Donald Trump's 10 Point Immigration Plan

[CableandThanos]

Didnt deflect shit, I find it hilarious how u dodged everything else I said where I destroyed u.....Fact is that illegals not filing for taxes, actually helps america.

Fact is, the cost more to America than the pay in taxes.

 

[Leroy Jenkins]

They still use more services than any money they could pay in. One fuckin trip to the ER wipes out any taxes they may have paid. if they have a kid in school they cost about 8 x what they would pay in taxes.

If they pay $1000 in taxes but their kid school cost $8000, they are a net drain.

If the kid is born in america, they are entitled to an education.

Again poor people in America who are citizens do the same thing...Do you hate poor American citizens?

 

[Leroy Jenkins]

Fact is dipshit, the cost more to America than the pay in taxes.

No they dont.

The fact that they keep American business afloat, means they are vital to our economy...If big agriculture went down...America will suffer

 

[CableandThanos]

If the kid is born in america, they are entitled to an education.

Again poor people in America who are citizens do the same thing...Do you hate poor American citizens?

Yes, We have poor people in America, that doesnt mean we should have to educate other fuckers poor kids from other countries.

We have enough poverty/paying for poor kids of our own, without picking up the tab for millions more.

Why do you hate poor Americans so much, if we didn't have to spend so much on illegals, we would have more to help them/

Why do you hate poor Americans?

 

[CableandThanos]

No they dont.

The fact that they keep American business afloat, means they are vital to our economy...If big agriculture went down...America will suffer

yep, its illegals that are keeping big AG from going down, without them big ag would just go bankrupt.

 

[Leroy Jenkins]

Yes you dumbfuck, we have poor people in America, that doesnt mean we should have to educate other fuckers poor kids from other countries.

We have enough poverty/paying for poor kids of our own, without picking up the tab for millions more.

Why do you hate poor Americans so much, if we didn't have to spend so much on illegals, we would have more to help them/

Why do you hate poor Americans?

You seem to hate anybody who doesn't pay enough taxes thus you hate poor American citizens...That's why I am asking you.

I dont hate poor americans and all that money Big AG makes, actually helps those poor people.

 

[Leroy Jenkins]

yep, its illegals that are keeping big AG from going down, without them big ag would just go bankrupt.

They would have huge problems, thats a fact.

Leroy gettin raped in this thread.

Your bootyhole must be wider than the southern border. I think I see some illegals sneakin through it.

Leroy and destroyed go together like Illegals and social services

You are delusional and making youself look like an idiot since you dont know much about this topic.

You have no facts at all.

 

[smithwick]

Kind of hard to move agriculture overseas as well.

Not hard and done regularly resulting in more injustice and less repercussions.

http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-baja-farmworkers-20150411-story.html

 

[kenetics]

Think of the children!!! The children!!!

 

[kpt018]

Except for teh Americans who wages are being driven down by illegals. who are mising out on higher paying jobs if those illegals weren't here.
Theose jobs would still need to ghet done if illegeals weren't here, andthe companies would have to pay more to Ameicans to get those jobs done.

WIN FOR DEMOCRATS ON GETTING VOTES, AND WIN FOR ILLEGALS !!!!!

Except you're wrong that immigrants are taking American jobs in any significant number. For the most part they're doing unfilled jobs that Americans don't want.

 

[Goonerview]

Except you're wrong that immigrants are taking American jobs in any significant number. For the most part they're doing unfilled jobs that Americans don't want.

lol, they got to you, man.

 

[kpt018]

lol, they got to you, man.

Huh?

 

[Big Nasty Edison]

Trump's 10 Point Immigration Plan

1. Build the wall

Trump has continued to stress that Mexico would pay for the wall, despite Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto’s tweet on Wednesday insisting that he personally told Trump his nation would do no such thing. Going off script in Phoenix, Trump complimented Peña Nieto and then said, “They don’t know it yet, but they’re going to pay for the wall.”

Never gonna happen. Also surprised that the "Obama wants to take our guns" conspiracy crew in the war room don't realize that border walls don't just keep illegals out, it keeps you in . . . so when the gov't turns on you it will be impossible to escape.

2. End “catch and release”

Trump says any immigrant in the country illegally who is arrested by law enforcement would be detained until they are deported.

Yay! More tax dollars spent on jails and prisons! Too bad the privatized prison system is coming to an end. Or would Trump reverse that too?

3. Create a deportation task force and focus on criminals in the country illegally.

Trump says he would launch a “deportation task force” that would focus on removing undocumented residents with criminal records, along with those who have overstayed their visas or are using public resources or benefits.

No problem here.

4. Defund “sanctuary cities”

Trump says he would use the federal government to discourage cities from enacting policies that protect or aid undocumented residents. Such places are referred to by conservatives as “sanctuary cities.”

Oh so the party that is so anti-big gov't wants to step in and tell cities how to run themselves? Some more Repub hyprocrisy.

5. Cancel President Obama’s executive actions

The GOP nominee would end the Obama administration’s Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals immigration policy, better known as DACA, under which roughly half a million young people brought to the U.S. as children have received temporary legal status. Trump would also cancel President Obama’s DAPA program, or Deferred Action for Parents of Americans, which would give similar status to undocumented parents of American citizens. That program has been frozen as it faces court challenges.

Of course he would.

6. Extreme vetting. Block immigration from some nations

Trump would block immigration from countries for which proper vetting is not possible. He says that would include Syria and Libya currently.

American's go into the ME and destabilize countries, then want to block immigrants from the countries they destabilized. Morally reprehensible.

7. Force other countries to take back those whom the U.S. wants to deport

Trump did not specify how this might work but insisted he would force other nations to take back criminals and other undocumented residents the U.S. wants to deport.

Good luck with that.

8. Get biometric visa tracking system fully in place

Such a system would include biometric records, such as fingerprints or retinal scans, that could identify individuals with more precision as they enter the country.

Start scanning immigrants and claim its for American safety. Next will be scanning citizens. What's next, making everyong get identifiying tattoos?

9. Strengthen E-Verify, block jobs for the undocumented

The nominee did not offer specifics but said he would strengthen the E-Verify system so that undocumented residents would find it difficult or impossible to get work.

Wonder how many of Trump's billionaire buddies made money on employing and under paying illegal immigrants. The "most american sector of all - farmers" employ more illegals than anything else. As do thousands of other small businesses like construction companies. How about more heavily fining and going after businesses that employ illegals?

10. Limit legal immigration, lower it to “historic norms” and set new caps

In the past, Trump has indicated that some legal immigration should be curtailed (in August 2015 he proposed a temporary freeze on all green cards). But his Phoenix speech expanded on that idea. The Republican nominee is now calling for a commission to roll back the amount of legal immigration to “historic norms,” a phrase that implies a level that is lower than the current historic high (immigrants relative to total U.S. population). Trump said he would expect new immigration caps to be put in place.

I thought numbers were already in line with historical norms.

Basically a bunch of fluff with no substance.

 

[Jack V Savage]

Except you're wrong that immigrants are taking American jobs in any significant number. For the most part they're doing unfilled jobs that Americans don't want.

More than that, more economic activity means more jobs. Whether immigration increases worker demand more or less than it increases worker supply isn't something that can be answered logically; you have to actually check. From what I've seen (I've posted studies before), the evidence is mixed but in general suggests that the demand increase is larger, and that the gap is very small (that is, it has very little effect on how easy or hard it is for native workers to find work, but what effect there is is probably positive).

 

[Amerikuracana]

Point one is fantasy.

Point two is unconstitutional as written.

Point three is a bit of a muddle, but not itself a problem.

Point four is aggressively antifedederalist, and of limited efficacy for cities that can self fund. Very vulnerable to constitutional challenges depending on the approach.

Point five is not surprising.

Point six is not surprising, but historically ugly - see ww2.

Point seven is fantasy.

Point eight and nine aren't surprising.

Point ten wouldn't change anything. We're well within historical norms for immigrants as a % of population.

As to point 2, I didn't realize you were a Supreme Court Justice.. Congrats on that. You still have to wait to grant certiorari and hear the case, of course, before you can really say what you said there, but we know which way you lean. Thank you your honor. I would say, your honor, that a compelling state interest may be present, and that you would have to come up with a less restrictive means to meet that government interest, in order to strike down #2 in good faith. But you know all this, of course.

 

[Heisenberg]

tunnels

 

[Goonerview]

Huh?

You e bought into the narrative that Immigrants are only doing jobs that Americans don't want or are too proud and lazy to do!

More like these jobs are outsourced to immigrants that will do the same job for a fraction of the price and house 10 Eastern European males in a 2 bedroom house.

I'm not against immigration, but when immigration starts to affect the quality of life of those native to the country in a negative way. Questions need to be f**king asked.

 

[CableandThanos]

Except you're wrong that immigrants are taking American jobs in any significant number. For the most part they're doing unfilled jobs that Americans don't want.

Why do we have to go through this every time?

If the immigrants were kicked out, the jobs would still need to be done... GUESS WHAT WOULD HAPPEN!!!

The corps, owners, etc would have to pay Americans more to do the jobs. derp thats what driving down wages means.

You kill Walmart for paying low wages but then make the excuse that agriculture /construction/etc is ok paying low wages to illegals. Picking grapes is not the only jobs a lot of them have taken over. You don't think Americans want construction jobs? The do, just not at $7 an hour.

If people who will do the job for $6 an hour are not here, companies have to pay a higher wage to get the job done.

Any other way you wanna suck illegals balls?

 

[CableandThanos]

You e bought into the narrative that Immigrants are only doing jobs that Americans don't want or are too proud and lazy to do!

More like these jobs are outsourced to immigrants that will do the same job for a fraction of the price and house 10 Eastern European males in a 2 bedroom house.

I'm not against immigration, but when immigration starts to affect the quality of life of those native to the country in a negative way. Questions need to be f**king asked.

He acts like that if illegals didn't do these jobs for low wages, the jobs would disappear. If illegals were not here, the jobs would need to get done and the businesses would need to pay higher wages. But I guess its cool that they come here and drive down wages for Americans.

 

[CableandThanos]

More than that, more economic activity means more jobs. Whether immigration increases worker demand more or less than it increases worker supply isn't something that can be answered logically; you have to actually check. From what I've seen (I've posted studies before), the evidence is mixed but in general suggests that the demand increase is larger, and that the gap is very small (that is, it has very little effect on how easy or hard it is for native workers to find work, but what effect there is is probably positive).

Gee golly, I guess if illegals didn't do those jobs they would just magically disappear. I guess all of agriculture, construction, and the service industry would just collapse.

Or gee maybe the companies would have to pay Americans higher wages. You know with higher wages means more of that economic activity you talked about.