Social Even Democrats now agree : No Russian Collusion

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[Farmer Br0wn]

I found this really compelling until they brought in Fedor. I just can't take the idea of a guy who gets punched in the head for a living being the secret link between political operatives, and if a connection that weak derives a link, then how solid are the other lines really?

You're missing the point. The 'links' here are supposed to be indicative of some nefarious, clandestine relationship and/or facilitating the Trump-Russia meta-narrative. Yet Fedor is an included link. I just cannot see how he could possibly be involved in a secret geopolitical agenda.

This link is extremely loose, which makes me question every other link listed.

It reminds me more of the old Hollywood game "7 degrees of separation from Kevin Bacon". It doesn't matter how tenuous the social connection may be, it's taken as an absolute rock-solid gospel link.

I just chalk it up to partisan panic wrestling.

 

[Farmer Br0wn]

Because its a true statement.

Fixed for ya friend!

In case you forgot:

The likelihood of the Mueller and Senate investigations coming to wildly different conclusions is pretty much 0%.

You're unable to retort this statement, because it can't be retorted.

 

[JamesRussler]

Oh great, someone who wants to talk about the Steele Dossier, Devin Nunes' bullshit in the house about FISA warrants, etc., I love this topic, thanks for teeing that one up!

IDK man. That seems a bit dismissive. There was a lot of official wrongdoing that got exposed—too much to flush down the memory hole. How many of the Crossfire Hurricane progenitors got fired or disciplined for misconduct? At least 7 (Comey, McCabe, Strzok, Page, Ohr, Baker, Yates, Anderson), and a ton of resignations in disgrace. The Strzok/Page "insurance policy" text messages are particularly damning. The cat is pretty much out of the bag that these guys knew there wasn't any "Russian collusion" and that they targeted Trump for purely political reasons. They basically took a shot at a sitting President and missed. Tsk, tsk.

That said, when bombshells like this drop, nothing happens unless someone with power decides to act on it, e.g., by filing charges. Presently, no charges have been filed against the CH crew, and Democrats appear to believe this means that they are in the clear. But I wouldn't expect any charges to be filed until after Mueller formally closes his investigation anyway (after all, you can't determine that an investigation was baseless until the investigation is complete). Once Mueller's investigation formally closes without anything to substantiate the "Russian collision" allegations, I suspect the Crossfire Hurricane crew will reckon with a grand jury, and then with a petit jury. Mueller will probably flip, and the dominoes fall from there.

The lesson here is that you can't do the right thing by doing the wrong thing. The government agents involved in CH believed so strongly that Trump was evil that they were willing to abuse their authority, break the law, and betray their country. In so doing, they became evil themselves. Now, they could be facing life in prison, or even the death penalty. Pretty sad TBH.

 

[MikeMcMann]

Fixed for ya friend!

In case you forgot:

The likelihood of the Mueller and Senate investigations coming to wildly different conclusions is pretty much 0%.

You're unable to retort this statement, because it can't be retorted.

I like how you are committed to stupid.

A democratic Congress and Republican congress investigation coming to widely different conclusions on lying to congress is pretty much 0%...


...if you are stupid.

 

[HomeCheese]

The likelihood of the Senate and Mueller investigations coming to wildly different conclusions, is pretty much 0%.

Sorry, it's already over.

Do you think there will be any more indictments coming out of the Mueller investigation? I'm guessing there will be more and other revelations of importance.

 

[glenwo2]

What are you a 13 year old girl? At least try to take a piece of what I said and address it.

Stop posting your creepy pictures, you perv.

 

[glenwo2]

I think people just paper over the phrase "no direct evidence" and replace it with "no evidence at all".

No one has claimed that there is zero evidence, only that they have no direct evidence. But as any lawyer can tell you, you don't need direct evidence to prove a case. The totality of circumstantial evidence is often more than often to yield the same proof.

Now, I don't claim to know what will be in the report, only that it's inaccurate to equate "no direct evidence" with "no evidence at all".

No direct evidence means NO EVIDENCE. What the fuck?!?!

That's like the whole Clinton fiasco where he says :

“It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is."

What a fucking joke.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

You're missing the point. The 'links' here are supposed to be indicative of some nefarious, clandestine relationship and/or facilitating the Trump-Russia meta-narrative. Yet Fedor is an included link. I just cannot see how he could possibly be involved in a secret geopolitical agenda.

This link is extremely loose, which makes me question every other link listed.

Don't throw out the baby with the bathwater.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

Fixed for ya friend!

In case you forgot:

The likelihood of the Mueller and Senate investigations coming to wildly different conclusions is pretty much 0%.

You're unable to retort this statement, because it can't be retorted.

I'll bet your farm subsidies against my welfare checks that there's a difference.

 

[glenwo2]

The fuck is motherjones.com that Madcow got her sources from?

 

[glenwo2]

Don't throw out the baby with the bathwater.

What does Zebby have to do with anything?

 

[LangfordBarrow]

What does Zebby have to do with anything?

The pile of doodie Baby Trump blimp has piled in his diaper.

 

[MikeMcMann]

Do you think there will be any more indictments coming out of the Mueller investigation? I'm guessing there will be more and other revelations of importance.

let me answer for @Farmer Br0wn.

The likelihood of the Senate Investigation and Mueller investigations coming to wildly different conclusions with regards to Indictments, is pretty much 0%.

 

[glenwo2]

The pile of doodie Baby Trump blimp has piled in his diaper.

So Zebby is doodie?

Not shocked in the slightest.

 

[HomeCheese]

let me answer for @Farmer Br0wn.

The likelihood of the Senate Investigation and Mueller investigations coming to wildly different conclusions with regards to Indictments, is pretty much 0%.

That doesn't answer the question. Do you think there will be any more indictments?

 

[MikeMcMann]

That doesn't answer the question. Do you think there will be any more indictments?

well you never asked me that question. You asked Farmer Brown but FWIW I think there will be a whole slew more indictments.

 

[panamaican]

Because in this particular instance, it's a distinction without a difference. It is worth noting that is not the case in every instance, but it is the case in this particular instance.

Do you agree, or disagree with this statement:

The likelihood of the Mueller and Senate investigations coming to wildly different conclusions is pretty much 0%.

I have no idea because I haven't seen either of the reports. I try to avoid jumping the gun on things of this significance. But that's irrelevant to the point I was making.

The point I was making is that people who are claiming that there was no collusion are conflating two different concepts. The concept of "no direct evidence" and the concept of "no evidence"

It's not a distinction without a difference because every lawyer and investigator of any salt understands that they are very different and that you can prove something conclusively without utilizing any direct evidence.

 

[panamaican]

No direct evidence means NO EVIDENCE. What the fuck?!?!

That's like the whole Clinton fiasco where he says :

“It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is."

What a fucking joke.

Spoken like someone who has never had to prove a case before a neutral party.

 

[HomeCheese]

well you never asked me that question. You asked Farmer Brown but FWIW I think there will be a whole slew more indictments.

Agreed, more indictments to come.