Social Even Democrats now agree : No Russian Collusion

[MikeMcMann]

Can you stick to a topic? The topic is Manafort’s sharing of polling data being illegal per se, which you say is when it’s not illegal per se

Troll on brother. It's not illegal per se, its just illegal.


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- Fact : Trump calls for Russia to hack Hilary and help his campaign (video evidence available)
- Fact : Russia the same day begins hacking the DNC and a social media campaign to impact voting districts to sway voters from Hilary to Trump (FBI, CIA, Homeland Security and NSA confirmed)
- Fact : Manafort sends internal polling data to Russian agents which is against the law. Simply sending them breaks the law even if they never used them. FACT

happy to bet on the above and substantiate all fact for anyone who disputes.

 

[bobgeese]

Troll on brother. It's not illegal per se, its just illegal.


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- Fact : Trump calls for Russia to hack Hilary and help his campaign (video evidence available)
- Fact : Russia the same day begins hacking the DNC and a social media campaign to impact voting districts to sway voters from Hilary to Trump (FBI, CIA, Homeland Security and NSA confirmed)
- Fact : Manafort sends internal polling data to Russian agents which is against the law. Simply sending them breaks the law even if they never used them. FACT

happy to bet on the above and substantiate all fact for anyone who disputes.

If you don’t realize Trump was mocking Hillary by “asking Russia”, you’re retarded.

 

[TheBlondBomber]

Troll on brother. It's not illegal per se, its just illegal.


...
- Fact : Trump calls for Russia to hack Hilary and help his campaign (video evidence available)
- Fact : Russia the same day begins hacking the DNC and a social media campaign to impact voting districts to sway voters from Hilary to Trump (FBI, CIA, Homeland Security and NSA confirmed)
- Fact : Manafort sends internal polling data to Russian agents which is against the law. Simply sending them breaks the law even if they never used them. FACT

happy to bet on the above and substantiate all fact for anyone who disputes.

Ah so now you’re backtracking. My position the entire conversation that sending polling data in of itself I.e., illegal per se, is not illegal. Also, there is currently not enough evidence available to deem what Manafort did illegal, if there was, Mueller would have charged him. It’s purely speculation to say that what he did was illegal based on surrounding circumstances.

Unless you’re saying that you know more than mueller.

Still waiting on your source, punchy.

 

[Cake4Breakfast]

Troll on brother. It's not illegal per se, its just illegal.


...
- Fact : Trump calls for Russia to hack Hilary and help his campaign (video evidence available)
- Fact : Russia the same day begins hacking the DNC and a social media campaign to impact voting districts to sway voters from Hilary to Trump (FBI, CIA, Homeland Security and NSA confirmed)
- Fact : Manafort sends internal polling data to Russian agents which is against the law. Simply sending them breaks the law even if they never used them. FACT

happy to bet on the above and substantiate all fact for anyone who disputes.

Totally not weird that Trump told MSNBC on July 31, 2016 that "the people of Crimea, from what I have heard, would rather be with Russia than where they were ". Such a controversial pro Russian position supporting Russia's annexation of Crimea was probably not connected at all to Manafort's dealings with Kilimnik.

 

[all caps]

Does this bullshit end in 2020 or do we get to keep arguing about this until 2024 and beyond?

 

[MikeMcMann]

If you don’t realize Trump was mocking Hillary by “asking Russia”, you’re retarded.

lol. at "mocking"

Trump knew Manafort, his campaign chair was already in discussions with the Russians about hacking and finding Hilary's emails. They had already been told they were out there.

So no, Trump was dead serious when he gave the Russians the green light to go get it with his blessing.

You have to be an idiot to not know that.

 

[MikeMcMann]

Ah so now you’re backtracking. My position the entire conversation that sending polling data in of itself I.e., illegal per se, is not illegal. Also, there is currently not enough evidence available to deem what Manafort did illegal, if there was, Mueller would have charged him. It’s purely speculation to say that what he did was illegal based on surrounding circumstances.

Unless you’re saying that you know more than mueller.

Still waiting on your source, punchy.

Troll on brother.

I've established my position. I have put my facts in easy to address bullet point form. And not one of you will take on those facts. You just keep trying to shift and shift.


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- Fact : Trump calls for Russia to hack Hilary and help his campaign (video evidence available)
- Fact : Russia the same day begins hacking the DNC and a social media campaign to impact voting districts to sway voters from Hilary to Trump (FBI, CIA, Homeland Security and NSA confirmed)
- Fact : Manafort sends internal polling data to Russian agents which is against the law. Simply sending them breaks the law even if they never used them. FACT

happy to bet on the above and substantiate all fact for anyone who disputes.

 

[Cake4Breakfast]

If you don’t realize Trump was mocking Hillary by “asking Russia”, you’re retarded.

Guess Russian intelligence is retarded, or something very coincidental occurred that same day?

“Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,” Mr. Trump said, referring to emails Mrs. Clinton had deleted from the private account she had used when she was secretary of state. “I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.”

As it turns out, that same day, the Russians — whether they had tuned in or not — made their first effort to break into the servers used by Mrs. Clinton’s personal office, according to a sweeping 29-page indictment unsealed Friday by the special counsel’s office that charged 12 Russians with election hacking."

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/13/us/politics/trump-russia-clinton-emails.html

 

[bobgeese]

lol. at "mocking"

Trump knew Manafort, his campaign chair was already in discussions with the Russians about hacking and finding Hilary's emails. They had already been told they were out there.

So no, Trump was dead serious when he gave the Russians the green light to go get it with his blessing.

You have to be an idiot to not know that.

Holy shit. Let me point out just how retarded you are.


You state that Trump knew PM was working with the Russians. And that Trump gave them the go ahead in the debate.


Riddle me this Einstein, why in the fuck wouldn’t Trump just tell Paul to give the go ahead to the Russians, instead of doing it on national television?









Apparently, @Cake4Breakfast is a retard too.

 

[TheBlondBomber]

Troll on brother.

I've established my position. I have put my facts in easy to address bullet point form. And not one of you will take on those facts. You just keep trying to shift and shift.


...
- Fact : Trump calls for Russia to hack Hilary and help his campaign (video evidence available)
- Fact : Russia the same day begins hacking the DNC and a social media campaign to impact voting districts to sway voters from Hilary to Trump (FBI, CIA, Homeland Security and NSA confirmed)
- Fact : Manafort sends internal polling data to Russian agents which is against the law. Simply sending them breaks the law even if they never used them. FACT

happy to bet on the above and substantiate all fact for anyone who disputes.

Can you show me anywhere where my assertion was to the contrary.

You have repeatedly said that Manafort’s sharing of polling data in of itself was a crime. Then followed up with “they can’t even show polling data with their PACs”. Suggesting that any sharing of polling data is s crime. Yet you have not cited a single statute to support any of your positions. Smdh. Troll.

 

[MikeMcMann]

Totally not weird that Trump told MSNBC on July 31, 2016 that "the people of Crimea, from what I have heard, would rather be with Russia than where they were ". Such a controversial pro Russian position supporting Russia's annexation of Crimea was probably not connected at all to Manafort's dealings with Kilimnik.

Yup.

Also totally not weird that within a couple of weeks of Trump being sworn in he goes off on Belarus and saying Poland might invade Belarus.

A line that none of the intelligence agencies in the West was saying but Putin and his KGB were running a disinformation campaign stating those same lines. The Western Intelligence consider it fake news by Russia and yet Trump parroted it a few weeks in to his administration.

Another was when the POTUS said Montenegro are a danger of starting WW3 as they are super aggressive. Another Russian talking point as Russia has been trying to destabilize that country and keep them out of Nato as they were applying to join at that time.


But Trump also said Ted Cruz's father helped kill JFK which was only ever reported in the National Enquirer and yet repeated by the worldly POTUS who has opinions on Poland, Belarus and Montenegro...

 

[MikeMcMann]

Guess Russian intelligence is retarded, or something very coincidental occurred that same day?

“Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,” Mr. Trump said, referring to emails Mrs. Clinton had deleted from the private account she had used when she was secretary of state. “I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.”

As it turns out, that same day, the Russians — whether they had tuned in or not — made their first effort to break into the servers used by Mrs. Clinton’s personal office, according to a sweeping 29-page indictment unsealed Friday by the special counsel’s office that charged 12 Russians with election hacking."

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/13/us/politics/trump-russia-clinton-emails.html

Yup.

Manafort was talking to Russians about getting the rumoured data (emails) that they were told were out there. The Russians would want confirmation that in fact Trump (and not just Manafort) wanted this done. They already had Manafort compromised and having Trump ask them would compromise him and leave him vulnerable to Russian blackmail and influence.

It certainly looks likely Manafort told Trump the Russians wanted confirmation from him. No one likely expected he would do it on national TV at the time but now that we know Trump, we know he would not do it any other way.

 

[MikeMcMann]

Can you show me anywhere where my assertion was to the contrary.

You have repeatedly said that Manafort’s sharing of polling data in of itself was a crime. Then followed up with “they can’t even show polling data with their PACs”. Suggesting that any sharing of polling data is s crime. Yet you have not cited a single statute to support any of your positions. Smdh. Troll.

It was a crime.

I have already provided the facts.

i have provided it to you over and over and you avoid it, as I predicted you would. You never wanted an answer or proof and you had no plan to address when provided.

 

[TheBlondBomber]

It was a crime.

I have already provided the facts.

i have provided it to you over and over and you avoid it, as I predicted you would. You never wanted an answer or proof and you had no plan to address when provided.

Lol so you proved he committed a crime, yet mueller hasn’t even charged him? Wow. Where did you go to law school again?

Also, way to avoid answering why you said it was illegal per say and then backtracked that.

 

[MikeMcMann]

Lol so you proved he committed a crime, yet mueller hasn’t even charged him? Wow. Where did you go to law school again?

Also, way to avoid answering why you said it was illegal per say and then backtracked that.

In the same way you prove he did not. Surprise. If its good for you, its good for me.

and re the claim of backtrack lol. Here it is again. Your question asked and answered.

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Troll on brother.

I've established my position. I have put my facts in easy to address bullet point form. And not one of you will take on those facts. You just keep trying to shift and shift.


...
- Fact : Trump calls for Russia to hack Hilary and help his campaign (video evidence available)
- Fact : Russia the same day begins hacking the DNC and a social media campaign to impact voting districts to sway voters from Hilary to Trump (FBI, CIA, Homeland Security and NSA confirmed)
- Fact : Manafort sends internal polling data to Russian agents which is against the law. Simply sending them breaks the law even if they never used them. FACT

happy to bet on the above and substantiate all fact for anyone who disputes.

 

[TheBlondBomber]

In the same way you prove he did not. Surprise. If its good for you, its good for me.

and re the claim of backtrack lol. Here it is again. Your question asked and answered.

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Troll on brother.

I've established my position. I have put my facts in easy to address bullet point form. And not one of you will take on those facts. You just keep trying to shift and shift.


...
- Fact : Trump calls for Russia to hack Hilary and help his campaign (video evidence available)
- Fact : Russia the same day begins hacking the DNC and a social media campaign to impact voting districts to sway voters from Hilary to Trump (FBI, CIA, Homeland Security and NSA confirmed)
- Fact : Manafort sends internal polling data to Russian agents which is against the law. Simply sending them breaks the law even if they never used them. FACT

happy to bet on the above and substantiate all fact for anyone who disputes.

And now we have established that you don’t understand the burden of proof, but you have grasped how to copy and paste. Do you’ve got that going for you. Congrats.

Also, you haven’t proved you’re not a phile. Work on that.

 

[all caps]

Yup.

Also totally not weird that within a couple of weeks of Trump being sworn in he goes off on Belarus and saying Poland might invade Belarus.

A line that none of the intelligence agencies in the West was saying but Putin and his KGB were running a disinformation campaign stating those same lines. The Western Intelligence consider it fake news by Russia and yet Trump parroted it a few weeks in to his administration.

Another was when the POTUS said Montenegro are a danger of starting WW3 as they are super aggressive. Another Russian talking point as Russia has been trying to destabilize that country and keep them out of Nato as they were applying to join at that time.


But Trump also said Ted Cruz's father helped kill JFK which was only ever reported in the National Enquirer and yet repeated by the worldly POTUS who has opinions on Poland, Belarus and Montenegro...

You know what would be brilliant..., if someone set up the national Enquirer and other crazy magazines to purposefully discredit stories. I've never thought of it that way. But I bet I'm right.

 

[MikeMcMann]

And now we have established that you don’t understand the burden of proof, but you have grasped how to copy and paste. Do you’ve got that going for you. Congrats.

Also, you haven’t proved you’re not a phile. Work on that.

Do i need to quote you making statements as if Fact that were not?

You seem to like to try and hold a high bar for others but funny you think you have any credibility to do so.

 

[Happy Man]

Totally not weird that Trump told MSNBC on July 31, 2016 that "the people of Crimea, from what I have heard, would rather be with Russia than where they were ". Such a controversial pro Russian position supporting Russia's annexation of Crimea was probably not connected at all to Manafort's dealings with Kilimnik.

The people of Crimea are Russian! You dolt. They are all families who are descendants of Russian military bases for hundreds of years.

They took over Crimea without a shot being fired. That should say something

 

[Cake4Breakfast]

Holy shit. Let me point out just how retarded you are.


You state that Trump knew PM was working with the Russians. And that Trump gave them the go ahead in the debate.


Riddle me this Einstein, why in the fuck wouldn’t Trump just tell Paul to give the go ahead to the Russians, instead of doing it on national television?









Apparently, @Cake4Breakfast is a retard too.

1. Because Trump lacks frontal inhibition (per his lawyer Dowd explaining why Trump is incapable of not lying to Meuller in a deposition) and says stupid shit off the cuff, and didn't give Manafort the time until Manafort met with Kilimnik again on 8/2?
2. Because it was a direct message from Trump himself that could be played off as a joke?
3. It's funny that a conspiracy theorist such as yourself just writes off the timing of Russia's first spearfishing attempts targeting email accounts linked to Hillary. Mueller didn't.
4. And how dare you call me a retard Bob, you take that back!