Eugene Bareman trying to avoid DDP fight?

[NoBiasJustMMA]

Came across this while scrolling Facebook but couldn't get that link share to work so found another one.

https://www.mmanews.com/news/dricus...o-step-up-to-fight-israel-adesanya-at-ufc-293

Cliffs

Well I don’t make that call, but the problem is if you don’t step up and take fights you go into the pool,” Bareman explained. “That’s a fact. Nothing in this sport is solid until there’s something signed on the dotted line. If he’s got nothing signed on the dotted line, then he’s out there in the ether.”


He had a shot, it’s the same shot that many of my boys have had here, fought for titles or have had titles. You never, never, never – and we’ve fought with horrific injuries, because you don’t take that lightly. And the problem with them is, ‘I’ve had an injury’. And yeah, it’s been a bad injury. So what? You’ve taken your shot for granted, you think you’re gonna get it again? But you don’t know what this machine does. You don’t know the UFC, you don’t know what they do, you don’t know how they twist and turn things. Never feel comfortable with where you are. If there’s something in front of you that you’ve been working for your whole life, don’t think for a minute just like that. And he had it, and he let it slip. So they can’t be sitting comfortable thinking that they’ve got the next shot.”

Looks to me like they only wanted to fight DDP coming off an injury on short notice and want the UFC to pick someone else for next in line after Strickland despite DDP having the best wins of any current contender at MW. I don't see the point in making these comments otherwise. DDP dominated and KOed the number 1 contender.

 

[ComfortablyNumb55]

DDP better be next in line.

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

Wouldn't be surprised by Kiwi Edmond and Crybaby Kickboxing

 

[Fact Checker]

Bareman takes good care of his guys, he must see something there he needs additional time to prepare for.


On the feet, Izzy smokes DDP. He’s just too defensively sound. I think it’s that unpredictability and brute strength of DDP that might be the issue, if he somehow forces a takedown he can cause some damage with that aggressive GnP.

 

[Dreyga_King of Sherbums]

I thought Izzy was ducking Khamzat but now he’s ducking DDP?

Haters please make a choice!

 

[SeattleFightFan]

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https://www.mmanews.com/news/dricus-du-plessis-told-he-may-not-get-title-shot-next-after-failing-to-step-up-to-fight-israel-adesanya-at-ufc-293#amp_tf=From %1$s&aoh=16916987651205&referrer=https://www.google.com&ampshare=https://www.mmanews.com/news/dricus-du-plessis-told-he-may-not-get-title-shot-next-after-failing-to-step-up-to-fight-israel-adesanya-at-ufc-293

Cliffs

Well I don’t make that call, but the problem is if you don’t step up and take fights you go into the pool,” Bareman explained. “That’s a fact. Nothing in this sport is solid until there’s something signed on the dotted line. If he’s got nothing signed on the dotted line, then he’s out there in the ether.”


He had a shot, it’s the same shot that many of my boys have had here, fought for titles or have had titles. You never, never, never – and we’ve fought with horrific injuries, because you don’t take that lightly. And the problem with them is, ‘I’ve had an injury’. And yeah, it’s been a bad injury. So what? You’ve taken your shot for granted, you think you’re gonna get it again? But you don’t know what this machine does. You don’t know the UFC, you don’t know what they do, you don’t know how they twist and turn things. Never feel comfortable with where you are. If there’s something in front of you that you’ve been working for your whole life, don’t think for a minute just like that. And he had it, and he let it slip. So they can’t be sitting comfortable thinking that they’ve got the next shot.”

Looks to me like they only wanted to fight DDP coming off an injury on short notice and want the UFC to pick someone else for next in line after Strickland despite DDP having the best wins of any current contender at MW. I don't see the point in making these comments otherwise. DDP dominated and KOed the number 1 contender.

To me this is a clear case of UFC putting the cart before the horse.

They booked an event in Sydney. Now they need a headliner.

Insert UFC pressure here. The opponent they wanted couldn't make it, so they pressure him. This will surprise no one who pays any attention. He still declines, so they now have to create a ludicrous title fight with Strickland as the least worst option forward.

I remember when they signed a bunch of events in Houston, Texas and then a fight with Derrick Lewis they were counting on fell through and all hell broke loose. Same thing here.

 

[Ornife]

I think the man is conveying that the UFC, the "machine", makes no promises and nothing is ever guaranteed. It can all be changed on a whim and everything is always in the air.

 

[NoBiasJustMMA]

I thought Izzy was ducking Khamzat but now he’s ducking DDP?

Haters please make a choice!

There's hundreds if not thousands of accounts on here. I never once claimed he's ducking Khamzat cause he’s done nothing to deserve a title shot.

 

[svmr_db]

Bareman is a shit stirrer, I think he made headlines implying his team was going to duck the second Whittaker fight even though Izzy never had any intentions to duck anyone. He just likes to rustle people up.

 

[ForeverYoung]

Just more garbage from City Kickboxing. You know those guys are salty as hell that DDP didn't turn around on 2 months notice take a title fight in Australia.

 

[WoozyFailGuy]

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Cliffs

Well I don’t make that call, but the problem is if you don’t step up and take fights you go into the pool,” Bareman explained. “That’s a fact. Nothing in this sport is solid until there’s something signed on the dotted line. If he’s got nothing signed on the dotted line, then he’s out there in the ether.”


He had a shot, it’s the same shot that many of my boys have had here, fought for titles or have had titles. You never, never, never – and we’ve fought with horrific injuries, because you don’t take that lightly. And the problem with them is, ‘I’ve had an injury’. And yeah, it’s been a bad injury. So what? You’ve taken your shot for granted, you think you’re gonna get it again? But you don’t know what this machine does. You don’t know the UFC, you don’t know what they do, you don’t know how they twist and turn things. Never feel comfortable with where you are. If there’s something in front of you that you’ve been working for your whole life, don’t think for a minute just like that. And he had it, and he let it slip. So they can’t be sitting comfortable thinking that they’ve got the next shot.”

Looks to me like they only wanted to fight DDP coming off an injury on short notice and want the UFC to pick someone else for next in line after Strickland despite DDP having the best wins of any current contender at MW. I don't see the point in making these comments otherwise. DDP dominated and KOed the number 1 contender.

I've been saying that DDP was a stylistic problem for Adesanya and it seems his coaches think similarly. He's bigger, stronger, and has an infinitely better ground game than Izzy, would look like the Jan fight in all likelihood with Israel just being overpowered while looking for the big shot all night that never comes.
DDP KO'd the same guy their boy KO'd for the title. Am I supposed to be impressed he's facing flat footed philly shell gatekeeper Strickland on short notice?
DDP next title fight or we riot.
The fight will happen, it's too good for expanding the African market not to.

 

[MRT]

I guess you can interpret it that way...or we can just accept Bareman's words at face value: people fight through injuries all the time and one's spot in the pecking order is never assured.

The classic case often cited from back in the day is Karo Parysian who pulled out from a title fight with Matt Hughes and never got another opportunity, despite winning his next fight and going 4-1 over five...but is that cautionary tale any less relevant today?

DDP might indeed still be next...or he might find himself needing to fight multiple times before getting a title shot. Think of how many variables are in play. His spot depends upon how Izzy-Strickland goes, whether the MMA trilogy with Alex happens (at 185 or 205), whether Khamzat enters the picture...

 

[Cptn1NSAN0]

I thought Izzy was ducking Khamzat but now he’s ducking DDP?

Haters please make a choice!

Khamzat has 0 ranked wins at 185, what are you talking about?

 

[Captain_Dammitt]

I didn't know Bareman was still fighting.

 

[SouthVanMMA]

If not DDP after Strickland then who ?
Maybe he will move up to 205 and fight with Poatan if Alex can get the title

 

[maximus__]

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Cliffs

Well I don’t make that call, but the problem is if you don’t step up and take fights you go into the pool,” Bareman explained. “That’s a fact. Nothing in this sport is solid until there’s something signed on the dotted line. If he’s got nothing signed on the dotted line, then he’s out there in the ether.”


He had a shot, it’s the same shot that many of my boys have had here, fought for titles or have had titles. You never, never, never – and we’ve fought with horrific injuries, because you don’t take that lightly. And the problem with them is, ‘I’ve had an injury’. And yeah, it’s been a bad injury. So what? You’ve taken your shot for granted, you think you’re gonna get it again? But you don’t know what this machine does. You don’t know the UFC, you don’t know what they do, you don’t know how they twist and turn things. Never feel comfortable with where you are. If there’s something in front of you that you’ve been working for your whole life, don’t think for a minute just like that. And he had it, and he let it slip. So they can’t be sitting comfortable thinking that they’ve got the next shot.”

Looks to me like they only wanted to fight DDP coming off an injury on short notice and want the UFC to pick someone else for next in line after Strickland despite DDP having the best wins of any current contender at MW. I don't see the point in making these comments otherwise. DDP dominated and KOed the number 1 contender.

Izzy has had a couple fights like this. Why the hell would you match 2 clear contenders with such a short turn around if Izzy was going to be on this card no matter what? Even if he wasn't injured, there was a good chance Driscus and Rob would have had a brutal fight and need some no contact time and been unable to put in a proper camp.

This Strickland fight is pointless though it wouldn't surprise me if Izzy looks average for some reason if Strickland does something besides his patter patter jab routine. Stricklands last 2 wins are #15 and unranked ,before that he lost to Cannonier. He doesn't deserve this fight and it's embarassing they will book it just because Strickland talks crap to Izzy.

 

[SeattleFightFan]

Izzy has had a couple fights like this. Why the hell would you match 2 clear contenders with such a short turn around if Izzy was going to be on this card no matter what? Even if he wasn't injured, there was a good chance Driscus and Rob would have had a brutal fight and need some no contact time and been unable to put in a proper camp.

This Strickland fight is pointless though it wouldn't surprise me if Izzy looks average for some reason if Strickland does something besides his patter patter jab routine. Stricklands last 2 wins are #15 and unranked ,before that he lost to Cannonier. He doesn't deserve this fight and it's embarassing they will book it just because Strickland talks crap to Izzy.

It is weird. Remember when Usman demanded a fight with Colby in 6 or 8 weeks, after declining for a year? And Colby asking for a bit more time? (EDIT: I may be misremembering this. There were so many stories and counter-stories around Usman and Colby and Masvidal and Edwards, I'm not confident I have my facts straight).

Sometimes I get there are extenuating circumstances. In this case, the event being in Sydney is an obvious one. But other times...what the fuck with the cherry picking a specific month, or else forget it?

Ultimately I blame the UFC for allowing it to happen, or continue.

 

[maximus__]

Bareman takes good care of his guys, he must see something there he needs additional time to prepare for.


On the feet, Izzy smokes DDP. He’s just too defensively sound. I think it’s that unpredictability and brute strength of DDP that might be the issue, if he somehow forces a takedown he can cause some damage with that aggressive GnP.

I think the concern would be that he just doesn't seem to go out fully when he is hurt.
DDP is just going to keep coming which is a nightmare for a technical striker like Izzy.
It's goes one of two ways, with Izzy styling on him or DDp overwhelming him.
I think Izzy matadors him in a boring 50-45

 

[maximus__]

It is weird. Remember when Usman demanded a fight with Colby in 6 or 8 weeks, after declining for a year? And Colby asking for a bit more time? (EDIT: I may be misremembering this. There were so many stories and counter-stories around Usman and Colby and Masvidal and Edwards, I'm not confident I have my facts straight).

Sometimes I get there are extenuating circumstances. In this case, the event being in Sydney is an obvious one. But other times...what the fuck with the cherry picking a specific month, or else forget it?

I do recall something like that with Usman and someone. He basically picked to fight someone who wouldn't even be able to have contact sparring for half the camp. It's the same around Islam and Abu dhabi for the Charles title fight when the belt got vacated due to the UFC scale issues.

Obviously they wanted Izzy on this card, but then why would you match the clear contenders so far out but so close to this fight? It kinda makes no sense unless you want to stack it for the champ. Besides Barreman comments, that on the UFC though, not Izzy.

 

[Reach Finesse]

Hope Khamzat smeshes Costa and skips ahead of DDP...just to see everybody triggered