Crime Dozens of masked individuals attacked ICE detention center, responding officer shot in neck

the majority of people who voted in the election did. not the majority of the country. the majority of the country, in fact, literally didn't vote.

The majority of voting age adults did in fact vote. 65.3% is a majority.

"In the 2024 presidential election, 73.6% (or 174 million people) of the citizen voting-age population was registered to vote and 65.3% (or 154 million people) voted according to new voting and registration tables released today by the U.S. Census Bureau."

I liked a post that told the truth.

ICE is rounding up people, including people who have broken no laws, and sending them to foreign concentration camp shitholes from which there is no escape, with no due process, no charges filed against them in either country… wtf is that?

AFAIC, defending that shit is shameful. I noticed you ducked that point when you replied to me, why is that?

Of course violence is terrible, of course that ICE agent has a right to life, has a family…guess what, so do the people they fucking terrorize every day. So do the people stuck in fucked up prisons in El Salvador with no charges and no trial.

It wasn't an ICE officer. It was a local police officer who was called to the scene amidst reports of a person with a gun.

Stop defending indefensible actions.
 
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And these dumbasses don't understand why they're masking up.

What came first, the chicken or the egg?

I don't condone this behavior, but I understand it. We don't need a more divided America, but anyone with a brain will tell you that's where it's further headed with the constant rhetoric (anyone that criticizes the admin is a lib or "these radical leftists").

Either way, ICE are a bunch of pussies who masked up before they were in any real danger.

 
As soon as someone calls ICE Nazis or that the Illegals are like Jews... they lose all credibility. How many people have ICE killed in cold blood? That only puts them 6 million behind the Nazis. Quit being stupid 🤡 's.

I can't believe how local police forces like Portland are allowing this shit. You don't get to blare music past 10PM, you don't get to threaten Federal Agents, you don't get to obstruct LEOs from doing their job. These SHITIFA fucktards deserve prison and if they initiate a physical attack, then I have no issues with the LEOs responding with maximum force allowed by law.
 
What came first, the chicken or the egg?

I don't condone this behavior, but I understand it. We don't need a more divided America, but anyone with a brain will tell you that's where it's further headed with the constant rhetoric (anyone that criticizes the admin is a lib or "these radical leftists").

Either way, ICE are a bunch of pussies who masked up before they were in any real danger.



According to your criteria, every single ANTIFA, trans rights, BLM and Palestinian rights protester is also a pussy. They've all been masking up since BLM.

Stop being hypocritical. Both sides are masking up because they would otherwise be doxxed, their families threatened, their addresses leaked and all sorts of shit. There were multiple ICE protests where they were literally chanting "We will dox you!!" And they actually did do it a few times too - revealing the location of agents staying at hotels.

And this is coming from someone that is fully supportive of Palestinian rights.
 
The majority of voting age adults did in fact vote. 65.3% is a majority.

"In the 2024 presidential election, 73.6% (or 174 million people) of the citizen voting-age population was registered to vote and 65.3% (or 154 million people) voted according to new voting and registration tables released today by the U.S. Census Bureau."
if you'll notice, i said the majority of the country. teenagers, felons, and undocumented citizens can't vote, but they have opinions.
 
As soon as someone calls ICE Nazis or that the Illegals are like Jews... they lose all credibility. How many people have ICE killed in cold blood? That only puts them 6 million behind the Nazis. Quit being stupid 🤡 's.

I can't believe how local police forces like Portland are allowing this shit. You don't get to blare music past 10PM, you don't get to threaten Federal Agents, you don't get to obstruct LEOs from doing their job. These SHITIFA fucktards deserve prison and if they initiate a physical attack, then I have no issues with the LEOs responding with maximum force allowed by law.
I agree, people shouldn't be violent, but that's not going to stop unless ICE and those doing these things have something called EMPATHY.

Any normal person would freak out if their legal citizen parent was randomly picked up off the street, with no warrant, no information as to the next steps, no idea as to where they're going or what time frame is going on, just literally taking them and making them disappear. Most of them aggressively too, with ICE being the aggressor. That's called dehumanizing behavior and trying to fuck with people.
 
We prioritize human dignity, human safety, human rights over any economic query. I’d start there.
So if someone comes here on vacation and overstays their visa indefinitely is it a violation of their dignity to remove them? If so you are doomed to allow anyone on earth to enter the country permanently.
 
Word of the day is .... EMPATHY

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So if someone comes here on vacation and overstays their visa indefinitely is it a violation of their dignity to remove them? If so you are doomed to allow anyone on earth to enter the country permanently.
Being handcuffed by unidentified masked men and thrown into a van would be undignified yes and possibly dangerous as reported by media. People aren’t stray dogs and ICE isn’t Animal Control.
 
According to your criteria, every single ANTIFA, trans rights, BLM and Palestinian rights protester is also a pussy. They've all been masking up since BLM.

Stop being hypocritical. Both sides are masking up because they would otherwise be doxxed, their families threatened, their addresses leaked and all sorts of shit. There were multiple ICE protests where they were literally chanting "We will dox you!!" And they actually did do it a few times too - revealing the location of agents staying at hotels.

And this is coming from someone that is fully supportive of Palestinian rights.

Last time I checked ANTIFA, trans rights, BLM and Palestinian rights protesters aren't official jobs. You don't take an oath to be a protestor. You don't have a duty, a badge, gun, training. If you can't handle the job, then quit. Don't be a bitch and start skirting the job code of Conduct and law in order to keep yourself safe, there are hazards in every job. You signed up to be an ICE agent, you should be able to do the job without masking up like a pussy. Otherwise, quit.
 
Last time I checked ANTIFA, trans rights, BLM and Palestinian rights protesters aren't official jobs. You don't take an oath to be a protestor. You don't have a duty, a badge, gun, training. If you can't handle the job, then quit. Don't be a bitch and start skirting the job code of Conduct and law in order to keep yourself safe, there are hazards in every job. You signed up to be an ICE agent, you should be able to do the job without masking up like a pussy. Otherwise, quit.

That's like telling police officers don't wear bulletproof vests or riot helmets because that's a bitch move. How fucking retarded is that.

Law enforcement, ICE, FBI or anyone else on the job have a right to protect themselves.
 
That's like telling police officers don't wear bulletproof vests or riot helmets because that's a bitch move. How fucking retarded is that.

Law enforcement, ICE, FBI or anyone else on the job have a right to protect themselves.

You have a right to protect yourself.

You don't have the right to gang up on civilians and act like gang members.

There's plenty videos out there of ICE agents swarming their target, masking up and key word: NOT identifying.

Do you see the difference between wearing a bulletproof vest and not identifying yourself as an agent or law enforcement?

Come on bro it's not that difficult to understand that you cannot violate your code of Conduct and the law simply because you're scared or there's a heightened alert of threat.

That comes with the job. Can't handle the heightened hazards? Quit.
 
I agree, people shouldn't be violent, but that's not going to stop unless ICE and those doing these things have something called EMPATHY.

Any normal person would freak out if their legal citizen parent was randomly picked up off the street, with no warrant, no information as to the next steps, no idea as to where they're going or what time frame is going on, just literally taking them and making them disappear. Most of them aggressively too, with ICE being the aggressor. That's called dehumanizing behavior and trying to fuck with people.

You are discounting the aggression of violating a nation's sovereignty. With that being said, I do not want ICE going after hard workers. I'd like to see those people get a fast track to citizenship if they are tax payers. 3 years max.
 
154 million people is a majority of all adults - 262,083,034 people. Children don't count because they can't vote.
and i said there were hundreds of millions of people living here outside of that 154 million. apparently we're pretending 100 million+ isn't hundreds of millions now? sure. over a hundred million instead, is that better?
 
and i said there were hundreds of millions of people living here outside of that 154 million. apparently we're pretending 100 million+ isn't hundreds of millions now? sure. over a hundred million instead, is that better?

You said the majority of people didn't vote. The obvious implication is that you're only referring to voting age adults.

There are 262,083,034 voting age adults out of which 154 million voted. That is a majority that voted then.

You have a right to protect yourself.

You don't have the right to gang up on civilians and act like gang members.

There's plenty videos out there of ICE agents swarming their target, masking up and key word: NOT identifying.

Do you see the difference between wearing a bulletproof vest and not identifying yourself as an agent or law enforcement?

Come on bro it's not that difficult to understand that you cannot violate your code of Conduct and the law simply because you're scared or there's a heightened alert of threat.

That comes with the job. Can't handle the heightened hazards? Quit.

They do identify themselves. To the detainee AFTER they're in handcuffs. That's the law.

There's no requirement to identify themselves to some random bystander trying to interfere with a cell phone camera in their face.

And this has nothing to do with your complaint that agents wear protective masks. They have every right to do that and in fact it would be moronic not to do so. Otherwise they're putting their families in danger.
 
Well I guess they just gave them an excuse.
They didn’t need one. They were doing it already.

and again, let the record show I’m ok with LEO hiding their faces so long as there are other identifiable markers that can be used to hold them accountable to their actions. Give every licensed LEO (federal, state, county, city, what ever) a number and paste it on their uniform and equipment. I don’t need to know who officer 5436 is, what they look like or where they live, but I need to be able to make reports based on their actions.
 
You said the majority of people didn't vote. The obvious implication is that you're only referring to voting age adults.
well no, i meant everyone. felons, illegals, teenagers, they all give a shit too.
There are 262,083,034 voting age adults out of which 154 million voted. That is a majority that voted then.
right. what are you not understanding? maybe there's something i stated in the wrong way somewhere that i wasn't trying to say, but i think ive been pretty clear.
 
well no, i meant everyone. felons, illegals, teenagers, they all give a shit too.

right. what are you not understanding? maybe there's something i stated in the wrong way somewhere that i wasn't trying to say, but i think ive been pretty clear.

Most states allow felons to vote upon completion of their sentence FYI.
 
Most states allow felons to vote upon completion of their sentence FYI.
but not all, and that locks out 4 million people alone. and approximately 1 million are incarcerated right now on felony charges (about 48% of our 2 million incarcerated population)
 
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