Does a failed drug test matter in the GOAT discussion?

[Thesnake101]

Obviously asking about your opinion on it. I'm more liberal than a guy that immediately disqualifies anyone who's tested positive, but I do hold those who have yet to fail above them; I think both Fedor and GSP are above Anderson and Jones for that very reason, but I also think that all four of those guys are amazing fighters and that PEDs aren't the only reason they are great, in the case of the last two.

Spoiler

Dick pills is a weak as shit excuse though, at least own up to the fact that you cheated.

 

[Blayt7hh]

I'm of two minds about it. Sometimes it bothers me and sometimes it doesn't. It certainly does hurt their case, but I don't call it an automatic eliminator.

 

[Pierced7681]

Yes, only pussies take steroids.

 

[AC1D1K]

drugs is a hell of a drugs! if they serve their suspension its all good.

 

[Gabe]

Yeah probably.

 

[epic1stpost]

I think they deserve an asterisk for sure.

 

[James Baller]

It doesn't make a difference for me. Fuck USADA.

 

[Bluntforce420]

Absolutely

Just like in Baseball, you should be banned from the HOF too

 

[McSpikes]

No. They'd all have tested positive for something if USADA was around day 1 and in PRIDE

 

[yookfarb]

I'm pretty apathetic and realistic when it comes to these things but Jones drug use is pretty damn disturbing a lot more than Anderson

not just the years and years of lying and bullshitting only to be busted, but the timing of it all failing tests against fighting DC both times... and the cocaine use only satan knows if he's using that for an edge or even weight cutting

 

[daemusvladornu]

I think if you have to use PED... That you're a joke. I always found Vitor Belfort entertaining. But it didn't change the fact if he wasn't on TRT or roids he got his ass handed to him by any relevant fighter.

 

[JoshR86]

Name me 1 sport where cheating doesn't undermine an athletes accomplishment??

Just 1??

Sherdog is a special bunch

 

[Maori]

Name me 1 sport where cheating doesn't undermine an athletes accomplishment??

Just 1??

Sherdog is a special bunch

Bodybuilding?

Hahaha

 

[daemusvladornu]

Bodybuilding?

Hahaha

No shit lol

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

I think I would rank a fighter's taste in cars higher than a drug test failure when it comes to the GOAT discussion

 

[McSpikes]

Name me 1 sport where cheating doesn't undermine an athletes accomplishment??

Just 1??

Sherdog is a special bunch

Shawne Merriman made it to the Pro Bowl the same year in which he was suspended for steroid abuse.

 

[imarayda]

nah. I don't really care. I don't think getting caught for the thing that everyone does in secret is a problem.

 

[g*r*b]

Why not distinguish between a BOAT (best of all time) and a GOAT? Let the first be defined as the one who hit the highest level of skill and brilliance in competition regardless of anything else, and let the second factor in things like career length, cleanness, etc.

 

[Scheme]

Is literally having super human strength and cardio cheating?

Hmm.....

 

[Jorge Luis Borges]

I think if you have to use PED... That you're a joke. I always found Vitor Belfort entertaining. But it didn't change the fact if he wasn't on TRT or roids he got his ass handed to him by any relevant fighter.

TRT is roids.