Eastern fighters are different

[Captain Insano]

Ankalaev's dominant hugfest doesn't put him in the ranks of Loma or Usyk ffs.

 

[kneebartotheface]

It's what happens when your poor

And not I doctrinated to be soys from birth.

Edit:
The GDP is Dagestan was 13.3 billion in 2022 lmao.

Poor is a choice brah.

Additional edit.
GDP per capita is 3.3k USD.
That's what makes in a fortnight... Damn

 

[Mujeriego]

Let's be honest. These crazy Russians, gerorgians, Ukrainians etc are a different gravy

It isn't just mma. Look at usyk, bivol, beterbiev and lomachenko more recently.

Japan has 2 of the top 10 p4p boxers in the world right now and like 10 world champs lmao. Latinos and African Americans were never superior to the rest of the world in boxing, the market and promotions/promoters all just exist for the western world. It's why guys like Khaosai Galaxy and Chris John just got ignored their entire title runs...They wouldn't pay them shit to fight in the US, nobody cared about them in the western world because they weren't Spanish or English speaking and they made millions filling up arenas in their home countries while guys avoided them. Boxing is crooked, MMA is also kinda crooked like this but people don't realize...there's so much elite talent that doesn't get signed because they're from the wrong countries. When the iron curtain fell and guys in Russia, the Caucasus and Eastern Europe could box along with central Asians...yup, the Americas don't look so untouchable all of a sudden. UK boxing is shockingly good though, to be honest.

Mexicos won more championships than any other country in the last 35 years and 2nd for most all time.
America is obviously number 1 all time but in the last 4 decades its Mexico.

 

[TRYHARD 2001]

Well, it's not like this is something new, really. Russia has been pumping out beasts for as long as MMA has existed, particularly at HW. The Dagestanis have been a force at the lighter weights for a decade or so. The various "Stans" are a newer addition to the mix for sure, but in the immortal words of Igor Vovchanchyn when a reporter made the remark that Russians seemed to be tougher fighters compared to Americans and the west (I'm paraphrasing a bit here).

"Honestly, it's the same. It just looks that way because you only get to see our best fighters."

Food for thought...

 

[Don Hendason]

What major combat sports does China excel at? Wrestling, freestyle or greco? Boxing? Muay Thai? Sambo? Judo? Kickboxing? BJJ? No Gi?

Yeah China has invested in boxing for the last two decades or so and still they yield very little talent, but they do definitely yield some professionally and have gotten some Olympic medals. K-1 has largely been a joke as far as Kickboxing goes for years now so again, that's not saying much. And I just disregard women's MMA, its not really a sport, we are talking a pathetically shallow talent pool.

You asked what combat sports China excels at and I listed some of their champions. And your response is that you just disregard them because you think it's a joke or not a real sport. Weird logic.

 

[Robbocop]

Fighters from China, Japan, Korea classic Eastern countries have generally underperformed in the UFC although there have been some great fighters from those countries. Recently, fighters from Dagestan and Georgia have enjoyed a lot of success in the UFC. In general all I'm trying to say is using the term "Eastern fighters" refers to way more places than Russia, Dagestan, Georgia, Ukraine.

 

[Paolo Delutis]

Naw..

There just people...they have two arms, two legs, one heart and bleed red just like everyone else..

Theres just less distractions and options there but someone from here(west) can accomplish the same thing...just takes more concentrated power of will...

 

[JustforBROCK]

you don't have a single person in those countries acting like a fruitcake like you do in north america

What fucking eastern Euro crack are you smoking?

 

[Dionysian]

It's because those parts of the world have NOTHING going for them. These guys only have one way out of the nightmares that their countries are. Fighting.

I'm not talking about the 'people' in those parts of the world. They're actually quite nice. Every person I've met from a former Soviet Bloc country has been a gentleman.

Those parts of the world are run by the scum of the Earth, though. You can't get anything done in Azerbaijan without petitioning the ruling family directly. The same goes for Chechnya, Khazakhstan, Uzbekistan, etc. etc. They're steeped in the worst kinds of corruption.

This was talked about in Creed II. There's a reason why that part of the world produces so many killers.

They don't have a choice:



It's the same thing that was true for Black Americans for a VERY long time. Boxing still has a large Black fanbase because Boxing was one of the only ways out of violent inner city ghettos. Still is, actually.

Not that you are necessarily wrong about the corruption angle but I chuckled at you citing a fictional movie (a Rocky one no less) for your evidence of that systemic political corruption.

 

[paulchozick]

Let's be honest. These crazy Russians, gerorgians, Ukrainians etc are a different gravy

It isn't just mma. Look at usyk, bivol, beterbiev and lomachenko more recently. These dudes have a mentality that is tougher than the rest. It's like it's in their dna. The States and Brazil are still great fighting countries. Also the uk/Ireland and new Zealand/Australia, but these eastern European dudes are just built different. I expect many more champions in combat sports from this region in the near future

So, their 'mentality' is in the DNA? but, not their physicality????? and bone/muscle density???

 

[Lycandroid]

What fucking eastern Euro crack are you smoking?

the gays over there act like normal people, not performative clowns. They still act like men. Masculinity isn't demonized in the slightest.