Crime Donald Trump Hush Money Fraud Trial (5/30 Update: Trump Found Guilty on All 34 Felony Charges)

Don't get it twisted. I'm mostly a hater of the democrats. I hold no allegiance to the Republicans. Hailey is trash. Hillary Clinton 2.0.

America can do better than Biden v Trump. If it makes you feel better, I would prefer the orange bafoon over Biden.
If Haley was R's plan B after Trump, that falls solely on the party, not the voter
 
Imagine electing a convicted felon as the leader of your country. Third world shit.
It happens on the local level way more often than you would think.

Politics is a strange game man... Its not what you know, but who you know and what dirt you might have on them. Oh and who's palms and islands you are greasing.
 
WTF? Just when I think you can't set the bar any lower.

Always remember when people show their true colors, folks.

You been in this forum as long as me. It is actually amazing what sherdog has done and become over the years, the influence it has had. But damn. Today is sad, and the sherdog staff all circ jerking is sad.

Simple as. Trump’s appeal will correct all this and give them a big fuck you
 
Idk man does it REALLY change the way people see Trump?
That would be a "no".

Some introspection is in order for Liberals. Why are you depending on the courts to save you from Trump? Shouldn't you stop pretending that Biden has done a good job, and maybe start looking in his direction as to why people are turning to Trump? Motherfucker might very well be the very first prison inmate President, if Biden doesn't get his shit in order. That's how bad Biden sucks.
 
You been in this forum as long as me. It is actually amazing what sherdog has done and become over the years, the influence it has had. But damn. Today is sad, and the sherdog staff all circ jerking is sad.

Simple as. Trump’s appeal will correct all this and give them a big fuck you

Well if that's the prediction you're making he's fucked. Because you're wrong every fucking time.
 
No twisting needed. You simply buy into the results of a show trial. If not a show trial, why else would the results make you take your stance? There is not middle ground here. Either the trial was a political hit job, and if you agree with that, why would you suggest you have trump back down?

Otherwise there is literally no logic to suggest he backdown.

It is as black and white as possible lol, the fact you and others are willing to deflect into gray area is beyond stupid. Again, I like you and similar other posters, but after a week of even CNN and MSNBC warning of this verdict, you guys are retardsd
First, you need to get your facts straight, I didn't want Trump to run again from the start. I didn't suddenly flip after this verdict.

And you're fooling yourself if you think this verdict isn't going to have an impact on the election. You want another 4 years of open borders and Bidenomics?
 
First, you need to get your facts straight, I didn't want Trump to run again from the start. I didn't suddenly flip after this verdict.

And you're fooling yourself if you think this verdict isn't going to have an impact on the election. You want another 4 years of open borders and Bidenomics?
Exactly.

Trump is a direct result of 8 years of 'Hope And Change' that so many fell for. (Myself included)

Disgustipation will drive people to make some pretty questionable choices sometimes...
 
Trump has a base that is super strong, but he will need more than them to win. We get caught up in this bubble here, but for average people, this is a huge thing.
I honestly have doubts that’s the case
 
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You been in this forum as long as me. It is actually amazing what sherdog has done and become over the years, the influence it has had. But damn. Today is sad, and the sherdog staff all circ jerking is sad.

Simple as. Trump’s appeal will correct all this and give them a big fuck you

you can't really successfully appeal verdicts unless you can prove misconduct (or, extremely rarely, defense incompetence), but like everything else that bothers him, i'm sure that Mr. 1-99 will file his frivolous appeal. good luck with that. try not to OD on copium for the time being.

the rapey orange felon couldn't even convince the maga dude on the jury panel who follows trump on truth social and gets his news from twitter and truth social that he might possibly be innocent. lolzers.

are we winning yet?
 
Has the high worn off yet? Do Liberals really think this changes anything? People weren't moved and Trump even received significant bumps over these indictments, but finding him guilty over what people think are sham political charges, is somehow gonna change things?

In a few days when polling comes out and Trump is still leading(possibly by even more than he is now), does the party still continue, or do they maybe start realizing why Trump is more popular than Biden? It's not because Trump is some clean as whistle pastor. It's because Biden sucks that bad. When you're looking for outside sources to save your guy, your guy sucks and you know it.

Funny enough, I doubt there's all that much of a "high" for them. Yes, they've gained a new talking point and can now feign moral superiority because Trump is a "convicted felon." But even they know deep down this won't make a difference, and the only possibile side effect is drawing more people to Trump's side.
 
Barack Obama waged an illegal war without Congressional approval. George Bush lied about weapons of mass destruction. They won't be targeted because the people who own our government were the driving factors behind those crimes against humanity.
Those were Presidential decisions. They weren't actions taken on their own personal behalf.
 
First, you need to get your facts straight, I didn't want Trump to run again from the start. I didn't suddenly flip after this verdict.

And you're fooling yourself if you think this verdict isn't going to have an impact on the election. You want another 4 years of open borders and Bidenomics?

Cry more. How weak are you folk? This won’t have any impact on me as I allow it to say I think trump should now give the nominee to Haley. Can you people even listen to yourselves? The justice department hasn’t been weaponized against school boards, etc. conservatives

But now because of this radical case we should give the nomination to an establishment war monger?

How dement are you peole
 
First, you need to get your facts straight, I didn't want Trump to run again from the start. I didn't suddenly flip after this verdict.

And you're fooling yourself if you think this verdict isn't going to have an impact on the election. You want another 4 years of open borders and Bidenomics?

Two guys I look to for a semblance of reality are @Mr Holmes and @Rob Battisti and you guys seem to be on opposite sides of the divide on this, which actually makes me think @Mr Holmes is more on the money. Any kind of difference of opinion can change things, to deny things might change seems a little bit more lightweight than the acceptance things will change.

Not for the majority, of course, or for hardcores - but for those centrists out there.

The question, then, is what influence do centrists have in US politics?
 
Funny enough, I doubt there's all that much of a "high" for them. Yes, they've gained a new talking point and can now feign moral superiority because Trump is a "convicted felon." But even they know deep down this won't make a difference, and the only possibile side effect is drawing more people to Trump's side.
You guys really don't think there will be a fallout from this? Hillary got fucked when Comey announced he was re-opening the email server investigation.
 
I remember how confident the Trumpies were during Election Night 2020, particularly here. And they went running with their tail's between their legs. It's going to happen again. Sensible Americans are going to go out and vote, and make that Trump is never going to be President again. Trumptards are beyond delusional and they will cry "rigged and stolen election" again.

The silent majority? Those are not the Trumptards, those are the Americans who are sitting back and watching Trump crash and burn. There is nothing silent from the Trumpies. He has been a plight on American society since he arrived on the political scene. The sooner MAGA comes to end in Nov 24, the better it is for the country.
 
Overall this is likely a good thing for Trump. Might cost him a few votes among naive white independents who believe in the system but its giving him massive street cred among the black community.
 
It is more than enough. I don't think he's great by any means, but he hasn't been a terrible president. People are so stupid that they can't separate the "My Life isn't better under this President" perspective or refrain from being a sycophant to partisan politics, to the extent that we can't begin to approach most issues and discuss anything logically.

I rarely venture into the War Room outside of cracking a joke here or there. It isn't worth it. At this point, everyone would rather argue than do anything else. Shit, reading stupid McGregor threads, watching nut huggers jump through hoops to justify idiocy and dealing with rampant fighter bashing in the Heavies seems more worthwhile. Yet, here I am.
Federal judges have so much power now because you need 60 votes in the senate to do anything now and no party gets 60. So the courts make all these big decisions that congress should make. Another trump term would be a disaster. Especially if thomas or alito go.
 
And you're fooling yourself if you think this verdict isn't going to have an impact on the election.
Unless Biden pulls a miracle out his ass, and has a 9/11 fall in his lap, it likely won't. The indictments didn't move the polls. Highly doubt this does either. People have made up their minds. All but a very select few, anyways.

People aren't supporting Trump because they like him(well, the non-MAGA crowd anyways). They just hate Biden more.
 
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