Ducking USADA test only 6 month suspension?

[kflo]

Come on man Jones has TKOd (death) USADA with that license to cheat I mean pulse for life

Using that logic, can’t everyone?

 

[kflo]

People are naive , dont get me wrong- just the presence of USADA is enormous but special treatment goes out to special fighters under special circumstances. Conor McGregor is in early thirties- you think you'll ever see the day hes hit with any type of significant suspension or any at all ? No ( I'm not accusing him of anything, I'm just using him as an example from the very top down to whomever depending on the circumstances).

Just think of the testing in Bellator and the ways around it.

Why would Anderson silva and jon jones be suspended but conor wouldn’t?

 

[HAWTRIDDUM]

Looks like Yair found a loophole, seems all you have to do is be "unavailable" when USADA comes knocking and all you get is a wrist slap and 6month vacation. Wtf?

Its the same loophole that olympic athletes use to dope. No more than two missed tests every 18 months, send in a letter explaining why you missed your two tests, get clean for your 3rd test, and after the 18 months has passed from your first test your testing record resets.

Many on here have argued this with me that this is not how it works, but it does since i heard it first hand from a canadian Olympic athlete that participates in the winter games

 

[kekiss]

There are absolutely supplements that are cross-contaminated with substances that are on the prohibited list.

Minor substances at best, not anabolic peds, and masking substances lol, and don't you find it funny that it’s always some bro companies who nobody even knows, and for some reason high level athletes chose them, rather than already proven supplement companies, it’s just so ridiculous that people buy this excuse.

 

[kflo]

Minor substances at best, not anabolic peds, and masking substances lol, and don't you find it funny that it’s always some bro companies who nobody even knows, and for some reason high level athletes chose them, rather than already proven supplement companies, it’s just so ridiculous that people buy this excuse.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/12/health/tainted-dietary-supplements-fda-study/index.html

Many of the adulterated muscle building products contained undeclared anabolic
steroids, which, when abused, can lead to mental problems in the short term and kidney problems, liver damage and heart problems in the long term.​

I’m not saying it’s not bullshit some of the time, but your comment that supplements aren’t tainted with steroids is false.

 

[kflo]

From Oct 2017 to Aug 2018, Jones wasn't tested at all by USADA.


The real loophole is doing cycles of PEDs until you get two missed tests, then wait for the first one to expire; they'll only get in trouble if they miss three consecutive tests.

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You should edit this because it’s false.

 

[mjfan23]

Using that logic, can’t everyone?

Not everyone is the GOAT of Pharmaceutical Enhancements

 

[mjfan23]

https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/12/health/tainted-dietary-supplements-fda-study/index.html

Many of the adulterated muscle building products contained undeclared anabolic
steroids, which, when abused, can lead to mental problems in the short term and kidney problems, liver damage and heart problems in the long term.​

I’m not saying it’s not bullshit some of the time, but your comment that supplements aren’t tainted with steroids is false.

Actually you and the fake news you quoted are wrong here.

Think about these things:
1) like poster above said why use random shit and not proven brands?
2) most of these guys have sponsorships from supplement companies yet they always get busted and claim a tainted supplement from another company. Which may be a violation of their exclusive supplement sponsorship deal and why would you pay to buy a supplement your sponsor would give you for free anyway? Also USADA, vada, ncaa etc all give you a list of approved supplements.
3) business sense: Why would a company put a very expensive controlled substance in cheap over the counter supplements and diminish their margins? Not to mention risk legal action.
4) pharma is a very controlled industry. You really think FDA and the government would allow people to sell restricted drugs in creatine or talcum powder boxes?

 

[kflo]

Actually you and the fake news you quoted are wrong here.

Think about these things:
1) like poster above said why use random shit and not proven brands?
2) most of these guys have sponsorships from supplement companies yet they always get busted and claim a tainted supplement from another company. Which may be a violation of their exclusive supplement sponsorship deal and why would you pay to buy a supplement your sponsor would give you for free anyway? Also USADA, vada, ncaa etc all give you a list of approved supplements.
3) business sense: Why would a company put a very expensive controlled substance in cheap over the counter supplements and diminish their margins? Not to mention risk legal action.
4) pharma is a very controlled industry. You really think FDA and the government would allow people to sell restricted drugs in creatine or talcum powder boxes?

How does any of that contradict the FACT that supplements are indeed often cross contaminated with prohibited substances including steroids as the article and many others report. Did you not read? And the supplement industry is NOT pharma and is NOT highly regulated.

 

[mjfan23]

How does any of that contradict the FACT that supplements are indeed often cross contaminated with prohibited substances including steroids as the article and many others report. Did you not read? And the supplement industry is NOT pharma and is NOT highly regulated.

Did you know alcohol use is prohibited in almost all states????

not anymore, but it was in the prohibition days!!

Similarly your article is outdated.

There has been a massive amount of crackdown and regulation in the industry since. If you go ten years earlier you could have even bought full fledged roids over the counter under the guise of “pro-hormones” In supplements. But that’s obviously no longer the case. The industry has evolved, no more ten dollar roids in a two dollar Asian energy drink anymore.

 

[kflo]

Did you know alcohol use is prohibited in almost all states????

not anymore, but it was in the prohibition days!!

Similarly your article is outdated.

There has been a massive amount of crackdown and regulation in the industry since. If you go ten years earlier you could have even bought full fledged roids over the counter under the guise of “pro-hormones” In supplements. But that’s obviously no longer the case. The industry has evolved, no more ten dollar roids in a two dollar Asian energy drink anymore.

Lol. The article was from 2018. You’re making shit up.

 

[mjfan23]

Lol. The article was from 2018. You’re making shit up.

Article was about fda findings from 2007 lol at least read the clickbaits you share

 

[Franklin U.]

Why would Anderson silva and jon jones be suspended but conor wouldn’t?

Anderson, at that time , really not a big issue and Jon became a circumstance where enough is enough not to mention the amount of people who probably knew to God knows what extent...

A fair question- asked and answered.
Why do you think Souza got a warning and not a suspension? He was a relevant player at middleweight, a timely suspension eouldve cost him his career as we saw him abide by the rules and we saw the results.

Like I said- * depending on the situation, recourse will vary

 

[kflo]

Article was about fda findings from 2007 lol at least read the clickbaits you share

Why are you lying about an article that is right in front of us? The study was published in oct 2018. The study data was 2007-2016.

Kumar and his co-authors reviewed the FDA’s Tainted Products Marketed as Dietary Supplements_CDER database for 2007 through 2016. ​

 

[kflo]

Anderson, at that time , really not a big issue and Jon became a circumstance where enough is enough not to mention the amount of people who probably knew to God knows what extent...

A fair question- asked and answered.
Why do you think Souza got a warning and not a suspension? He was a relevant player at middleweight, a timely suspension eouldve cost him his career as we saw him abide by the rules and we saw the results.

Like I said- * depending on the situation, recourse will vary

Why would more people know about jon than conor???

I’m not sure what youre talking about with jacare.

 

[mjfan23]

Why are you lying about an article that is right in front of us? The study was published in oct 2018. The study data was 2007-2016.

Kumar and his co-authors reviewed the FDA’s Tainted Products Marketed as Dietary Supplements_CDER database for 2007 through 2016. ​

I said 2007 and you quote it as lie and then say 2007 to Xxxx hahaha. They should investigate your food and supplements for mind tripping additives

 

[kflo]

I said 2007 and you quote it as lie and then say 2007 to Xxxx hahaha. They should investigate your food and supplements for mind tripping additives

Lol. You think a study published in 2018 from data between 2007 to 2016 is “findings from 2007”???? Haha. How is this possible??

 

[Franklin U.]

Why would more people know about jon than conor???

I’m not sure what youre talking about with jacare.

You're not very good at absorbing the words. If Conor ever gets to that position ( which I went out of my way to say that I'm not accusing- just using as example ) then who knows but where theres smoke theres fire and in Jon s case , you can see all the smoke from different parts of the country. Tough to shove under the rug.....and even in his case , God only knows - maybe anyone else and he might of been out of UFC.

Jacare- if u dont know then I dont have the time to write the same long term paper for the 28th time( look up some of my posts ).

 

[kflo]

You're not very good at absorbing the words. If Conor ever gets to that position ( which I went out of my way to say that I'm not accusing- just using as example ) then who knows but where theres smoke theres fire and in Jon s case , you can see all the smoke from different parts of the country. Tough to shove under the rug.....and even in his case , God only knows - maybe anyone else and he might of been out of UFC.

Jacare- if u dont know then I dont have the time to write the same long term paper for the 28th time( look up some of my posts ).

How would anyone see smoke if they wanted to just sweep it under the rug like you suggest???

I’m sorry bro I can’t find any reference to Jacare having an issue with usada. If you can link me to any reference that would be great.

 

[Post 2 Decision]

You still get tested. Basically he got banned for being lazy and not following guidelines.

Lazy?

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