Crime Donald Trump Hush Money Fraud Trial (5/30 Update: Trump Found Guilty on All 34 Felony Charges)

[idrankyourbeer]

IAnyway I know the outcome but intend on reading through the rest of the thread, hope no one freaks and gets bant and everyone's remembering to breathe!

i've still got like 5 or 6 pages worth of catching up to do over just 2 or 3 hours. this thread blew up when the verdict came in. i want to see who the first forum casualty was lol.

 

[Iron Mang]

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Trump looked 'very demolished' by verdict, says court sketch artist who captured the moment​

Laura Italiano and Jacob Shamsian
May 30, 2024, 5:38 PM PDT
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[Gutter Chris]

talk about the highest levels of election tampering

if you aint cheating, you aint trying

you may have got this round you scum soyboys, trump aint done yet

That's the problem with Trump people they arent attached to any policy they are into the man . like he's your online avatar for trolling leftists and it's the ultimate objective. Not gun rights, not cultural goals not even the border ...just seeing fat blue haired bitches wail.

If these retards would have all pulled in one direction and nominated someone who's not a criminal con man they'd likely be looking at an easy victory in November.

Even if he doesn't get but a slap on the wrist this is going to hurt in November. It's seriously time for this Trump shit to be over. Biden too but when he wins who's fault is it ?

 

[DiddlyDoodly]

Yeah, those are the underlying crimes Cohen committed on behalf of Trump. They dinged him for every single check he used to pay back Cohen for that criminal scheme.

Did you read the indictment?

https://www.manhattanda.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/Donald-J.-Trump-Indictment.pdf

Dude, even the jurors were confused about what was going on. Or at least they claimed they were.

 

[pinger]

So in 2025, what do you think the first thing that Trump will get cleaned up? Gas prices or the invasion of criminals at the border?

His Tinder profile

 

[HereticBD]

Trump looked 'very demolished' by verdict, says court sketch artist who captured the moment​

Laura Italiano and Jacob Shamsian
May 30, 2024, 5:38 PM PDT
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But was he "DESTROYED!"

 

[Rob Battisti]

Two guys I look to for a semblance of reality are @Mr Holmes and @Rob Battisti and you guys seem to be on opposite sides of the divide on this, which actually makes me think @Mr Holmes is more on the money. Any kind of difference of opinion can change things, to deny things might change seems a little bit more lightweight than the acceptance things will change.

Not for the majority, of course, or for hardcores - but for those centrists out there.

The question, then, is what influence do centrists have in US politics?

Tbh I didn’t want Trump to run and had no intention of voting for him before or after this. I just don’t think it will sway people.

 

[idrankyourbeer]

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Trump looked 'very demolished' by verdict, says court sketch artist who captured the moment​

Laura Italiano and Jacob Shamsian
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what i wouldnt have done to be a fly on the wall when that verdict came in.

he already looked like a defeated man the other day when he walked out to do his mother theresa level coping and seething.

this is what winning looks like right here everybody

 

[RemyR]

This is easily the most batshit insane election cycle I can remember. Holy hell what a plot twist.

 

[Rational Poster]

Dude even the jurors were confused about what was going on. Or at least they claimed they were.

I think even an idiot like you could understand if you thought about it for a second.

Michael Cohen did a crime for Trump. It was bank fraud. He lied to a bank to get a loan and then used the money to pay off some hookers so Trump wouldn't have to report it as a campaign spending.

Not disclosing spending like this is also a campaign finance violation and it's even worse to do something like this to try and hide it.

In Trump's case, we literally have every single check that Trump signed himself to pay back Cohen the exact amount he spent paying off hookers. Some of those checks were signed in the oval office.

The most hilarious part is, they didn't have to do any of this. Idiots like you would have supported him anyway or even more if he was just honest about fucking a porn star and even knowing all of this you're still going to support him. lmao

 

[SummerStriker]

Guilty of what? Nobody even knows what the "underlying crime" was that brought the charges in the first place, and the judge with a daughter who worked for the Biden campaign told the jurors they don't even have to know or agree on what it was. Even CNN has had like 5 different people admit

So far everyone in here who declared him guilty the day it was announced, also without saying what the "underlying crime" was, still don't even know what the crime was. Someone on the first page thought he was drawing from campaign donations, another dude a few pages back thought it was "bank fraud". Guilty of a secretary picking "legal expenses" from a quick books drop down menu for an NDA isn't a felony.

He paid a prostitute under the table to improve his shot at the White House.

 

[nostradumbass]

Yeah, those are the underlying crimes Cohen committed on behalf of Trump. They dinged him for every single check he used to pay back Cohen for that criminal scheme.

Did you read the indictment?

https://www.manhattanda.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/Donald-J.-Trump-Indictment.pdf

Those are not NY state charges, and they're not the same person. Multiple federal jurisdictions already looked into charging Trump and said there was nothing there. Crimes aren't transferable to a different person.

 

[Satsui Ryu]

It wasn't a dumb decision to vote against swamp vomit Hillary. She would've started at least 3 new wars. And he's right about Obama. The guy ran on being "change" and then the 1st thing he did was put together a cabinet from names he got from an email from Citigroup.

I'm hard pressed to believe the opinion of people who were gung ho about one of the worst military campaigns the country has ever seen, pretend to have not supported it, and continues to pump absurd amounts of money into the MIC on who are warmongers. Seems like a way to sweep past awful decisions under the rug. Hell according to them we should be in WW3 as we speak with Biden.

But besides that, out of thousands of Republican candidates out there there isn't one more worthwhile than Trump. Someone else couldn't be picked during the primaries? It seems Trump being picked is less an indictment of Democrats than than a show of how god-awful Republicans are. Saying Trump was chosen because of Hillary or any other Democrat sounds like a cop out considering how he beat the breaks out of the other Republicans in the primaries. And I mean from a practicality perspective doesn't it make more sense to vote for someone who can actually have two consecutive terms to be able to actually enact policy?

 

[nostradumbass]

He paid a prostitute under the table to improve his shot at the White House.

Non disclosure agreements aren't a crime.

 

[Joe]

 

[Mr Holmes]

When you think about it, what's really gonna change? Trump will be on the campaign trail...probably tomorrow, and will be running the same "political persecution" game he's been running with great success. This is just another feather in his cap proving what he's been saying. It's a perfect landing. It'd probably be worse for his campaign if he was found not guilty, because then he'd have to balance his approach and not lean into the corruption angle as much. Not that that would matter much either, but it would at least be trickier. His campaign is half "MAGA", and half "Look at what these corrupt people are doing to me!". It's just more ammunition.

That all said, Trump's relevance(let alone surging popularity) has little to do with Trump himself, and everything to do with Biden and his ineptitude. Until Biden starts convincing people that he's not a complete muppet, Trump ain't going anywhere.

I guess I might be out in left field here, but the thought of him being behind bars I think changes a lot. I guess we gotta wait and see who his VP pick is going to be. A good VP that people can feel comfortable with will go a long way.

 

[idrankyourbeer]

Dude, even the jurors were confused about what was going on. Or at least they claimed they were.

they just wanted a bit of clarification just to make sure they got it right before they came to their verdict. gotta dot those i's and cross the t's my man.

 

[idrankyourbeer]

I guess I might be out in left field here, but the thought of him being behind bars I think changes a lot. I guess we gotta wait and see who his VP pick is going to be.

well it's safe to say that it won't be susan necheles or todd blanche.

 

[Joe Mama]

He paid a prostitute under the table to improve his shot at the White House.

At least there was no semen on a blue dress though...

Maybe on the floor

 

[Rational Poster]

Those are not NY state charges, and they're not the same person. Multiple federal jurisdictions already looked into charging Trump and said there was nothing there. Crimes aren't transferable to a different person.

I guess they must have missed something since we happen to have on record 34 falsified business records and checks linking Trump directly to that criminal scheme.