Social Erika Kirk

[fedoriswar37]

She's a rocket. Thats my only opinion on her.

 

[JoeyJoeJoeJr]

When did either of them say she was apart of it? Can you refute any of the claims they did make or are you just talking emotionally?

She has insinuated multiple times that Erika is involved and knows the truth. She won't openly say Erika was in on it, she just insinuates it, because she has no proof.

Erika already replied to that and told her to stop in an interview that airs today. Candace said that if Erika told her to stop, she would. Erika told her to stop, directly, but she wants to continue her grift, and now Candace says she won't stop.

Candace attention whore Owen's is a disgraceful low iq idiot. Nothing she says can be proven, it's just wild conspiracy theories with the storytelling ability of Jessie Smollett. Anyone with a working brain knows exactly what she's doing.

You have to actually be stupid to buy into her retarded ass story. The Trump administration, Israel, Egypt, Turning point USA, people in maroon shirts, second shooters. She's playing stupid people.

 

[Hog-train]

Both sides are grifting the fuck out of Charlie Kirk's death.

1. The Conservatives are way overstating how influential he was. They're talking about him like he was some revolutionary Jesus-like figure like MLK. When in reality, he was just a conservative "debate me bro" that went to schools and made a fool out of retarded college students.

He was just a more popular Steven Crowder. The conservatives are milking the shit out of his death.

2. The Liberals are painting him as this uniquely evil, fascist like character and misrepresenting what he actually said. Tiktok brain. The progressives IMMEDIATELY automatically believed it was some white Nationalist Groyper that killed him, but STFU real quick when it came out it was some tranny retard.

In reality, most of his views are pretty much standard Republican and conservative - against abortion, against affirmative action, pro deportation, etc.

I will say though, the woke progressives have no leg to stand on constantly being all self righteous and thinking they're on some moral high ground.

When he was killed, their gleeful reaction was objectively fucking disgusting.

YOU are the bad guy when you're laughing and dancing and posting to social media when someone gets shot right in the neck in front of our eyes.

STFU lecturing people about morality when you're doing shit like that.

Candace attention whore Owen's is a disgraceful low iq idiot. Nothing she says can be proven, its just wild conspiracy theories with the storytelling ability of Jessie smullett. Anyone with a working brain knows exactly what shes doing.

You have to actually be stupid to buy into her retarded ass story. The Trump administration, Israel, Egypt turning point USA, people in maroon shirts, second shooters. She's playing stupid people.

Candance Owen is a no morals grifter that will do anything for clicks. She's getting a lot of views and that's why she's saying all this shit.

She claims she was one of his best friends yet is cynically using him for views.

 

[Prefect]

Agree with him or not, Charlie Kirk pushed the idea of open debate and the free exchange of ideas. He also brought receipts for every one of his points and never used a laptop or notes. These two things are what many on the left hate the most and they are the ones who celebrated the hardest after Kirk was murdered. Dunking on Erika Kirk is just an extension of that same inferiority complex.

Look at that shit stain Ilhan Omar. She only wants to trash Kirk now that he's dead. When he was alive, you wouldn't see her ugly cowardly ass attack him like that, and you know why? Because Kirk would have invited her to have a rational debate anywhere, anytime. She knows he would have wiped his ass with her too. She's safe from that now, which is why she crawled out of the sewer and began trashing him days after he was murdered.

Kirk never pushed the idea of open debate or free exchange of ideas and he straight up made up a lot of bullshit. What you see is on youtube is just a highlight reel. It would be just like only looking at Jerry Stackhouse's highlight reel and think he was the next Jordan but if you watched his the full games, he was doing good to ever make an all-star game. Charlie Kirk was just good at using dirty debate tricks and is completely befuddled when someone doesn't fall for them or they start using the same logic tricks on him. He never ever truly did honest debating.

 

[Islam Imamate]

2. The Liberals are painting him as this uniquely evil, fascist like character and misrepresenting what he actually said. Tiktok brain. The progressives IMMEDIATELY automatically believed it was some white Nationalist Groyper that killed him, but STFU real quick when it came out it was some tranny retard.

In reality, most of his views are pretty much standard Republican and conservative - against abortion, against affirmative action, pro deportation, etc.

Kirk supported Stop the Steal to include bussing fellow agitators to the Capitol including one who pleaded guilty to assault. He was a right wrong equivalent of a paid Soros agitator except he actually existed so yes he was uniquely bad, perfectly to think "fuck that guy"

 

[Hog-train]

Kirk supported Stop the Steal to include bussing fellow agitators to the Capitol including who pleaded guilty to assault. He was a right wrong equivalent of a paid Soros agitator except he actually existed so yes he was uniquely bad, perfectly to think "fuck that guy"

So he deserved to be shot in the neck and to have people dancing on his grave. Yea they're not the good guys.

Look at this supposed educated Oxford union President who debated and met him.. then weeks later he celebrates his assassination.. says a lot about his character.

Then he makes excuses after he got heavy criticism. Super inauthentic and tells you what kind of person he is.

 

[Islam Imamate]

So he deserved to be shot in the neck and to have people dancing on his grave.

I never said that, no one deserves to be murdered in that way for political speech no matter how odious their speech.

Just saying we shouldn't pretend he wasn't deeply divisive and that you can't expect someone who was a partisan shitbag to get a bipartisan moment of silence.

 

[Hog-train]

I never said that, no one deserves to be murdered in that way for political speech no matter how odious their speech.

Just saying we shouldn't pretend he wasn't deeply divisive and that you can't expect someone who was a partisan shitbag to get a bipartisan moment of silence.

He considered "deeply divisive" only because he's more effective at reaching younger voters. The content of what he's saying is the same exact shit Fox News boomers have been saying for decades.

He's not this Hitlerian figure the progressive left says he is. Ridiculous hyperbole.

 

[DoctorTaco]

The content of what he's saying is the same exact shit Fox News boomers have been saying for decades.

the shit Fox News boomers have herb dating for decades is also deeply divisive.

 

[Islam Imamate]

He considered "deeply divisive" only because he's more effective at reaching younger voters. The content of what he's saying is the same exact shit Fox News boomers have been saying for decades.

Are you just going to ignore the fact that he supported Stop the Steal and bussed agitators to the Capitol? That's not typical conservative stuff, that's the approach of a lucratively paid political operative

He's not this Hitlerian figure the progressive left says he is. Ridiculous hyperbole.

He wasn't Hitler but he was a partisan shitbag who dedicated his life to reactionary agitprop, why would you expect a bipartisan moment of silence for someone like that? If Destiny got killed in the same way you don't think people on the right might react in a similar manner?

 

[Bob Gray]

Seems to me most of the hate is coming from the right, she's at the center of a civil war and my YouTube feed has been buried by conservative influencers calling her the devil. Sincere question, do you not watch a lot of conservative media, or any of the extreme stuff? My algorithm has cancer, I've never been hit by so much far right stuff before. In the last few days I've been sent multiple videos denying the party switch happened, descriptions of white IQ superiority, stuff I wouldn't have thought people said out loud any more.

Conservative media is following me everywhere. I watched Nefarious this afternoon because I like Sean Patrick Flanery; turns out it was a Christian horror film and the last actor introduced in the film was Glen Beck. Yes, THAT one, not the Canadian actor. I had no idea Flanery was a 4th dan BJJ black belt, he was great in this excellent scene from an otherwise mediocre film.

I don't think I've said anything about Erika Kirk at all other than mentioning she was strong and compelling at her husband's eulogy and acknowledging she'd be a force for years to come. I didn't know anything about her and had no reason to attack a recent widow and mother of young children. If down the road she ends up being a hate monger like her husband that will change.

Yeah, it both sides sure, I didnt single out one side or the other. In my personal anecdotal experience, progressives are far more hateful of opposing opinions and those who hold them, though.

I dont know what you mean by extreme? Like I know nothing about Nick Fuentes other than his reputation, but his appearance on Piers Morgan has gained a lot of traction so I'll probably watch that at some point. I have no idea what that will do to my algorithm. I kind of go in cycles because theres certain topics I sort of go all in on one at a time. Like now Im interested in debates about morality and how rooted it is in objective criteria, and Im not a religious guy but Andrew Wilson is coming up a lot because even though hes a giant prick he makes a lot of solid arguments. I hate his style of laughing at the other person , though, but when he does stuff like debate-con it can be a lot more professional and he's arguing against people a lot more capable. Depending on the person I might check out a few minutes of Jubilee and when I do that I start getting a lot more left leaning stuff filtered my way. But I feel like their smaller, group on group debates are a lot more interesting in general. Then, after awhile, suddenly I'm being bombarded with National Geographic stuff because I was checking out vids of crocodiles. So everything just kind of runs its course.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

To me, I see probably the strongest, grieving widow that I've ever seen, bravely pushing to carry on her husband's legacy.

My girlfriend says she's a manipulating, fake, terrible actress who is trying to play on the emotions of the public. And that I can't tell because I am a simp who is easily emotionally manipulated by women and can't tell when they are faking or lying.

I have the most bizarre analogy ever for this situation.

Have you ever seen Saw? The 2004 horror movie? The very first in the now series of ten movies?

I recall a friend of mine after watching it said "In the finale Cary Elwes completely over-acted."

And I replied "He believed his mother and daughter were being murdered, and he had to sell the mental duress of a man who's going to use a rusty handsaw to amputate his own foot."


Now, with Erika Kirk if someone I knew had said "She's a terrible actress." I would reply...

"Her husband, the love of her life and father to their two daughters, was murdered in front of thousands of people and it was the most viral moment of the year. There's millions of people on the internet saying he deserved it or say she was involved with the conspiracy to have him murdered.

Then, with little public speaking or media experience... She has to be the face of the organization her husband built over 10 years or it may collapse under his absence.

And she's still raising her two daughters, who are barely an age they can comprehend why daddy isn't around anymore."

It really is surprising how people have developed a complete lack of empathy.

 

[GoshiShun17]

I have the most bizarre analogy ever for this situation.

Have you ever seen Saw? The 2004 horror movie? The very first in the now series of ten movies?

I recall a friend of mine after watching it said "In the finale Cary Elwes completely over-acted."

And I replied "He believed his mother and daughter were being murdered, and he had to sell the mental duress of a man who's going to use a rusty handsaw to amputate his own foot."


Now, with Erika Kirk if someone I knew had said "She's a terrible actress." I would reply...

"Her husband, the love of her life and father to their two daughters, was murdered in front of thousands of people and it was the most viral moment of the year. There's millions of people on the internet saying he deserved it or say she was involved with the conspiracy to have him murdered.

Then, with little public speaking or media experience... She has to be the face of the organization her husband built over 10 years or it may collapse under his absence.

And she's still raising her two daughters, who are barely an age they can comprehend why daddy isn't around anymore."

It really is surprising how people have developed a complete lack of empathy.

Here lies the fallacy in what you are saying. I have no doubt that most normal people either want to or they already are having empathy for her.

Immediately after Charlie was shot I was saddened and thought "damn he has a young family at home". My thoughts automatically went to them.

But Charlie is not the first husband/father to be murdered. And after a murder, often times the people closest to the victim have to come under the scope.

We have seen it time and time again. Why should Erika or more importantly "her family" AKA her business partners at TPUSA be an exception??? There have been countless cases where spouses jump right in front of the camera boohooing and end up being found guilty down the line. Other cases we have witnessed, the spouse gets off scott free and the public forever scrutinizes the investigators.

I was very uncomfortable with the way some in society reacted to Charlie's execution. But the moment I saw his wife's first reaction it just screamed phony to me. But obviously that was just a feeling. And although others may have had the same feeling, that alone meant nothing.

But the more verifiable facts and information that comes out about her past, the wierder she seems. And I see most of you say you know nothing about her. So many of you are responding from purely an emotional and empathetic standpoint.

 

[Confucamus]

I didn't really watch his stuff so idk that it bothered me at the time but the point was absolutely to farm clips that play to negative partisanship.

And you believe that because these very clips you're talking about are the only thing you've ever seen of him, as you've just admitted. That kinda erases any credibility you have to when attempting to make an informed point about Kirk and his beliefs. He did a hell of a lot more than viral clips with college kids. That's not opinion either. It's a fact. You can choose to believe what you want, but you're purposely only consuming information that feeds your bias.

I know he was one of your favorite influencers and so you want to frame his work as having some special significance but at the end of the day what he did was engage in relentless agitprop.

300,000 people would not have shown up in person to his memorial if what you said was true. The memorial would not have been viewed over 100 million times online if what you said was true. Dozens of memorials popping up worldwide, with thousands in attendance at most of them, would not have happened if what you said was true. If you want to brush aside those facts and hold firm that he was some insignificant debate-bro, then that's on you. It just doesn't have much behind it at all.

 

[Unknown Pleasures]

It's not common because it's not very effective or useful.

Hate this guy but he does it more than most.

Probably just sheer coincidence, but in this video there's a guy with a Charlie Kirk shirt, and in your later post on the anti-vaxxers vs. the Doctor Mike there's a lady with a Charlie Kirk shirt.

Both of them seem incredibly stupid. Not like random person off street with below average IQ stupid, but monumentally stupid. I do suspect most of his support comes from the poorest educated segments of society with incredibly poor critical thinking skills, and Charlie Kirk was relatively intelligent for that crowd. I also suspect that the right-wing grifter pundits that have huge followers also have no issue with talking shit about dead Charlie and him being a closet homosexual because they know this same group of folks largely won't care what they say since they are more concerned about propaganda in their social media algos.

But honestly, guys like Doctor Mike that actually have expertise and done their homework and are just totally embarrassing these people with extremely basic points must really be bottling up how they feel to be polite to this crowd of poorly educated people who legit think their "I saw a youtube video once" as foundation for their knowledge that they believe eclipses everyone and everything else.

 

[The_Renaissance]

I never said that, no one deserves to be murdered in that way for political speech no matter how odious their speech.

Just saying we shouldn't pretend he wasn't deeply divisive and that you can't expect someone who was a partisan shitbag to get a bipartisan moment of silence.

He held the same views as your religious text, your prophet and everyone living in the countries that follow your religion. Are you saying they hold odious views that they verbalise, too?

 

[Islam Imamate]

And you believe that because these very clips you're talking about are the only thing you've ever seen of him, as you've just admitted. That kinda erases any credibility you have to when attempting to make an informed point about Kirk and his beliefs. He did a hell of a lot more than viral clips with college kids. That's not opinion either. It's a fact. You can choose to believe what you want, but you're purposely only consuming information that feeds your bias.

Yes I know he had a podcast where he spoke about wanting public executions with kids in attendance and how Mike Pence should've stole the election for Trump, doesn't really make him come off much better

300,000 people would not have shown up in person to his memorial if what you said was true. The memorial would not have been viewed over 100 million times online if what you said was true. Dozens of memorials popping up worldwide, with thousands in attendance at most of them, would not have happened if what you said was true. If you want to brush aside those facts and hold firm that he was some insignificant debate-bro, then that's on you. It just doesn't have much behind it at all.

The real number was about a third of that, closer to 90k-100k

About 90,000 to 100,000 people were in attendance for Charlie Kirk’s memorial, according to a Glendale police estimate.
Bryan Hoskin, a spokesperson for the department, said the stadium had 70,000 attendees. Another 10,000 people were seated inside the overflow venue, Desert Diamond Arena, and another 10,000 were estimated to be outside in the Westgate Entertainment District.

And the only speakers who were there were MAGA

His death drew immediate bipartisan condemnation. Even so, the memorial service roster of speakers included only Trump loyalists.

Can't say I'm surprised that a MAGA dipshit is lying about crowd sizes though, very on brand for you.

 

[Islam Imamate]

He held the same views as your religious text, your prophet and everyone living in the countries that follow your religion. Are you saying they hold odious views that they verbalise, too?

Where in the Qur'an does it say that the 2020 US presidential election was stolen?

 

[Anewt]

Where in the Qur'an does it say that the 2020 US presidential election was stolen?

.......

Like thats the worst thing in those books lol

 

[Confucamus]

Yes I know he had a podcast where he spoke about wanting public executions with kids in attendance and how Mike Pence should've stole the election for Trump, doesn't really make him come off much better

Nothing would make him come off better to you, because you already have what you need. The positive things he did and said far outweigh any quotes you can cobble together, with or without context. But you wouldn't know this because you're only believing what you're told to believe.

The real number was about a third of that, closer to 90k-100k

Let's say that's true, that still supports what I said. They needed a fucking overflow stadium for the amount of people who showed up to mourn a mid tier debate bro, huh?

And the only speakers who were there were MAGA

As opposed to who? The progressives who celebrated his murder en masse? The Democrats who refused to condemn political violence in the wake of his murder? Please tell us, who was left out?

Can't say I'm surprised that a MAGA dipshit is lying about crowd sizes though, very on brand for you.

That's what was being reported at the time you insecure little twerp. Fine by me if it wasn't that many. Again, my point stands even if we go with the numbers you posted. Good luck getting even half that to show up for any political activist on your side of the aisle.