You really can't count my graph was for a 3 person household. Mom + Dad + Kid = 3 people. You have to use the number of people in the household to determine if they are in middle income. Can you count?
If someone has a kid, the mother or father in the least have to take care of the kid. So in the very least you have a 2 person household. Can you count?
If someone is living by themselves, they are part of a one person household? Can you count?
http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2016...se-look-at-changes-within-metropolitan-areas/
So if a mother takes care of her kid, she needs to make $34,000 to be in middle income. If both parents take care of the kid, they need to make $41,641 to be middle income. This is well above 200% the poverty level. You don't get to use numbers without actually counting the kid. Even without the kid, the woman by herself at 2 x (Federal Poverty Level) = 2x 11,670 = $23,340 is below the cutoff for middle income. There isn't anyway to argue most women who get abortions are middle income. 59% already have at least one kid so there are a lot of women way below the poverty level prior to their first abortion.
Why are you moving back around from "oh, that is enough money" to "Women with kids get assistance - food stamps (what ever they call it now), housing assistance, sometimes free daycare, heating assistance, etc."? You blow off the hardship of being poor because often they get assistance. It is like you quit even yourself trying to argue that they are middle class.
neither will women terminating pregnancies suddenly disappear. Looking at things in absolutes limits your understanding. Again, there have been people terminating pregnancies long before the gun was ever a concept. Same thing could be said for guns, I could fabricate my own gun if I so choose, it wouldn't be anything near as nice or accurate as something I could now purchase, but it will send a projectile down range.
So you just justified banning guns, guns have been used to commit murders. Reducing the number of guns would reduce the number of murders the same way outlawing abortion will only reduce the number of abortions, not eliminate them entirely. Way to talk yourself out of your own argument.
I agree with this, personally I don't like the idea of an abortion, but who am I to tell a woman "you have to have that child, you need to incur the medical responsibilities for the duration of the pregnancy and raise it for the next 16 to 18 years if it's a healthy kid, if it's not healthy well then you better buckle up for the rest of your life taking care of that kid because it offends my moral sensibilities all because you let some guy stick his dick in you".
in an ideal world you are absolutely correct, but in an ideal world everyone wouldn't eat themselves to be gluttonous fat blobs either, people would not smoke and increase their chances of cancer, not take drugs recreationally that can cause damage or an overdose, people wouldn't drink and run the risks associated with alcohol related diseases or kill people in car accidents. There are a thousand things people could do that would be healthier and have less of a cost burden on society and the healthcare industry. Simple fact is that there will always be people that don't use contraceptive methods and there will always be people screwing around. The truth is poor people screw around more often than more affluent people because basically it's a cheap entertainment at face value. They rarely consider the ramifications, especially when the woman gets assurances from the guy that he'll pull out, he is wearing a condom or they both had too much to drink or are on some other mind altering substance. Also the vast majority of women that get abortions are just using it as a means of birth control, a majority of women that get abortions go through psychological issues associated with it.
First off the life vs not a life thing is relative and subjective. Would the fetus survive outside the mother or if the mother died? If not, then it's not an issue to me, but that's a matter of perspective, I respect yours but apparently you don't respect mine........... that is the crux of the issue.
