Early UFC #219 Buys

[JonesBones]

For those wondering
As most know, Dave's final numbers are aligned with what UFC legally files & sends to share holders.
Also Dave had MayMac at early to mid 4m, while SHO said higher & then the number came in at 4.3

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So let's see something more than second hand accounts. There is no verification of anything.

 

[OriginMMA]

I feel like if you surveyed casuals they'd be much more aware of Holly because of the Ronda fight than Khabib.

Holly is a forgotten woman after being like 1-4 in her last 5 or something.

 

[ArtOfDrowning]

Not bad for a kinda weak PPV and belt in a division that doesn't exist.

Cyborg >>>> Might Mouse when it comes to PPV sales.

 

[2GunTommy]

yup!! me and u are the same except that i will NOT buy a card unless there are at least 3 fights that get me excited!!! fuckkkk that!! although im not gonna lie, i most likely will pay for ufc 220 even tho there are only two fights i want to see.

If francis can ko stipe in the first round, i am totally fucked because i can see myelf paying for every ppv that francis is on thereafter even if he is the only good fight on the card and thats not good lol.

with all that being said, i see stipe beating francis.

Haha when there's only 1 or 2 fights I like, I've been content with getting the play by play here on Sherdog.

 

[wake_me]

Holly is a forgotten woman after being like 1-4 in her last 5 or something.

You honestly think casuals are more aware of Khabib than Holly?

I like Khabib bruh...but come on...Where exactly would they hear about him?

 

[brian]

Lol@holly holm being the reason for the ppv buys, Holly holm headlined a ppv in 2017 guys & it did absolutely garbage. Cyborg + Khabib were the stars & the UFC does good business with either being the headliner in 2018.

 

[Bonos]

Crazy what Ronda's last fight did. Can anyone list all the 2017 estimates...im lazy lol

 

[surgeyou1]

Crazy that 350k is seen as a good buyrate now. Shit was below average more than a decade ago.

 

[Jopious Extronimous]

From just talking to casual viewers I gotta credit this to Khabib.

"Who's that russian dude that Conor's afraid of/who's the russian dude that nobody can beat" was a recurring question before this PPV.

 

[FrankieNYC]

Lol@holly holm being the reason for the ppv buys, Holly holm headlined a ppv in 2017 guys & it did absolutely garbage. Cyborg + Khabib were the stars & the UFC does good business with either being the headliner in 2018.

I get thinking that way
But do you think Mayweather is a draw?
Because in-between Maypac & MayMac he did 400k
That is 9% of what he did with Conor & Pac

The hype for the fight was "Could Holly do it again?"
The match-up made both Holly & cyborg better draws
Casuals know Holly. So with the right match-up she will do better

 

[brian]

You honestly think casuals are more aware of Khabib than Holly?

I like Khabib bruh...but come on...Where exactly would they hear about him?

I get thinking that way
But do you think Mayweather is a draw?
Because in-between Maypac & MayMac he did 400k
That is 9% of what he did with Conor & Pac

The hype for the fight was "Could Holly do it again?"
The match-up made both Holly & cyborg better draws
Casuals know Holly. So with the right match-up she will do better

That Mayweather argument doesn't play, the reason mayweather did so poorly in that Berto fight was more due to the fact that everybody felt cheated in the MayPac fight & the media turned on him as well. After that type of disappointment is why Mayweather did soo poorly in ppv buys vs Berto. Of course matchup matters but your floor should still be higher than 150k or whatever Holly sold vs Valentina in 2017. Also without that successful press tour no way Mcgregor vs Mayweather does over 3mill buys, so much casuals bought it just from the hype of all the interviews & press conferences.

 

[FrankieNYC]

That Mayweather argument doesn't play

What argument?
Nobody is arguing? lol

I pointed out a fact
You cannot just judge a draw on a last fight alone
Many factors play into a PPV interest
You pretty much backed that up by the rest of your paragraph

 

[Gangstub]

Google trends Cyborg, Holm and Nurmy in the USA

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How does this not have more likes?

 

[FrankieNYC]

From just talking to casual viewers I gotta credit this to Khabib.

"Who's that russian dude that Conor's afraid of/who's the russian dude that nobody can beat" was a recurring question before this PPV.

Did they buy the PPV?

 

[Jopious Extronimous]

Did they buy the PPV?

The only 2 I've talked to since are pretty regular buyers when the card is good, and 1 friend said he caught that fight at a bar while getting shitfaced. But all of them are well aware of who Khabib is. I haven't talked to the people who didn't know of him again yet. They're regular customers who are about as casual as it gets in terms of fandom. Except one girl who I thought was way into it, somehow knew who Doo Ho was but didn't know almost anything about Khabib. That confused the shit out of me.

The one guy Ikaika(sp) who's a regular buyer I wasn't expecting to buy the card though, he's way more into the heavier weightclasses or quietly stacked cards. But he got this one and it definitely wasn't for the girls.

Nothing amazing but I'm still pretty surprised at the interest he's drawing from people I talk to. I think because he's undefeated and his style is such a contrast to Conor's without being that boring, people are seeing him as a real challenge to Conor. And his performance against Barboza was exactly what he needed to further that.

Personally I hate every bit of it because I can't stand the fucker and wanted Barboza to knee his head into the crowd during a TD attempt. But I think if he keeps up what he's doing he's gonna be able to do a pretty big fight with Conor. If he does to Tony what he did to Barboza and they seriously look at doing the fight in Russia, I think Conor comes back for it.

 

[Myrddin Wild]

From Dave Meltzer's audio:
Looks like it did a lot better then expected
Early numbers from a few distributors have it on track to be about 350k or over

Remember a lot more distributors have to release numbers so it can go up/down, but as of now it is in trending in the 350k range

How the heck did they draw that?

Holm vs. De Randeme did 200k
Cyborg was on 198 & it only did 217k...

It's hard to tell how much of a draw Cyborg is, because she was on Fox & then on with DC vs. Jones. Granted she did headline this one... but I have a hard time believing that they drew this much on their own merits. Maybe the Eagle is getting more attention. I don't know... i gotta think People were in New Year's party mode & the UFC is a good centerpiece for a party. I think that has a lot to do with it.

Good point on "can Holly do it again" though.

 

[007]

3 fiddy is what I predicted

 

[Myrddin Wild]

@FrankieNYC was this the lowest year end ppv event by the ufc in recent years?

Great question. Here'z the Data

New Year'z Events

12/30/06 UFC 66 Liddell v. Ortiz II 1,050,000
12/29/07 UFC 79 GSP v. Hughes III 700,000
12/27/08 UFC 92 Griffin v. Evans 1,050,000
01/02/10 UFC 108 Evans vs. Silva 275,000
01/01/11 UFC 125 Edgar vs. Maynard II 270,000
12/31/11 UFC 141 Lesnar vs. Overeem 535,000
12/29/12 UFC 155 JDS vs. Velasquez II 590,000
12/28/13 UFC 168 Weidman vs Silva II 1,025,000
01/03/15 UFC 182 Jones vs Cormier 800,000
01/02/16 UFC 195 Lawler vs Condit 300,000
12/30/16 UFC 207 Nunes vs. Rousey 1,100,000
12/30/17 UFC 219 Cyborg vs. Holm 350,000 early est.

Ever since the big UFC 66 New Years event that kicked off their New Years trend... (and interestingly was also their first 7 figure PPV event ever) they have had 4 events in this range including this year.

195 was stacked the same way as this year... 2 average draw Main & Co-main... & not much else on the card for drawing power.

@FrankieNYC

 

[peterparker66]

Great question. Here'z the Data

New Year'z Events

12/30/06 UFC 66 Liddell v. Ortiz II 1,050,000
12/29/07 UFC 79 GSP v. Hughes III 700,000
12/27/08 UFC 92 Griffin v. Evans 1,050,000
01/02/10 UFC 108 Evans vs. Silva 275,000
01/01/11 UFC 125 Edgar vs. Maynard II 270,000
12/31/11 UFC 141 Lesnar vs. Overeem 535,000
12/29/12 UFC 155 JDS vs. Velasquez II 590,000
12/28/13 UFC 168 Weidman vs Silva II 1,025,000
01/03/15 UFC 182 Jones vs Cormier 800,000
01/02/16 UFC 195 Lawler vs Condit 300,000
12/30/16 UFC 207 Nunes vs. Rousey 1,100,000
12/30/17 UFC 219 Cyborg vs. Holm 350,000 early est.

Ever since the big UFC 66 New Years event that kicked off their New Years trend... (and interestingly was also their first 7 figure PPV event ever) they have had 4 events in this range including this year.

195 was stacked the same way as this year... 2 average draw Main & Co-main... & not much else on the card for drawing power.

@FrankieNYC

Thanks
interesting , without going back and seeing what was on each card i'm a little disappointed 195 and 125 didn't do good numbers as both main events were great IMO worth the money right there .

 

[Myrddin Wild]

Crazy what Ronda's last fight did. Can anyone list all the 2017 estimates...im lazy lol

02/11/17 UFC 208 Holm vs. de Randamie 200,000
03/04/17 UFC 209 Woodley vs. Thompson 2 250,000
03/08/17 UFC 210 Cormier vs. Johnson II 225,000
05/13/17 UFC 211 Miocic vs. Dos Santos II 250,000
06/03/17 UFC 212 Aldo vs. Holloway 200,000
07/08/17 UFC 213 Romero vs. Whitaker 150,000
07/29/17 UFC 214 Cormier vs. Jones II 860,000

09/09/17 UFC 215 Nunes vs. Shevchenko 100,000
10/07/17 UFC 216 Fergusen vs Lee 200,000
11/04/17 UFC 217 GSP vs. Bisping 875,000 early est.
12/02/17 UFC 218 Halloway vs Aldo 230,000 early est.
12/30/17 UFC 219 Cyborg vs. Holm 350,000 early est.

8/26/2017 McGregor/Mayweather 4,300,000 domestic buys
Estimates 1,100,000 UK buys