Every other weekend in jail for Cheerleader guilty of rape.

[Cubo de Sangre]

1. Look, I'm not interested in having this nit picky back and forth with you over semantics

2. I'm against men and woman being treated differently under law. You apparently have no problem with it. Do you take issue with men having sex with teen boys?

1. If asking what you meant is nit-picky then maybe you don't know what you're talking about.

2. I applaud you for your idealism and I'm happy to support your extremism in the face of human history. I'm all for drafting women the same as men, but I"m not going to propose it. I'm all for allowing young girls to fuck whoever they want, but I'm not going to propose it.

Unfortunately we seem to all have to take other people's views into consideration when it comes to the law. But maybe this is why sentencing allows for leeway. HS boys banging their teacher is a wet dream so I don't believe in much of any punishment for a girl fucking a boy under age 18. Real men (by conventional standards) pat that kid on the back, they don't ask if he needs a shrink.

Good point touching on the other side of the coin. When the older person is a man I don't see any difference in terms of consent. When it comes to a jury deciding shit though it factors in that a man can overpower a young man and most likely a woman can not. If someone fucks because they weight some benefits mentally and go along with it I call that a learning experience. If you're physically coerced then that warrants legal scrutiny.

Did you read that wiki-link bro? Now it's your turn. Why, in so many instances, is it legal for 14 year olds to have sex with someone who is 16 but not 19?

 

[oleDirtyBast4rd]

1. If asking what you meant is nit-picky then maybe you don't know what you're talking about.

2. I applaud you for your idealism and I'm happy to support your extremism in the face of human history. I'm all for drafting women the same as men, but I"m not going to propose it. I'm all for allowing young girls to fuck whoever they want, but I'm not going to propose it.

Unfortunately we seem to all have to take other people's views into consideration when it comes to the law. But maybe this is why sentencing allows for leeway. HS boys banging their teacher is a wet dream so I don't believe in much of any punishment for a girl fucking a boy under age 18. Real men (by conventional standards) pat that kid on the back, they don't ask if he needs a shrink.

Good point touching on the other side of the coin. When the older person is a man I don't see any difference in terms of consent. When it comes to a jury deciding shit though it factors in that a man can overpower a young man and most likely a woman can not. If someone fucks because they weight some benefits mentally and go along with it I call that a learning experience. If you're physically coerced then that warrants legal scrutiny.

Did you read that wiki-link bro? Now it's your turn. Why, in so many instances, is it legal for 14 year olds to have sex with someone who is 16 but not 19?

1. Forgive me I thought you were being purposefully ignorant to what I was saying. Is there a term for adults who have sex with young teens?

I read the link and the only honest answer I can provide is that they are within the same peer group

 

[wlu29]

Women can not rape men. ....plain and simple

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

1. Forgive me I thought you were being purposefully ignorant to what I was saying. Is there a term for adults who have sex with young teens?

No worries. Message-boarding is a constrained medium. I'm happy to extend to you the benefit of any doubt in the future.

My understanding is pedophile is pre-pubescent attraction, which I think we all agree is different than jerking it to...

I read the link and the only honest answer I can provide is that they are within the same peer group

Agreed. But then I wonder how that helps make for a better/worse experience than if it were with someone a little more seasoned.

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

Women can not rape men. ....plain and simple

If putting out avoids this fate I'm gonna do it, all the while considering it non-consensual. Just sayin'.

Spoiler

 

[Thames]

So 2 years probation, with the threat of 13 years in jail?

The judge sentenced Shattuck to 15 years in prison — the maximum sentence for the charges — with all but two years suspended. The two years are to be served as probation, with the alternating weekends in the Delaware facility. She also will be required to pay more than $10,000 in restitution.

"[The judge] is punishing her … while at the same time not punishing her children," he said. Shattuck's children range in age from 12 to 16.

Auch..
Must be really pleasant for her children to watch this case unfold.

He said Shattuck reached out to his son through her own son with the message "Call my mom. She thinks you're hot."

I hope that is not true.

It feels a bit weird, cases like this. She clearly has mental issues.
But 15 year old's are fit for sexual relationships. Though I do agree that it's most healthy if they have those relationships with people their own age.

But since she didn't have an authority role over him or anything, I can't really see the great harm. The father crying "rape" is just pathetic imo.
But then again, I live in a country where all of this wouldn't even be illegal. So what do I know.

 

[wlu29]

See you are ignoring that maybe he was coerced or that in order to 'fit' in with masculine culture he felt compelled to finish in her mouth. You don't know how this kid truly feels.

And what is most disgusting is the people in here DEFENDING the hypocrisy.

Are you serious?

 

[PrinceOfPain]

This is men's fault. We're oversensitive and easily manipulated when it comes to women having sex.

 

[oldshadow]

Women can not rape men. ....plain and simple

See statutory rape.

So 2 years probation, with the threat of 13 years in jail?




Auch..
Must be really pleasant for her children to watch this case unfold.



I hope that is not true.

It feels a bit weird, cases like this. She clearly has mental issues.
But 15 year old's are fit for sexual relationships. Though I do agree that it's most healthy if they have those relationships with people their own age.

But since she didn't have an authority role over him or anything, I can't really see the great harm. The father crying "rape" is just pathetic imo.
But then again, I live in a country where all of this wouldn't even be illegal. So what do I know.

See above.

If the 15 year old was a female would you feel the same?

 

[PrinceOfPain]

when people on here stop frequenting milf porn websites is when I shed a tear for unfair treatment of female 'pedophile' offenders

This is stupid.

 

[cooks1]

A large reason for this hypocrisy is other men. Men who are upset they didn't get laid when young or something or secretly crave young vagina but deny it.

Look no further than this own forum to find posters who have daughters who would cheer with sadist joy at the thought of sending a way some 20 year old let alone a 48 year old to prison for decades all for consensual sex with his sexual daughter. These walking hypocrites like to PRETEND that their daughters aren't sexual or that certain sexual acts with men or multiple men are 'above' their precious little daughter.

Oh how false they are. It is patriarchal society which creates a lot of this.

Oh and btw I am not a social justice warrior I am just speaking the truth. Men do NOT like a loss of power but it is this very same constant crave for power and cyclical cycle of needing to feel 'masculine' which encourages the phenomenon of empty 'religious' men and or walking hypocrites. Look no further than your own churches to see truly broken men masquerading with masks trying to deny the inner warrior/beast which craves to be let out!

Get off your soapbox dude. And read a fucking history book while you are at it. The US and the west in general have the least patriarchal societies in the world, in the history of the world. And they are getting even less patriarchal with every passing generation. Some might even suggest we are beginning to hit a point of diminishing returns.

Parents are supposed to protect their children.

We don't live in the 1800's anymore, where farmers needed to take a 14 year old bride against her will to spawn a dozen child laborers to run the place. And most of the people on the forum do not live in places where fathers are bartering their 11 year old daughters off for a negotiated number of goats.

We are supposed to look out for them. And we are supposed to be watchful and protective when they have grown boobies, have hair on their vaginas, and their physical appearance gives men erections, but they are not quite mentally or emotionally ready for a sexual relationship.

As to your menstruation about the fathers on the forum discussing what sort of gruesome fate should befall a 20 or 48 year old man that fucks their 15 year old daughter, get over it. It's perfectly natural. Everyone takes things more personally when they are more personal.

 

[PrinceOfPain]

Sex for women, particular younger girls, is as much about an emotional connection as it is physical. Sex for boys is primarily satisfying horny cravings and going through a rite of passage. This is not a double standard but a different standard. How many 15 year old guys are going to be all fucked up later in life because they banged their hot 30 year old math teacher? But I bet you almost all 15 year old girls will have self-esteem and trust issues.

Most of it is how we are socialized but a decent portion of it also is that sex to women and men is not the same. Yes women love sex too but there is often much deeper things going on with them at the same time when it involves sex. Particularly at younger ages. These boys are not victims for the most part. And some of the girls probably aren't either. The sentencing should be based primarily on the amount of coercion and psychological damage after as assessed by a shrink. Don't think for a second the younger person can't be the predator either.

Do you have a source?

I think it comes down to individual experience, but I just cannot agree with any of this on the face of it, because of how much it diverges from my own experiences.
I was in my twenties before I first initiated a sexual relationship. Prior to that, every sexual experience I'd had was initiated by the woman/girl. A friend's 14 year-old sister once, very aggressively, tried to hook up when I was in my late teens/early twenties.

I recently met a guy in a boot camp type scenario. A young guy, 18 or 19. We all got into a discussion about the oldest woman any of us had slept with, and apparently when he was 17 he'd had sex with a 52 year-old that he met when he was drunk at a club.
It's hard to gauge someone's mental state from a conversation like that, but he definitely expressed revulsion with himself at the thought of what he'd done. And he wasn't shy (nor particularly whimsical) about his descriptions of having felt violated.

Women are not sexually delicate simply by virtue of their being women. Some are, some are not.

 

[cooks1]

Do you have a source?

I think it comes down to individual experience, but I just cannot agree with any of this on the face of it, because of how much it diverges from my own experiences.
I was in my twenties before I first initiated a sexual relationship. Prior to that, every sexual experience I'd had was initiated by the woman/girl. A friend's 14 year-old sister once, very aggressively, tried to hook up when I was in my late teens/early twenties.

I recently met a guy in a boot camp type scenario. A young guy, 18 or 19. We all got into a discussion about the oldest woman any of us had slept with, and apparently when he was 17 he'd had sex with a 52 year-old that he met when he was drunk at a club.
It's hard to gauge someone's mental state from a conversation like that, but he definitely expressed revulsion with himself at the thought of what he'd done. And he wasn't shy (nor particularly whimsical) about his descriptions of having felt violated.

Women are not sexually delicate simply by virtue of their being women. Some are, some are not.

Agree for the most part. But bear in mind that just because a young girl might be sexually assertive does not mean she is doing it just for the fun of it. It is often the attention and love they are trying to access even though they are attempting to do so through sexual aggression.

It's no accident that girls from broken or abusive homes are more promiscuous. Studies abound that confirm that. Even girls from divorced but otherwise functional homes are more promiscuous. PROVEN.

In fact, there is increasing consensus in the medical community that there is a physical, chemical link between girls entering puberty earlier when there is no biological father, or even a sexually mature brother, in the household. Some old school Darwinian pheremone shit. Without the biological fathers pheromones around to communicate otherwise, their primitive brains tell their bodies to grow boobies and bush.

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/201709.php

Add in the mental anguish and need for love and attention to a body physically developed to get attention at a young age, and you have bad ju-ju my friend.

 

[wlu29]

See statutory rape.



See above.

If the 15 year old was a female would you feel the same?

that act is more damaging to a 15 year old girl's psychological state

it would not have a negative lasting impact on a 15 year old guy

 

[PrinceOfPain]

Agree for the most part. But bear in mind that just because a young girl might be sexually assertive does not mean she is doing it just for the fun of it. It is often the attention and love they are trying to access even though they are attempting to do so through sexual aggression.

It's no accident that girls from broken or abusive homes are more promiscuous. Studies abound that confirm that. Even girls from divorced but otherwise functional homes are more promiscuous. PROVEN.

In fact, there is increasing consensus in the medical community that there is a physical, chemical link between girls entering puberty earlier when there is no biological father, or even a sexually mature brother, in the household. Some old school Darwinian pheremone shit. Without the biological fathers pheromones around to communicate otherwise, their primitive brains tell their bodies to grow boobies and bush.

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/201709.php

Add in the mental anguish and need for love and attention to a body physically developed to get attention at a young age, and you have bad ju-ju my friend.

Oh, for sure.
The 14 year-old I mentioned was definitely from a messed-up home environment, and while her father wasn't absent, he was a drugged-out loser who may as well have been. Her story, unfortunately, gets a lot darker than trying to hook up with an older guy, so she was probably a bad mention.

My biggest problem, I guess, is the double-standard, not when acting on differences between the sexes, but when differences are assumed rather than proven.
How many studies have been done on the sexual preparedness, for example, of boys in fatherless/motherless homes?
Since studies have apparently proven that girls mature earlier than boys, do laws dealing with statutory rape reflect that?

Honestly, I am pretty uneducated in this area, but, while anecdotal evidence is not ideal, when my personal experiences clash this badly with the popular narrative I can't help but be skeptical.

 

[InvestigatorIL]

Women have it hard in this world. Let them have their female privilege

 

[panamaican]

I agree with SouthoftheAndes - if people want to complain about the inequality of the system then they need to stop the inequality of how they look at it.

Plenty of guys dismiss the idea that 15 year old having sex wth an older woman is sexual assault. You see it all of the time when these people say how much they wish it had been them or ask where this woman was when they were 15 or something similar. Clearly, they don't see the actions as predatory or criminal - so why are they upset that the system reflects that mindset?

The other bit of hypocrisy is that people keep saying lesser sentences for victimless crimes. Many people imply that the boy actually received a benefit from this woman's sexual advances. Is that not a victimless crime? Shouldn't we applaud the court's restraint?

But, as noted, turn the genders around and people suddenly expect the adult to get violently raped in jail for abusing his position of power. These cases are just opportunities for some men to play the victim.

 

[panamaican]

that act is more damaging to a 15 year old girl's psychological state

it would not have a negative lasting impact on a 15 year old guy

This is a perfect example of the double standard in effect. If you're gong to say the act is more damaging to a girl then you should be okay with the penalty being less when the victim is a boy.

Demanding that the adult woman get penalized the same as an adult male when people don't think it's the same crime lacks logical consistency.

 

[BVG]

It's all about the act itself.

The guy has to get hard to make penile penetration even possible. Unless you are shooting that jellaton into your dick the same as porn stars do to insure you are getting hard...you are not going to be able to get "raped" by an attractive older woman unless some part of your body is mentally in the game.

And then the act itself is more intrusive to a woman than a man.

the penis going INTO the vagina...the man going INTO the woman. That act is a far different experience when you compare the sex. It's not the same experience at all and thinking it is is ignorant.

If the boy was raped, it would be more so along the lines of she stuck something unwanted into him. Or touched him in naughty places...it's not getting him sexually aroused and then willingly letting him put his dick in her mouth until completion TWICE.

He could have so easily gotten out of that situation by simply stepping backwards. Hell even if she stuck a GUN to his head, he wouldn't have gotten hard, he'd be so scared from the gun.

So no. I don't put this situation along the same lines as a man forcing himself on a teen aged girl. Because he can penetrate her without her being in the mood. The act itself is what makes this shit so radically different depending on the sex.

That's just logic.

 

[oldshadow]

that act is more damaging to a 15 year old girl's psychological state

it would not have a negative lasting impact on a 15 year old guy

Bull shit.

If the 15 year old girl was in a "good" relationship and "in love" with a supposing caring older man explain how that would be any more damaging.

I'm not condoning 15 year old girls and older men but the law should be applied the same across the board.


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