Every other weekend in jail for Cheerleader guilty of rape.

[cooks1]

I said legal system, of which judges are a part. I get why there is the double standard and like I said before I don't even think its inherently wrong, I just think it should be backed by actual evidence before being implemented.

By the way, the disparity in sentencing that everyone is menstruating about on here is not really that outrageous.

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2013/04/a_look_at_teacher-student_sex.html

The data about 72 men and 25 women also shows:

•Male defendants went to prison in 54 percent of cases compared with 44 percent of cases for female defendants;

•Men averaged 2.4 years in prison compared with 1.6 years in prison for women, or 50 percent more time;

•Ninety-three of the 97 cases ended in plea deals;

•€…Forty-seven cases ended in noncustodial sentences, which typically involved pre-trial intervention programs or probation.

So men went to prison 10% more often with about a 10 month difference in prison sentence. And some of that I'm sure is due to practical considerations like child rearing. For example in this case, the sentencing coincides with the kids Fathers custody arrangement (every other weekend). Not to mention the fact that nearly every case was plead out.

It's a disparity, but not a big one. Hardly worth getting worked up over.

 

[Islam Imamate]

Well, the judges are the ones that hear the evidence. They know more about any individual case than anyone reading about it on a forum. Presumably they would be best suited to determine the appropriate sentence within the confines of the law.

But any judge will apply their own personal life perspective to a case. And I suspect the sentencing you see reflects that. You want a broader perspective, have a broader pool of people sitting on the bench.

True but judges are human and can be flawed as evidenced by sentencing disparities by race and gender, which is why these issues need to be mentioned and thus we can be more conscious of them

By the way, the disparity in sentencing that everyone is menstruating about on here is not really that outrageous.

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2013/04/a_look_at_teacher-student_sex.html



So men went to prison 10% more often with about a 10 month difference in prison sentence. And some of that I'm sure is due to practical considerations like child rearing. Not to mention the fact that nearly every case was plead out.

It's a disparity, but not a big one. Hardly worth getting worked up over.

Admittedly, I was exaggerating when I said the guys get the book thrown at them. The disparity is probably much bigger in terms of public reaction but I still think in these cases its an injustice and should be rectified.

 

[cooks1]

True but judges are human and can be flawed as evidenced by sentencing disparities by race and gender, which is why these issues need to be mentioned and thus we can be more conscious of them

Admittedly, I was exaggerating when I said the guys get the book thrown at them. The disparity is probably much bigger in terms of public reaction but I still think in these cases its an injustice and should be rectified.

So, would you have thrown this woman's children into state care for a year or 2 and opted for a straight sentence? Or would you uproot their lives and force custody over to a father who could have easily contested custody when this happened, but chose not to.

All things considered, I think the judge did OK on this one. The woman has to drag her ass to jail every second weekend for 2 fucking years. 156 days in jail spread out over 2 years. I'd rather spend 6 months in jail straight than 156 days over 2 years. Driving your ass back and forth to prison every second weekend? Awful.

She is doing some time. She is paying restitution to the victim for therapy. And that is BEFORE she gets her ass sued off (she is worth millions). The victim gets therapy. And her kids also don't have their lives ruined any more than they already have. This sounding more and more like wisdom the more I think about it.

If you want to holler about unfairness in justice system, holler about the disparity of the rich vs the poor or black vs white, as opposed to male vs female. If this had been a poor black woman on trial, she would have got 40 years.

 

[Islam Imamate]

So, would you have thrown this woman's children into state care for a year or 2 and opted for a straight sentence? Or would you uproot their lives and force custody over to a father who could have easily contested custody when this happened, but chose not to.

All things considered, I think the judge did OK on this one. The woman has to drag her ass to jail every second weekend for 2 fucking years. 156 days in jail spread out over 2 years. I'd rather spend 6 months in jail straight than 156 days over 2 years. Driving your ass back and forth to prison every second weekend? Awful.

She is doing some time. She is paying restitution to the victim for therapy. And that is BEFORE she gets her ass sued off (she is worth millions). The victim gets therapy. And her kids also don't have their lives ruined any more than they already have. This sounding more and more like wisdom the more I think about it.

No, as I said earlier I think this was handled well. Instead of fucking over women I think we should look at the opposite cases more like the way we look at these cases and to a certain extent the judicial system does as you showed earlier but there is still a disparity there.

 

[Great Angus]

It's still a sin and the people wishing It were them are wicked.

 

[Madmick]

A large reason for this hypocrisy is other men. Men who are upset they didn't get laid when young or something or secretly crave young vagina but deny it.

Look no further than this own forum to find posters who have daughters who would cheer with sadist joy at the thought of sending a way some 20 year old let alone a 48 year old to prison for decades all for consensual sex with his sexual daughter. These walking hypocrites like to PRETEND that their daughters aren't sexual or that certain sexual acts with men or multiple men are 'above' their precious little daughter.

Oh how false they are. It is patriarchal society which creates a lot of this.

Oh and btw I am not a social justice warrior I am just speaking the truth. Men do NOT like a loss of power but it is this very same constant crave for power and cyclical cycle of needing to feel 'masculine' which encourages the phenomenon of empty 'religious' men and or walking hypocrites. Look no further than your own churches to see truly broken men masquerading with masks trying to deny the inner warrior/beast which craves to be let out!

 

[Matt M]

A large reason for this hypocrisy is other men. Men who are upset they didn't get laid when young or something or secretly crave young vagina but deny it.

Look no further than this own forum to find posters who have daughters who would cheer with sadist joy at the thought of sending a way some 20 year old let alone a 48 year old to prison for decades all for consensual sex with his sexual daughter. These walking hypocrites like to PRETEND that their daughters aren't sexual or that certain sexual acts with men or multiple men are 'above' their precious little daughter.

Oh how false they are. It is patriarchal society which creates a lot of this.

Oh and btw I am not a social justice warrior I am just speaking the truth. Men do NOT like a loss of power but it is this very same constant crave for power and cyclical cycle of needing to feel 'masculine' which encourages the phenomenon of empty 'religious' men and or walking hypocrites. Look no further than your own churches to see truly broken men masquerading with masks trying to deny the inner warrior/beast which craves to be let out!

Your point fell apart dramatically when you said the word 'patriarchal'.

And you sound a bit unhinged.
I'm sorry about your childhood, but please don't bring those issues onto what is normally a fairly sane discussion forum.

 

[skombolis]

Its pretty hard to believe that ignorance like this still exists. Women are just as predatory about sex as men. The idea that a sexually aggressive 15 year old girl is going to be traumatized more then a 15 year old boy would be is shear ignorance.

This is the same stupidity that suggested, women don't watch porn as much as men, or women don't masturbate as much as men, or women don't watch nasty porn like men, or women don't look at guys as one night stands. Its just classical idiocy.

WTF are you talking about? From my post...

"Yes women love sex too..."

"The sentencing should be based primarily on the amount of coercion and psychological damage after as assessed by a shrink."

And don't think for a second the younger person can't be the predator

The entire point was it shouldn't be a black and white gender thing but a case -by-case basis to determine if real psychological harm was done. But because how men and woman are socialized and approach sex I think it is more likely to be damaging to younger girls but clearly allowed for it to be damaging to younger guys as well or not damaging to either. THAT should be the basis for the sentencing, the damage, not the gender. I even pointed out sometimes the younger person is the predator and initiates things.

Maybe an older female teacher touched you in your special area like your shoulder and now you are a shut-in. But i would think you should have better reading comprehension if that was the case.

 

[sir loin]

I am confused I thought women having sex with boys was

in the mind of a conservative

can't have your cake and eat it too

 

[devante]

Its pretty hard to believe that ignorance like this still exists. Women are just as predatory about sex as men. The idea that a sexually aggressive 15 year old girl is going to be traumatized more then a 15 year old boy would be is shear ignorance.

This is the same stupidity that suggested, women don't watch porn as much as men, or women don't masturbate as much as men, or women don't watch nasty porn like men, or women don't look at guys as one night stands. Its just classical idiocy.

exactly i have alot of female friends, so i am very aware that the idea that women always get used or heartbroken is a LOAD OF SHIT; alot of chicks fuck around w/out guilt w/out emotion and w/out any issues as a result. Some, not all, play a victim role; saying they were hurt or upset or crushed, when its what they do to escape getting judged or attacked.

alt of guys have emotions, but pretend like they don't; so they don't come off like a bitch and as a result create all sorts of issues for themselves moving forward..


i have daugters and at no point am i just gonna assume that they are innocent princess, cause there are alot of accomplished intelligent balanced women who just like sex, they aren't victims..its just who/how the are

 

[devante]

So, would you have thrown this woman's children into state care for a year or 2 and opted for a straight sentence? Or would you uproot their lives and force custody over to a father who could have easily contested custody when this happened, but chose not to.

All things considered, I think the judge did OK on this one. The woman has to drag her ass to jail every second weekend for 2 fucking years. 156 days in jail spread out over 2 years. I'd rather spend 6 months in jail straight than 156 days over 2 years. Driving your ass back and forth to prison every second weekend? Awful.

She is doing some time. She is paying restitution to the victim for therapy. And that is BEFORE she gets her ass sued off (she is worth millions). The victim gets therapy. And her kids also don't have their lives ruined any more than they already have. This sounding more and more like wisdom the more I think about it.

If you want to holler about unfairness in justice system, holler about the disparity of the rich vs the poor or black vs white, as opposed to male vs female. If this had been a poor black woman on trial, she would have got 40 years.

u make an excellent point, i think alot of people are just mad if the situation was the exact same w/a girl; the man in question wouldn't be given these options regardless of who is depending on him or who it impacts.. or people believe that would happen, we don't really know.

but ur point is excellent

 

[devante]

Double standards gonna double standard.

I've been molested by women before - passed out, in and out of consciousness, getting a blowie for a hardon that's never going to happen, chick trying to push that rope, me trying really hard to stay unconscious or pretending to be so I don't have to do it with this girl.

If the roles were reversed and the chicks were that drunk, nearly passed out and incapable or unwilling to give consent, I'd be guilty as fuck of rape in a court of law or the court of public opinion.

Instead, I tell the story and dudes are like, "Haha, you got molested by some chubby chick!"

qft


a female friend of mine told me if a guy gets a girl drunk and sleeeps w/him, its rape; even if she agrees cus she is not rational/sensible. Yet my friend has slept w/three guys, while she was completely sober and considers that ok; even though all three guys would never sleep w/her sober and had rejected her on mult occasions when she served it up for them.

she says in a guys case...when he is drunk he is doing what he really wants; never mind the fact she got on all three cus they were fucking wasted..

had a kid by one of them after that

 

[Bargey]

Still don't know how it's rape if the 15 yr old kid stood there while getting his d** k sucked. Statutory rape maybe which given the age and genders, probably makes weekend detention or whatever a somewhat fitting punishment.

 

[Byron Carter]

We don't live in a simple world.

Things aren't always equal.

A man raping a little girl is, in my mind, not the same as a woman "raping" a boy. That's just my personal opinion. As someone who was once a teenage boy, I don't think a woman could have done anything to corrupt me.

 

[Devout Pessimist]

The Mangina's in this thread need to watch some YouTube videos featuring Mel Feit.

 

[Great Angus]

Bottom line. She was in a position of authority/ power and took advantage of the lust of a male minor. She got off very easily given the fact she is a predator who is supposed to be in charge of our children.