Social Erika Kirk

You have to remember that Confucamus was one of the posters filling up my thread with the 'Tim Walz Associate' nonsense and running to Grok to try to prove he didn't vote for Trump
Oh that would explain his commitment to the idea that we can't know Boelter’s motive without a confession. The obvious issue is that there's probably even more doubt as to Tyler Robinson's motives. If he was calling for caution and emphasizing doubt in both cases that'd be one thing but of course that's not what we see from these people.
 
You asked for a source and I gave you two, just gonna ignore that it was widely reported and that you have no evidence to the contrary?
You didn't give any source saying Trump told him to stop talking about Epstein. Keep dancing around that though.

I guess its just a coincidence that Boelter had 45 Democrats and a bunch of abortion providers on his kill list but zero Republicans. After all murderers are known to be very honest people so we know Boelter would not lie here.
Ah yes. You know Boelter's motive better than he does, right?

Btw you never answered my question: what was Tyler Robinson's motive and how do you know?
His own texts to his boyfriend. Info from his parents. The FBI. Utah County prosecutor. You have some better sources than them?
 
You have to remember that Confucamus was one of the posters filling up my thread with the 'Tim Walz Associate' nonsense and running to Grok to try to prove he didn't vote for Trump
Never heard of you.
 
You didn't give any source saying Trump told him to stop talking about Epstein. Keep dancing around that though.
You asked for a source other than r/politics and I gave you two which you proceeded to dismiss.
Ah yes. You know Boelter's motive better than he does, right?
I don't accept his statements as the final word and dismiss the other relevant evidence as you do if that's what you're asking.

Do you think its a coincidence that an anti-abortion nutjob just happened to kill Democrats and happened to have a kill list of dozens of Democrats and abortion advocates but zero Republicans? Or do you think there might've been a political motivation with a partisan bent?
His own texts to his boyfriend. Info from his parents. The FBI. Utah County prosecutor. You have some better sources than them?
What are you saying is Tyler Robinson's motives and what evidence establishes that in your mind? If his parent's testimony and his texts are acceptable evidence in his case why isn't Boelter’s kill list and the testimony of a roommate legitimate in your eyes?
 
Everything I said applies only to how she grieves for her husband (e.g. how she acts about it in interviews, what she did at the service, etc.)

I never said no one couldn’t challenge her or her company’s thoughts and ideas politically.

I'm allowed to challenge the spectacle she's making of grieving in the sense that nobody but her needed to see her crouched over the casket doing her oscar worthy scene. That shit was pathetic and such an obvious portrayal of performative social media rot, akin to how those tiktokers take video or pictures of their dying grandmother at the hospital and post it to their feed for likes and comments.

When I see shit like that, I know I'm dealing with a person who wants to put on a show. Next.
 
You asked for a source other than r/politics and I gave you two which you proceeded to dismiss.
Because they didn't prove what you said.

I don't accept his statements as the final word and dismiss the other relevant evidence as you do if that's what you're asking.
If he said from jail "I worship Trump and I was killing pro-choice politicians.", would you still be dismissing what he said?

Do you think its a coincidence that an anti-abortion nutjob just happened to kill Democrats and happened to have a kill list of dozens of Democrats and abortion advocates but zero Republicans? Or do you think there might've been a political motivation with a partisan bent?
I think nobody knows for sure and and I'm not as much of a partisan sleaze bag like you to put together the "obvious" and present it as fact. It's going to trial numbnuts. That's when the facts come out. Not on this forum, when you need to use the Hortman's murder as a distraction.

What are you saying is Tyler Robinson's motives and what evidence establishes that in your mind? If his parent's testimony and his texts are acceptable evidence in his case why isn't Boelter’s kill list and the testimony of a roommate legitimate in your eyes?
You didn't answer my question.
 
Because they didn't prove what you said.
What did you expect, a transcript of the call? I gave you reputable sources that reported on it like you asked and now you're pouting because you can't face the fact that you're favorite little content creator was a regime stooge
If he said from jail "I worship Trump and I was killing pro-choice politicians.", would you still be dismissing what he said?
I'd evaluate it in light of the other evidence.
I think nobody knows for sure and and I'm not as much of a partisan sleaze bag like you to put together the "obvious" and present it as fact. It's going to trial numbnuts. That's when the facts come out. Not on this forum, when you need to use the Hortman's murder as a distraction.
We have enough facts to know he was a Right wing lunatic and a radical Christian and based off his kill list was targeting Democrats and abortion advocates and providers.
You didn't answer my question.
Why would I when you ignored mine?

What do you think Tyler Robinson's motive was and what evidence establishes that in your mind?

Cite your sources now because I'm certainly not taking you at your word.
 
I'm allowed to challenge the spectacle she's making of grieving in the sense that nobody but her needed to see her crouched over the casket doing her oscar worthy scene. That shit was pathetic and such an obvious portrayal of performative social media rot, akin to how those tiktokers take video or pictures of their dying grandmother at the hospital and post it to their feed for likes and comments.

When I see shit like that, I know I'm dealing with a person who wants to put on a show. Next.

I never said no one wasn't allowed to do it. You can do whatever you want. You don't need my permission.

I just won't because you never know - people act weird in bad circumstances. It was her husband being murdered in public and her life being destroyed - not mine.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't care. I'd rather err on the side of caution - it's not difficult to do. Loss affects everyone differently.

I'm definitely not defending any of her other views or what she stands for though.
 
What did you expect, a transcript of the call? I gave you reputable sources that reported on it like you asked and now you're pouting because you can't face the fact that you're favorite little content creator was a regime stooge
I expected you to back up your claims with facts. Not what you decided is "obvious." This isn't Junior High, bud.

I'd evaluate it in light of the other evidence.
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We have enough facts to know he was a Right wing lunatic and a radical Christian and based off his kill list was targeting Democrats and abortion advocates and providers.
Yet he himself says that wasn't the case. Strange this has to continuously be pointed out to you.

Why would I when you ignored mine?

What do you think Tyler Robinson's motive was and what evidence establishes that in your mind?

Cite your sources now because I'm certainly not taking you at your word.
Stop being a child. I already answered that. You can answer my question now though, otherwise we are done here.
 
I expected you to back up your claims with facts. Not what you decided is "obvious." This isn't Junior High, bud.
Which is what I did by citing relevant reporting which you didn't think existed which is why you've moved the goalpoats.
Yes I know, evaluating the totality of evidence instead of cherry picking isn't something you're used to.
Yet he himself says that wasn't the case. Strange this has to continuously be pointed out to you.
Strange that I don’t take a defendant in a murder case at his word when there's conflicting evidence? I know you're dumb but at this point you must be pretending right?
Stop being a child. I already answered that. You can answer my question now though, otherwise we are done here.
No you didn't, you haven't stated what exactly what you think his motive was nor cited relevant evidence. Feel free to prove me wrong by quoting the post.

You won't though because you know the trap I've set which is why you're running away. You can't argue that Tyler Robinson was motivated by partisanship without citing exactly the kind of evidence that suggests at least as much in the case of Vance Boelter.
 
How is he wrong?
Kozak asked "Do you know how many transgender Americans have been mass shooters over the last 10 years?", to which Kirk responded, "Too many". Kozak followed up with, "Do you know how many mass shooters there have been in America over the last 10 years?", and Kirk's last words before being shot were his reply, "Counting or not counting gang violence?", to which then Kozak said "Great", with Kirk being struck .
 
Which is what I did by citing relevant reporting which you didn't think existed which is why you've moved the goalpoats.
No, it isn't. You stated something that your sources didn't back up. That's all.

Yes I know, evaluating the totality of evidence instead of cherry picking isn't something you're used to.
First, that's not what you're doing. You're only considering evidence that gives you the story you need. Second, you are literally discounting the words of the two murderers we're discussing and putting your own assumptions above them. You don't really get to accuse anyone of cherry picking.

Strange that I don’t take a defendant in a murder case at his word when there's conflicting evidence? I know you're dumb but at this point you must be pretending right?
It's only conflicting to you because you're treating your opinion as fact.

No you didn't, you haven't stated what exactly what you think his motive was nor cited relevant evidence. Feel free to prove me wrong by quoting the post.

You won't though because you know the trap I've set which is why you're running away. You can't argue that Tyler Robinson was motivated by partisanship without citing exactly the kind of evidence that suggests at least as much in the case of Vance Boelter.
You're not distracting anybody with this self important drivel.

Here's where I both answered you and asked the very question you keep dodging. What answer have you come up with? No more dodging.
His own texts to his boyfriend. Info from his parents. The FBI. Utah County prosecutor. You have some better sources than them?
 
No, it isn't. You stated something that your sources didn't back up. That's all.
Did you read them? Here the excerpt from NYT
A month later on his podcast, Mr. Kirk pushed for the Trump administration to release its files on the sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, who had once been a friend of Mr. Trump’s. But then, after receiving a call from a plainly irritated president, he reversed himself, saying, “I’m done talking about Epstein for the time being.”
First, that's not what you're doing. You're only considering evidence that gives you the story you need. Second, you are literally discounting the words of the two murderers we're discussing and putting your own assumptions above them. You don't really get to accuse anyone of cherry picking.
I'm pointing to evidence like Boelter’s kill list, personal testimony from a roommate, and his history. When a defendant in a murder trial gives testimony that contradicts other evidence its natural to take that testimony Werth a grain of salt.
It's only conflicting to you because you're treating your opinion as fact.
I'll ask again since you didn't answer before; do you deny the existence of the reported kill list that mentions dozens of Democrats and zero Republicans? If you don't deny it exists, do you admit it's relevant to ascertaining his motive?
You're not distracting anybody with this self important drivel.

Here's where I both answered you and asked the very question you keep dodging. What answer have you come up with? No more dodging.
You don't mention a motive there, you vaguely gesture at kinds of evidence without citing any sources to back up your claim. To use your words, "This isn't Junior High, bud" so cite your claims and explain yourself clearly.
 
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Did you read them? Here the excerpt from NYT
Yup I read them. I guess you don't have a source on what Trump actually said though, which is the lie you kept pushing.

I'm pointing to evidence like Boelter’s kill list, personal testimony from a roommate, and his history. When a defendant in a murder trial gives testimony that contradicts other evidence its natural to take that testimony Werth a grain of salt.
We're not in trial and we don't have all the evidence. With the evidence we do have, hit doesn't outweigh what the guy said with his own mouth. Could he be lying? Of course. We don't know anything of sure. My point is you are stating something as fact but it turns out to be your assumption more than anything.

I'll ask again since you didn't answer before; do you deny the existence of the reported kill list that mentions dozens of Democrats and zero Republicans? If you don't deny it exists, do you admit it's relevant to ascertaining his motive?
How can I deny something that's a fact? We know he had a list. You are choosing to come to a conclusion that suits you though. One that is already proven wrong by Boelter's own words.

You don't mention a motive there, you vaguely gesture at kinds of evidence without citing any sources to back up your claim. To use your words, "This isn't Junior High, bud" so cite your claims and explain yourself clearly.
lol Those are sources I gave. I asked you if you had better sources. You are continuing to dodge that question, so we are done here. It really only took a tiny bit of scrutiny for all of your "facts" to fall completely apart and now you're just playing games. With both cases, we've found you are stating your opinion as fact and ignoring evidence that doesn't give you what you want. I gave you a lot of chances to elaborate, but it's clear you want to drag this into a circular conversation where you distract and don't actually look at evidence in an objective way.
 
I finally watched that absurd Town Hall with Erika Kirk and The Bride of Chucky is even worse than I initially thought.

A Jewish man who cant pronounce "intifada" asks her about antisemitism and what does she do? She evangelizes to him in her passionless monotone manner. She just does not come off as genuine in any way, and is spending 90% of her time trying to sanitize Kirk's image as if he was Israel's greatest ally and it totally comes off as if some Evangelical group is giving her a lot of money to do so.

I feel bad for the kids because they didn't choose their parents, but at this point of all her media touring, she is drawing the scrutiny she's getting.
 
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