad... doesn't mean the wokeness didn't also contribute to its failure."
That's what they want to deny in here.
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TV, movies and I assume games were better when this was trueNo, that's the issue.
The politics of the developers is what is being signaled with these choices, it's what is being pushed, and gamers are wise to it. "Pronouns" aren't just words. It signals support for an entire slate of idiotic, ascientific nonsense pushed by the furthest wing of the progressive left. It's most closely associated with aggressive pro-transgender & other LGBT policies, this notion that gender isn't real, and more broadly, it's associated with DEI initiatives. The application of these theories put into action is affirmative action. This is a real threat, a real problem, with material consequences, and the goal of those who support these policies is discrimination in hiring, promotions, race-based welfare programs, college admissions programs, policing strategies, and choices of what to fund with public budgets derived from taxpayer funding.
The entire reason Jordan Peterson rose to prominence, if you'll recall, is that Canadian universities were beginning to target professors who refused to accede to someone else's choice of gender pronouns. The progressive left wanted to make it mandatory to respect these imaginary pronouns. They wanted those who didn't respect this to be fired, or otherwise harassed by HR departments. And it was working. Finally people said enough is enough. As Dave Chappelle said so eloquently, I don't care if you're delusional. The only thing that concerns me is to what extent am I expected to participate in your delusion?
And yes, it funnels all the way down, to the most trivial aspects, to where suddenly gamers are being deprived of the explicit choice of gender in character creation screens. No, they want to replace that with "body types". It's ridiculous. They've gone further, still. Corporations like Twitch have made it so that not respecting someone's choice of gender pronoun may be a bannable offense. They're crafting this crap into "hate and harassment" policies across the industry. It affects everyone from the employee in the cubicle to the gamer on a keyboard or controller at home.
And that's what gamers caught onto with Ubisoft. That's why they're so hostile. Ubisoft, in recently delaying that new Assassin's Creed: Shadows game, went out of their way to assert they weren't pushing this exact political ethos with the game. They aren't pushing DEI: Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion. Swearsies. The CEO said so:
Yet, as many cynical gamers pointed out, to the contrary, Ubisoft maintains a public statement at their website steeped in the language of DEI political advocates.
Diversity, Inclusion and Accessibility | Ubisoft
Learn more about how we are putting D&I at the heart of everything we do with a focus on colleagues, content, culture and community.www.ubisoft.com
Let's not play stupid. That's a DEI VP of the company. Notice the language is relentlessly repeated:
Separately:
Develop at Ubisoft
www.ubisoft.com
For some reason, they think gamers are stupid. They think they can sneak this crap by. As they've been learning, at a serious detriment to their bottom lines, gamers are not.
"...we are an entertainment-first company..."
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No, that's the issue.
The politics of the developers is what is being signaled with these choices, it's what is being pushed, and gamers are wise to it. "Pronouns" aren't just words. It signals support for an entire slate of idiotic, ascientific nonsense pushed by the furthest wing of the progressive left. It's most closely associated with aggressive pro-transgender & other LGBT policies, this notion that gender isn't real, and more broadly, it's associated with DEI initiatives. The application of these theories put into action is affirmative action. This is a real threat, a real problem, with material consequences, and the goal of those who support these policies is discrimination in hiring, promotions, race-based welfare programs, college admissions programs, policing strategies, and choices of what to fund with public budgets derived from taxpayer funding.
The entire reason Jordan Peterson rose to prominence, if you'll recall, is that Canadian universities were beginning to target professors who refused to accede to someone else's choice of gender pronouns. The progressive left wanted to make it mandatory to respect these imaginary pronouns. They wanted those who didn't respect this to be fired, or otherwise harassed by HR departments. And it was working. Finally people said enough is enough. As Dave Chappelle said so eloquently, I don't care if you're delusional. The only thing that concerns me is to what extent am I expected to participate in your delusion?
And yes, it funnels all the way down, to the most trivial aspects, to where suddenly gamers are being deprived of the explicit choice of gender in character creation screens. No, they want to replace that with "body types". It's ridiculous. They've gone further, still. Corporations like Twitch have made it so that not respecting someone's choice of gender pronoun may be a bannable offense. They're crafting this crap into "hate and harassment" policies across the industry. It affects everyone from the employee in the cubicle to the gamer on a keyboard or controller at home.
And that's what gamers caught onto with Ubisoft. That's why they're so hostile. Ubisoft, in recently delaying that new Assassin's Creed: Shadows game, went out of their way to assert they weren't pushing this exact political ethos with the game. They aren't pushing DEI: Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion. Swearsies. The CEO said so:
Yet, as many cynical gamers pointed out, to the contrary, Ubisoft maintains a public statement at their website steeped in the language of DEI political advocates.
Diversity, Inclusion and Accessibility | Ubisoft
Learn more about how we are putting D&I at the heart of everything we do with a focus on colleagues, content, culture and community.www.ubisoft.com
Let's not play stupid. That's a DEI VP of the company. Notice the language is relentlessly repeated:
Separately:
Develop at Ubisoft
www.ubisoft.com
For some reason, they think gamers are stupid. They think they can sneak this crap by. As they've been learning, at a serious detriment to their bottom lines, gamers are not.
All you're telling me here is that you've fully bought into your culture war.
"Signals" and symbolism.
From outside that bubble it just looks like meaningless nonsense.
It's pronouns and ugly characters in a derivative hero shooter with no redeeming features, which failed as expected.
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