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It all looks so performative also. That ghoul make up wasn't by accident imo, I think she wanted to look intimidating. A very weird person like all of them from that group.

well, I mean with MAGA and especially the monetised maga that aren't actually career politicians, performatism is pretty much the standard setting isn't it?

i'd say, even without the huge extra element of tragedy added into her life, EK's position is fraught with contradiction.I think the posts on this thread probably highlight an important paradox at the heart of EK's public role and that of any prominent MAGA woman- especially one like EK whose own husband publicly extolled the evils of women being educated, or having careers, or doing anything that actually gives them too much 'agency' outside the virtuous patriarchal control of their husbands

i don't know nearly enough about EK to say if she's intelligent or not but she at least doesn't seem unintelligent, so how has that squared with her own husband's public attitudes towards women in public life, his stated aversion to women having an education career, and so on?

i mean just for a start it makes me wonder how much either of them entirely bought into the schtick he peddled, if it was merely him peddling thinly-veiled misogyny under the imprimatur of a benevolent, religiously-justified patriarchy because misogyny sells in the RW sphere. Like was he just selling that schtick for the rubes without buying into it? or did she have to deal with that paradox of a husband who entirely belittled her right to participate in the public sphere?

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a combo of compartmentalisation and cognitive dissonance is the best case scenario. Complicit in mass manipulation at the worst. Hard to tell with the evangelical MAGA folks - a lot of them are looking for deeper meaning and do a bunch of mental gymnastics to justify their greater good reasoning

yeah this, it must just be weird as fuck being a maga woman, being front and centre and the warm, pious female mouthpiece of a movement that fundamentally denies your right to have a public role or worthwhile opinion, basically trotted out as window dressing if you happen to be aesthetically presentable enough but constantly having to listen to figures who are adjunct to your own leaders, or are thought-leaders themselves, talking about repealing the 19th Amendment and so on.

I believe everyone's favourite maga-woman-come-liberal, MTG, has spoken out on exactly this paradox, nobody had 'MTG as feminist backlash within maga' on their bingo card for 2025 I'm sure but this climate sure breeds strange bedfellows or fellow-travellers.

MTG of course also suffers from the fact that compared to most of the maga ladies, and even in the light of what passes for the acceptable look in those waters, she isn't conventionally aesthetically attractive**. Of course, there is a whole separate conversation to be had about why exactly almost every maga-adjunct woman mutilates their faces to a pretty much parodic degree. It's wild to say Melania actually probably has the most subtle and the least jarring look to her cosmetically altered face compared to the other maga ladies.

But you have to wonder just how much their self-image and self-worth being decimated by maga misogyny was exactly what lead to the constant desire/need to alter and find the 'perfect' facial look via surgical mutilation, in the first place. I can't see it as being entirely coincidental, I mean its more than just 'these women are in the public eye of course they take their appearance seriously', the maga women 'brand' is far more extreme than what passes for the Hollywood/media baseline of a 'standard' cosmetic look. I mean, its almost like its being done as some kind of penance or rite of passage, fucking self-mutilation as the price of entry, its definitely fucked-up and indicative of deeply-rooted mental issues and issues of self-worth IMO

currently it seems EK has either had no work done or very little work done to her face, i'll be interested to see if that remains the case. If her face never starts looking like generic maga lady I'd guess its a sign she is somehow managing to wrestle with the inherent paradox of her position relatively successfully.

I don't even know where I'm going with this, except i guess something about EK reminds me of an essay title on Gertrude in Hamlet 'A heart cleft in twain', IIRC the essay talks about the contradiction that she acts out and her complex moral dilemma and mixed loyalties, and that that complexity/contradiction kinda peaks through in the faultlines, so to speak. Thats kinda sorta how i feel about EK.


** although actually I'd do her above any of the ridiculous gargoyles who mutilated their faces, i mean yeah its a like 5/10 face card but i always kinda dug those short chunky bodies and the fact she can do pullups and muscle-ups is pretty hot too.
 
Oh please even a lot of right wingers are tired of her like Nick Fuentes.
I'm glad you and Nick Fuentes have found something you have in common.

Its pretty clear that your hate for her isn't rational and is grounded more in what she believes than her actions.

Like I can't imagine expecting my wife to go into seclusion and live a life of depression with my kids if something awful happened to me. That's really what you'd expect from your wife? Is your ego so fragile that you'd expect your wife's life to be over when yours is? And you're saying she's creepy?

Honestly, it'd be a better look for you if you just admitted you hate her because of what she stands for. You don't hide it well enough to pretend otherwise. If she wasn't a high profile conservative, you wouldn't even be talking about this. I'd go so far as to say you'd opine about her bravery if everything else were exactly the same but her views aligned with yours.
 
If you don't inherently sense "fake, superficial grifter" from even an eyeball test, not to mention actually hearing or seeing her speak since Kirk's death, then you're comically gullible or tribally conservative (probably both).
 
It's also a bit rich to see one of the most vile shitbags on the forum pretend to have a conscience because it's finally politically convenient, as if his act is fooling anyone.
Saying @Seano is one of the most vile shitbags on the forum is seriously reaching. I've never seen him say anything even half as bad as you and all the others dunking on Kirk and his wife since his assassination. Not even close.
 
It's also a bit rich to see one of the most vile shitbags on the forum pretend to have a conscience because it's finally politically convenient, as if his act is fooling anyone.


If you approved of anything I said, I'd have to do a serious reevaluation of my life and possibly seek psychiatric help. The leftist posters on this forum, like you, are some of the worst people I've ever encountered in my life, in person or on social media, no exaggeration.
 
LOL. Nice try. It was racist dog whistle. You know it. I know it.
The mere mention of gang violence being a "racist dog whistle" is one of the big problems that happens with a lot of people on the left. You're essentially criticizing someone as a racist based on your powers of mind reading. Its never what they say, its what theyre thinking, and of course, you know what theyre thinking more than anyone else does.
 
Saying @Seano is one of the most vile shitbags on the forum is seriously reaching. I've never seen him say anything even half as bad as you and all the others dunking on Kirk and his wife since his assassination. Not even close.
What does it say about Erika that Confudumbass here has mourned Charlie longer than she did?
 
Don't like Charlie Kirk. Haven't seen a legitimate reason yet to hate her though
 
What does it say about Erika that Confudumbass here has mourned Charlie longer than she did?
You should ask what it says about you that you think she needs to mourn in a way approved by some bitter cunt on a karate forum.
 
And you think finding a kinship with Nick Fuentes is a positive thing?
No but it goes to show that the right isn’t completely in agreement on this. There’s been a ton of criticism regarding how she’s been acting. To act like it’s only lefties attacking her is absurd.
 
The average person: Erika Kirk is weird, this whole thing is weird. 3.4 people on Sherdogg: Who are you the grieving police you can't judge!!1!11

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No one knows different types of grief but 3.4 people on Sherdogg.
 
Saying @Seano is one of the most vile shitbags on the forum is seriously reaching. I've never seen him say anything even half as bad as you and all the others dunking on Kirk and his wife since his assassination. Not even close.

Given that your definition of 'dunking on kirk' entails you censoring people quoting his own words, your compass is fucked up and entirely valueless as to what is beyond the pale on this subject.
 
What does it say about Erika that Confudumbass here has mourned Charlie longer than she did?

Nobody could possibly fall in love with a flesh and blood human being the way confucanmus fell in love with his fantasy version of St Charlie. The fact that he also fell head over heels with the grieving widow at the exact same time might strike some as, umm, psychologically interesting, certainly those who recently heard the phrase 'parasocial relationship'.
 
To me, I see probably the strongest, grieving widow that I've ever seen, bravely pushing to carry on her husband's legacy.

My girlfriend says she's a manipulating, fake, terrible actress who is trying to play on the emotions of the public. And that I can't tell because I am a simp who is easily emotionally manipulated by women and can't tell when they are faking or lying.

Obviously I think this is ridiculous but what are your thoughts on Erika?


Your girlfriend is correct
 
I'm glad you've been able to find some reason to hate this woman who's husbands was murdered. It'd be terrible if you had to be a decent human being for once in your life.


the rube mouthpiece was murdered you say? that would just be terrible. some would say that charlie kirk simply just lost the gun debate and succumbed to trump dicksucking syndrome. tots and pears go out to the grifting widow, err i mean greaving widow.

i mean afterall, dancing on the graves of murdered people is now a respectable practice for decent human beings, ain't that right seano?
 
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