Eugene Bareman trying to avoid DDP fight?

[Stagliano]

Before the rematch against Pereira, Eugene has publicly said that Adesanya had taken the rematch too fast and that he should have trained more before to step in the cage against Pereira. The rest is history.

It's not because Eugene is worry for Izzy that that last will necessarily lose.

 

[Pechan]

He is literally saying that you never know with the UFC, they might not give him a shot next after turning this one down.

But carry on.

 

[HP_Nut]

If DDP doesn’t get next, it’s clear case of UFC holding the African man down

 

[Foppa21]

Far from it. Eugene has said it previously about other fighters. All he's really saying is you have a opportunity, you should really consider taking it because you never know if you'll every get it again. I believe he said the same thing a few years ago about another potential challenger.

If you turn down a opportunity to fight up, especially a title shot, consider very heavily if you want to let it pass by. History in the UFC has been littered by those that have said no and never got a shot or another shot. Think of the likes of Karo Parisyan or Jon Fitch a second time to a certain extent.

 

[NoBiasJustMMA]

Far from it. Eugene has said it previously about other fighters. All he's really saying is you have a opportunity, you should really consider taking it because you never know if you'll every get it again. I believe he said the same thing a few years ago about another potential challenger.

If you turn down a opportunity to fight up, especially a title shot, consider very heavily if you want to let it pass by. History in the UFC has been littered by those that have said no and never got a shot or another shot. Think of the likes of Karo Parisyan or Jon Fitch a second time to a certain extent.

Sure, if there was a case for someone else to get the title shot over DDP that might happen but I don't see that changing. There's a lot of interest in Izzy vs DDP and even if Khamzat wins his best win won't even be a top 5 guy. I think DDP has 2 top 5 wins and maybe another top 10 win(can't remember if Till was still top 10 or not).

I don't think DDP should waste a title shot on going into a camp injured and having a short training camp, the fight's still going to be there for late 2023 or early 2024.

 

[Portland8242]

Bareman takes good care of his guys, he must see something there he needs additional time to prepare for.


On the feet, Izzy smokes DDP. He’s just too defensively sound. I think it’s that unpredictability and brute strength of DDP that might be the issue, if he somehow forces a takedown he can cause some damage with that aggressive GnP.

Nah I doubt it, they're confident they'll smoke DDP.

Baremen did this same shit with the Whittaker rematch too.

 

[Tweak896]

I thought Izzy was ducking Khamzat but now he’s ducking DDP?

Haters please make a choice!

Izzy is ducking everyone while simultaneously the only champ that has beat most of his current top 15 in his division. People need to make it make sense. Fighting Strickland, DDP, then Khamzat would be nuts though.

 

[octagonation]

Sherbros need to read between the lins Baremann is not ducking or saying anything remotely close to that..

Baremann is saying that what DDP did has consequences meaning backing out and creating all this chaos with the Strickland mismatch replacement. Baremann is saying he shouldn't be rewarded by being next he should go out there and fight. I tend to understand where Baremann is coming from. He should have just gone and fought him in Australia he was gonna get starched anyways sept, december, Febuary etc etc. Lets be honest Izzy and DDP aren't on the same level. You can beat someone like Whittaker who is an uncoordinated striker who lacks striking fundamentals who just jumps back and forth without pattern because he learned striking during his MMA days but Izzy has been striking since he was very young he comes from a kickboxing background he understands the fundamentals, timing, position, the certain things that work or don't etc etc. He is not gonna lose to a green DDP in a stand-up fight it won't happen the gap between them is too big.

I also think they want him and the winner of Chimaev-Costa to fight while Izzy steps away for awhile. Something tells me Izzy will try to take time off. They want an interim title somehow between winner of Chimaev-CO and DDP both sides won't agree to this would rather see one go first instead which means DDP.

I would love to see DDP wait further he will definitely get his shoot. If Khamzat Chimaev smeshes Costa he should instead get it instantly.

Also this is actully the opposite. Where have you seen a champion calling out a chellenger? It happened in the Izzy-DDP he was even cheering on him to beat Whittaker..

DDP is a selected favorable match-up in Izzy's eyes but DDP saw thru the whole trap and took time off in order to improve but he needs atleast 1 year and half he is young and doesn't need to rush he will improve and Izzy will decline age will catch him. He shouldn't allow Izzy to chose the time and place because once Izzy starches him he will never get that L back it will haunt his soul forever and he will drag his azz across Africa like he said. You don't wanna lose this kind of grudge matches like that honestly title is not even important in their fight it means more then that. Belt is irrelevant in that fight.

If I was Izzy I would rather take an L against Khamzat rather then DDP. He will lose the bragging rights to showing his azz in Africa if Dricus was somehow to starch him. Atleast against Khamzat it would just be business as usual and for comeptition nothing personal.

Also in the Dricus fight all the pressure will be on Izzy to perform cause nobody would expect DDP to win anyways and atleast lose to a name honestly Dricus is kind of a bum in Izzy's worldview and also somewhat in the fans point of view DDP is a bum in comparison to Khamzat

 

[ExitLUPin]

If Khamzat runs through Costa hed be the only other possibility after Izzy beats Sean

So its either Dricus or Khamzat. Izzy can't hide.

 

[maximus__]

I actually don't believe they're stacking the deck for any particular person. I think they're just dealing with each timing issue as it comes. Back to UFC 265, they booked Gane v Beast 6 weeks out for an interim title shot, because they needed a big main event for Houston. Lewis was from Houston. But that wasn't exactly stacking the deck for Lewis. That's just one example that I think supports my hypothesis.

Oliveira tried to get the next title shot moved away from Abu Dhabi, he just couldn't quite pull it off, heh.

It's poor planning on their parts to be honest. I get having Izzy as a main event for Sydney and I guess it's better than the Mark Hunt events they always used to have. Poor planning by the UFC though. 8 weeks was doomed to fail. Now we have Strickland turning up after fighting an unranked guy. To be honest it should have been Cannonier again if DDP couldn't make it.

 

[dipstickjimmy]

Definitely seems like they want it when its way more advantageous for Izzy. Trying to get the guy fresh off a fight and camp with 0 recovery time, asking him to go right back into camp. Thats how you get worn down and injured. Anyone giving DDP shit for that is either uneducated, or just a shameless izzy nuthugger. DDP smashed the number 1 guy in the division. Only other person whos been able to do that is the champion. Strickland took this short notice and fresh off a fight because he beat a nobody and had no leverage to argue otherwise. DDP deserves a full camp for beating the absolute best guy not holding the belt in the division.

If the UFC pulled this after the fact I agree but it was more a case of Izzy is fighting at UFC 293. They offered it to DDP based on his win. He isn't able to fight so Sean Strickland gets a shot. I haven't heard anyone in authority say DDP drops to the back of the line. But we all know some who are "Deserving" of a title shot with a full camp do not get it. Maia got short notice to fight Woodley and if he had passed he may never have gotten the shot. If Khamzat beats Costa he may well jump ahead of DDP.

 

[phillystyleswag]

I don’t think it would be the craziest thing in the world if Khamzat skipped the line if he kills Paulo. I think the storyline between Izzy and DDP will probably be DDP’s saving grace but Eugene is right about never knowing with the UFC.

I think this mostly comes down to the UFC being stupid by a. Booking the DDP- Whittaker fight so close to this card and b. Guaranteeing/being so dead set on the the Izzy fight at 293 that they’re making this dumb ass filler Strickland fight. I’d rather just wait till like December for the DDP fight but it wasn’t an option

 

[Ironheart]

I wouldn't read too much into this. I'm sure DDP gets next (if not, riot). My guess is that Sean is the highest ranked guy they could get for Izzy on short notice that he hasn't beaten at least once.

 

[CroCopsLHK]

He's an ex-fighter. I imagine he's fought with injuries and probably is a tough person.

Granted, it wasn't for world gold but he's not exactly speaking about something he doesn't understand or hasn't done himself, or coached his guys to do. We can disagree, but no reason to make it seem like he's a fake guy speaking on real guys.

He's a tough person but his record speaks very little what he's talking about. He manages champions, had a mediocre fight record, and now chastizing a opponent of his client for not fighting injured

Yeah. Bald Aussie with a beard is a little bitch confirmed

 

[CroCopsLHK]

Him fighting on short notice versus Strickland is giving him a bigger advantage though he knows when and where he's fighting he's had longer to prepare than Strickland has. I don't understand how you've come to the opposite conclusion that I have on that and I almost always see where you're coming from even if we don't agree.

Eugene's comments look like they could cause the UFC to have someone else LeapFrog DDP when no one really should, I don't see that as stirrng the pot as much as it is looking like hes trying to delay the DDP fight.

Right. I got a lot of respect for you Substance Abuse but I don't like your side. "Short notice". Yeah maybe fir Strickland who just got it signed. Israel knew he was fighting in AUS. Against DDP and then probably Strickland. Don't act like a fan boy or that the cards were stacked against Izzy. I'm disappointed SMH

 

[mudrubble]

He's a tough person but his record speaks very little what he's talking about. He manages champions, had a mediocre fight record, and now chastizing a opponent of his client for not fighting injured

Yeah. Bald Aussie with a beard is a little bitch confirmed

That's great. Sherdog strikes again.

Btw, no way you can say his record speaks little about fighting injured. Speaking on championships, it's hard to say he doesn't have a lot of experience entering championship fights with injured fighters either. So I think you can dislike him but it's not true that he's speaking on stuff he's not experienced in. He has tons of experience entering championship fights (as a coach) with injured fighters and I *imagine* he says *the exact same things to his fighters* about taking the opportunity when it's given to them.

If anything, what I heard more of was "the UFC will offer you the sun and moon today and not need you tomorrow - don't take it for granted that you'll be next in line when you step out of line"

I think this is patently and obviously true. Like him or hate him, I can't see what he was incorrect about here.

But Sherdog always strikes, strikes back, and strikes again. So we can just agree he's a little scared and whiny bitch who has no clue what he's speaking on when it comes to fights and champs and he's speaking out of inexperience and also out of his ass. Fkn Sherdog rules!! Bitchass little Aussie fkn Edmond. I hope his left eye falls out of his fkn skull, the bitch.

 

[AmbassadorFright]

I like Chimaev but fuck that. Beating Whittaker is FAR more impressive than beating overrated part time fighter Paulo Costa. Dricus beat champ b if the division (the only person to do so other than Izzy)

 

[andgonsil]

DDP is next in line. If Izzy is scared, he shoud move up to 205.

 

[checktheknuckles]

I thought Izzy was ducking Khamzat but now he’s ducking DDP?

Haters please make a choice!

Izzy ducking both and ducking the Alex rematch. Izzy rather be 1-3 than 1-4.

 

[RonDante]

I don’t know if this is accurate, but did bareman once say that Whittaker didn’t deserve the second fight with adesanya and that “he needed more than 3 wins to get another title shot”?