Ducking USADA test only 6 month suspension?

[Sweater of AV]

You tried to belittle 6 different times in one day (and it’s still early) on Christmas Eve. Keep up the good work.

That's a lie but hey you're the one calling people assholes on Christmas Eve and making money for it.

Keep up the good work bud Why didn't you wish me Merry Christmas this time?

 

[kflo]

That's a lie but hey you're the one calling people assholes on Christmas Eve and making money for it.

Keep up the good work bud Why didn't you wish me Merry Christmas this time?

I said you were being an asshole because of the way you treat people on a forum, and asking if it felt good for you?

Merry Christmas.

 

[Sweater of AV]

I said you were being an asshole because of the way you treat people on a forum, and asking if it felt good for you?

Merry Christmas.

So you're calling people assholes and making money for it?

Thanks bud, you too.

 

[kflo]

Anyone up for a bet on how often @kflo posts in a jon jones thread vs all other threads? Ill do 3 to 1 kflo posts 65% jj threads vs 35% ANY other sherdog thread

This wasn’t a jon jones thread until other posters seem to want to make every thread about him. Do you have anything to actually address anything I’ve said? People want just post bullshit and not get called out for it.

 

[west42]

Odds still stand

This wasn’t a jon jones thread until other posters seem to want to make every thread about him. Do you have anything to actually address anything I’ve said? People want just post bullshit and not get called out for it.

 

[kflo]

Odds still stand

Guess I should stop responding to the trolls to cut down on the posts....that’s most of my responses.

 

[HHJ]

Looks like Yair found a loophole, seems all you have to do is be "unavailable" when USADA comes knocking and all you get is a wrist slap and 6month vacation. Wtf?

Well if you duck tests where the fight doesn't happen,that means overall it's alot longer than 6 months that you won't get a paycheck. He hasn't fought since oct 2019

 

[DestinedAussie]

Bet Jon Jones is feeling stupid as fuck right now.

Jones should of said that too. He was unavailable cause it was having a sleepover under the octagon and didn't realise there was a tester he was having so much fun.

 

[snackgod]

Looks like Yair found a loophole, seems all you have to do is be "unavailable" when USADA comes knocking and all you get is a wrist slap and 6month vacation. Wtf?

that the rule always has

 

[snackgod]

Whats the point. Its not like they are not going to test him for those 6 months. They are probably going to test him randomly the entire 6 months and if he test positive while under suspension i think its an automatic 2 years, or ban.

Unless you're Jon Jones, then its just pulsing and Is normal.

means he cant fight that the point.

 

[Hannibal Lector]

He had no idea he wouldn’t be tested.


It’s not 3 consecutive tests. It’s a rolling 12 month period.

You’re wrong on testosterone. They do random and targeted CIR testing that catches exogenous testosterone. You can’t just inject test.

Standards are applied equally (everyone since jones (and dawson) gets the same standards, and no one has ever been suspended for m3 twice).

You’re not making sense. They let people who popped fight again because they serve their suspensions. Not sure what you want.

The whereabouts policy is as follows:

An athlete could receive a Whereabouts Failure in any of four ways:

• Failure to submit a completed Whereabouts Filing by the deadline;
• Failure to promptly update Whereabouts information;
• Failure to provide accurate or sufficient information; or
• Failure to be located for testing

Any combination of three Whereabouts Failures within a rolling 12-month period = Anti-Doping Policy Violation.​

You seem to want a strict police state where any mistake is an automatic lifetime ban. It’s not realistic and again, it’s stricter than most sports.

So fighters and athletes can get a violation or suspension just by missing one test? Or do they have to miss 3 test?

It seems like they are saying Yair missed one test and are now giving him punishment? Is this true? Or did he miss three test? Because I thought a fighter had to get three whereabout failures to get a doping violation. Seems like yair has one missed test and they have him a doping violation.

@kflo

 

[kflo]

So fighters and athletes can get a violation or suspension just by missing one test? Or do they have to miss 3 test?

It seems like they are saying Yair missed one test and are now giving him punishment? Is this true? Or did he miss three test? Because I thought a fighter had to get three whereabout failures to get a doping violation. Seems like yair has one missed test and they have him a doping violation.

@kflo

“Rodriguez failed to update his Whereabouts information and was unavailable for testing at locations provided in his Whereabouts Filings on three occasions. He accrued a Whereabouts Failure in each of the first three quarters of 2020. The accumulation of three Whereabouts Failures within a 12-month period constitutes a policy violation under the UFC Anti-Doping Policy.”​

 

[IrritatedTomcat]

Well aren’t you feeling stupid, he already hid under a cage successfully

That wasn’t from USADA though,

USADA just invents terms to excuse his positive tests

 

[ocfightfan]

From Oct 2017 to Aug 2018, Jones wasn't tested at all by USADA.


The real loophole is doing cycles of PEDs until you get two missed tests, then wait for the first one to expire; they'll only get in trouble if they miss three consecutive tests.

(Timestamped)

Yep and this is exactly what I thought of when I heard about this. It's still a dangerous game because USADA is likely to pay more attention to you, and you can't be as consistent with PEDs over a long period but this is still a loophole.

 

[TempleoftheDog]

if someone can find loopholes in system about drug testing and pass it, all respect, but if you fuck up and get caught take it like a man, not make stupid excuses about tainted supplements, meat, and picograms lol, People hate TJ for admitting juicing, but at least he was honest about it.

He was “honest” about it only because there is only one way to get EPO into your system. It can’t be ingested accidently. If it is in your body it’s because you purposely put it into your body. You can’t claim it’s from “tainted supplements”.

Don’t make excuses for a blatant cheater. Or try to make him out to be some kind of honest person. An honest person wouldn’t cheat in the first place.

 

[kflo]

Yep and this is exactly what I thought of when I heard about this. It's still a dangerous game because USADA is likely to pay more attention to you, and you can't be as consistent with PEDs over a long period but this is still a loophole.

He was factually wrong. It’s not 3 consecutive tests. It’s 3 whereabout violations over a rolling 12 month period.

 

[kekiss]

He was “honest” about it only because there is only one way to get EPO into your system. It can’t be ingested accidently. If it is in your body it’s because you purposely put it into your body. You can’t claim it’s from “tainted supplements”.

Don’t make excuses for a blatant cheater. Or try to make him out to be some kind of honest person. An honest person wouldn’t cheat in the first place.

And which peds can be injected accidentally ? Let me tell you - none, it only comes down how naive and clueless some ppl are believing those stupid excuses
My point was about those scums who cheat and make excuses about it, not TJ being saint, he falls in idiot category as well for getting caught.

 

[kflo]

And which peds can be injected accidentally ? Let me tell you - none, it only comes down how naive and clueless some ppl are believing those stupid excuses
My point was about those scums who cheat and make excuses about it, not TJ being saint, he falls in idiot category as well for getting caught.

There are absolutely supplements that are cross-contaminated with substances that are on the prohibited list.

 

[Franklin U.]

People are naive , dont get me wrong- just the presence of USADA is enormous but special treatment goes out to special fighters under special circumstances. Conor McGregor is in early thirties- you think you'll ever see the day hes hit with any type of significant suspension or any at all ? No ( I'm not accusing him of anything, I'm just using him as an example from the very top down to whomever depending on the circumstances).

Just think of the testing in Bellator and the ways around it.

 

[mjfan23]

Bet Jon Jones is feeling stupid as fuck right now.

Come on man Jones has TKOd (death) USADA with that license to cheat I mean pulse for life