Crime Donald Trump Hush Money Fraud Trial (5/30 Update: Trump Found Guilty on All 34 Felony Charges)

It's depressing that so much emotional energy is being invested into either defending or tearing down two guys who already have one foot in the grave, and won't be around long regardless of what happens come election day. The most darkly humorous thing I can think of is the winner falling over dead on November 6th.
 
It's depressing that so much emotional energy is being invested into either defending or tearing down two guys who already have one foot in the grave, and won't be around long regardless of what happens come election day. The most darkly humorous thing I can think of is the winner falling over dead on November 6th.

Here's the critical differential, IMO.

If Trump and Biden both dropped dead on November 6, the only people heartbroken would be MAGA.

I don't think anyone even cares much for Biden. He's just the better option for half the population. The other half are fully bought in to a very weird character.
 
It wasn't a dumb decision to vote against swamp vomit Hillary. She would've started at least 3 new wars. And he's right about Obama. The guy ran on being "change" and then the 1st thing he did was put together a cabinet from names he got from an email from Citigroup.
Eh, should we examine Trump’s administration? He started even earlier, while on the campaign trail—running on “draining the swamp” while Manafort and Stone were at the helm.

His cabinet is hardly some testament to a movement of the People.
 
Eh, should we examine Trump’s administration? He started even earlier, while on the campaign trail—running on “draining the swamp” while Manafort and Stone were at the helm.

His cabinet is hardly some testament to a movement of the People.

Don't forget that creep white nationalist Stephen Miller that tried to ban all Muslims from entering the country, including our allies.
 
Don't forget that creep white nationalist Stephen Miller that tried to ban all Muslims from entering the country, including our allies.
Not all,

Just the ones using fake FB profiles to promote vent cleaning and auto detailing scams.
 
Eh, should we examine Trump’s administration? He started even earlier, while on the campaign trail—running on “draining the swamp” while Manafort and Stone were at the helm.

His cabinet is hardly some testament to a movement of the People.
I actually agree with you on something. Putting a guy like John Bolton in his administration was unredeemable.
 
Don't get it twisted. I'm mostly a hater of the democrats. I hold no allegiance to the Republicans. Hailey is trash. Hillary Clinton 2.0.

America can do better than Biden v Trump. If it makes you feel better, I would prefer the orange bafoon over Biden.

sherbro, i understand you feel that trump's not ideal, but if he backs out that means the corruption won and they will cram corrupt establishment candidates down everyone's throats for the rest of time.
 
i am NOT going to cave to peer pressure and struggle session trump and change my stance on him, hoping that it will "soothe things over" and "get us back to normal". that's part of why they're doing this.

no, they fucked him and will pull the same shit to anyone who butt heads with the establishment.

ahh yes, the establishment, the cabal, the deep state, the pizzagate, the large fries and the chocolate shake.

have you ever considered that perhaps the rapey orange felon might actually be a piece of shit criminal and he keeps getting found guilty on shit because he's a piece of shit criminal who gets caught doing shitty illegal things?

i mean come on, you even had a trumptard on the jury panel and even the evidence against the fraudy felon presented to him wasn't convincing enough to have any doubt about what he did.

but you guys keep doing the dance and stamping your feet and screaming witch hunt and weaponized justice system at the sky, and inventing your whackadoodle conspiracies and false narratives to try to explain away why things are playing out exactly how you would not expect them to while you glue yourself in to benny johnson, tucker carlson, catturd, and super duper ultra maga johnny on twitter.

all your fantasies of lawfare and fairy tales of weaponized justice systems is no more real than your election fraud fairy. you will keep repeating it, but much like the election fraud fairy, you will never ever be able to provide any evidence and prove that your whackadoodle claims and excuses are anything more than fantasies and fairy tales. why? because it's bullshit. the left knows it, they see through your bullshit, and even you morons know it, but you still have to stand by it anyways because it's the only coping mechanism that you have left.

on your quest to own the libs, you have found yourself being reduced to championing for a serial liar, adulterer, defamer, fraudster, rapist, convicted felon, and a guy who ran scam universities and stolen from children with cancer....all rolled into one. enjoy dying on this hill with the rest of these losers.
 
The hit job part was going to trial. The truth is that there wasn't a single true believer to hang the jury. He's guilty as fuck. Literally unbelievable they couldn't find one guy to throw the game for Trump. Trump is a POS and deserves this.
Guilty of what? Nobody even knows what the "underlying crime" was that brought the charges in the first place, and the judge with a daughter who worked for the Biden campaign told the jurors they don't even have to know or agree on what it was. Even CNN has had like 5 different people admit

So far everyone in here who declared him guilty the day it was announced, also without saying what the "underlying crime" was, still don't even know what the crime was. Someone on the first page thought he was drawing from campaign donations, another dude a few pages back thought it was "bank fraud". Guilty of a secretary picking "legal expenses" from a quick books drop down menu for an NDA isn't a felony.
 
I actually agree with you on something. Putting a guy like John Bolton in his administration was unredeemable.
Hey, this might be a first :)
I agree on Bolton for sure. But also Pruitt? Zinke? DeVos?
It was pretty bad. Whatever your opinion of Trump, his appointees had an insane amount of scandal.
 
I hope you're right.
When you think about it, what's really gonna change? Trump will be on the campaign trail...probably tomorrow, and will be running the same "political persecution" game he's been running with great success. This is just another feather in his cap proving what he's been saying. It's a perfect landing. It'd probably be worse for his campaign if he was found not guilty, because then he'd have to balance his approach and not lean into the corruption angle as much. Not that that would matter much either, but it would at least be trickier. His campaign is half "MAGA", and half "Look at what these corrupt people are doing to me!". It's just more ammunition.

That all said, Trump's relevance(let alone surging popularity) has little to do with Trump himself, and everything to do with Biden and his ineptitude. Until Biden starts convincing people that he's not a complete muppet, Trump ain't going anywhere.
 
sherbro, i understand you feel that trump's not ideal, but if he backs out that means the corruption won and they will cram corrupt establishment candidates down everyone's throats for the rest of time.
Didn't Trump just get convicted of felonies for a corrupt attempt to influence the 2016 election? I highly doubt you are that worried about corruption.
 
ahh yes, the establishment, the cabal, the deep state, the pizzagate, the large fries and the chocolate shake.

have you ever considered that perhaps the rapey orange felon might actually be a piece of shit criminal and he keeps getting found guilty on shit because he's a piece of shit criminal who gets caught doing shitty illegal things?

i mean come on, you even had a trumptard on the jury panel and even the evidence against the fraudy felon presented to him wasn't convincing enough to have any doubt about what he did.

but you guys keep doing the dance and stamping your feet and screaming witch hunt and weaponized justice system at the sky, and inventing your whackadoodle conspiracies and false narratives to try to explain away why things are playing out exactly how you would not expect them to while you glue yourself in to benny johnson, tucker carlson, catturd, and super duper ultra maga johnny on twitter.

all your fantasies of lawfare and fairy tales of weaponized justice systems is no more real than your election fraud fairy. you will keep repeating it, but much like the election fraud fairy, you will never ever be able to provide any evidence and prove that your whackadoodle claims and excuses are anything more than fantasies and fairy tales. why? because it's bullshit. the left knows it, they see through your bullshit, and even you morons know it, but you still have to stand by it anyways because it's the only coping mechanism that you have left.

on your quest to own the libs, you have found yourself being reduced to championing for a serial liar, adulterer, defamer, fraudster, rapist, convicted felon, and a guy who ran scam universities and stolen from children with cancer....all rolled into one. enjoy dying on this hill with the rest of these losers.

I bet that guy is Canadian anyway.
 
i am NOT going to cave to peer pressure and struggle session trump and change my stance on him, hoping that it will "soothe things over" and "get us back to normal". that's part of why they're doing this.

no, they fucked him and will pull the same shit to anyone who butt heads with the establishment.
Nobody says "soothe things over".
 
Here's the critical differential, IMO.

If Trump and Biden both dropped dead on November 6, the only people heartbroken would be MAGA.

I don't think anyone even cares much for Biden. He's just the better option for half the population. The other half are fully bought in to a very weird character.

Regardless these two fossils shouldn’t be anywhere near the presidential race. These old folks are out of touch with the average person and youth of today.. The fact this is the best the US can come up with is astounding. These old guys have no new ideas.
 
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