do you consider the oblique kick dirty?
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I did it to my friend in highschool once. He gasped and stayed bent at a 90 degree angle motionlessly holding his side, silently, for entire minutes. He had punched my shoulder for a joke first thing in the morning and I thought it would be funny to kick him but it was much worse than I thought, I actually got scared and thought he had burst something internally, that's the way he reacted
I don't do that to friends anymore
I don't do that to friends anymore
I use it all the time in sparring, it is a big part of my kicking. I think its pretty easy to do it with control, and most guys don't stand with their legs locked out. I definitely would not do it to someone who did lock their legs out.
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reading it reminded me of something i did to my friend years ago... we were playing basketball at an indoor court, mostly 1v1 and then some HORSE. somewhere in the middle of it, he made a really nice move/shot, scored and he ran up the wall, did a handstand and stayed there. i had the ball in my hand and i wanted to scare him so i lauched it towards him. i was aiming a bit to his left intending on missing him completely.. but i nailed him in his crown jewels.. he collapsed... on the ground and didn't move for quite a while. i felt terrible that day.
but now that i think about it... :icon_lol:
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If the technique you're calling an "oblique kick" is the same one that I'm thinking of, then no, I absolutely do not consider it "dirty." It's a great technique--quick and effective, with several different ways to apply it. As a karateka, it's actually a major technique for me, although we tend to utilize it at punching range or clinching range, rather than kicking range as I've seen some people do it.
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An oblique kick doesn't mean to kick them in the obliques. It is a kick directed to the knee.
I just Googled "oblique kick" and learned that "Rampage" Jackson has complained (some might say "whined") on-camera that it should be banned.
Help me out here, guys... I don't get it. How many permanent, career-ending, life-altering injuries have been inflicted by this "devastating" kick?
Help me out here, guys... I don't get it. How many permanent, career-ending, life-altering injuries have been inflicted by this "devastating" kick?
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Yes.
Try it against a pro in a training camp and when you wake up tell him it's never caused an injury so it's fine.
On regaining consciousness for the second time think about why somebody might not want their knee stomped on the wrong way.
Annnnnnnnnnd begin tit for tat argument........
Try it against a pro in a training camp and when you wake up tell him it's never caused an injury so it's fine.
On regaining consciousness for the second time think about why somebody might not want their knee stomped on the wrong way.
Annnnnnnnnnd begin tit for tat argument........
No, I think I'll just wait for an answer.
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In sparring, yes. In a street fight, no. In a competition, debatable.
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pretty much this. though, its legal in pro fights so i guess its not dirty. are Palhares heelhooks dirty? i bring that up because ive heard of more guys getting their knees shredded by this one guy than all oblique kicks to the knee combined. yes, anecdotal evidence but can anyone show me a guy's knee getting destroyed by a kick like this? aside from Rampage whining about JJ?
Pro Savate fighters do it, things change with shoes.
That being said I lightly popped a sparring partner in the shins with the sole of my bare foot, and he collapsed. No he wasnt a pro, but the technique works at all contact levels.
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Well, Rampage needed knee surgery and he says Jones messed up his knees. Only one I know about. The trainer at a gym I used to go to didn't let us use it in sparring due to the potential for injury. It seems like opinion is pretty divided on it, some people think it's no big deal some think it's dirty.
I wouldn't want someone using it against me in sparring unless I'm preparing for a fight and I've told the guy I'm okay with it before we sparred. Kicks to the knee area like that do seem dangerous to me and even if it isn't likely anything will happen, why would I want to risk getting my knee messed up if I'm not even getting paid?
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I'm not a pro fighter so I really can't say what pros should or shouldn't do, but if I am standing across the ring from someone that is determined to make me hurt, bleed, and tap out or submit then I may be inclined to use it against him before he uses it on me.
In sparring, never. But I train and practice it on the thai bag for self defense encounters where it will be added to the arsenal of attacks used to incapacitate an opponent as quickly as possible.
In sparring, never. But I train and practice it on the thai bag for self defense encounters where it will be added to the arsenal of attacks used to incapacitate an opponent as quickly as possible.
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lift your leg...not having your weight on that leg makes a difference. have you ever had someone block your teep with their kneecap? doesnt make the bottom of your foot feel real good.
what about teeps to the knee? is that dirty? sometimes, ill throw a teep but instead of using the ball of the foot, ill land with the heel into the thigh muscle right above the knee. though, i cringe sometimes at the guy's reaction to it...that happens also when i see someone's knee buckle from a roundhouse to the side of the knee but i guess that isnt as bad.
Thanks. That makes one, if a kick thrown by Jones was indeed the cause of Jackson's injury. Was he on crutches after the fight? If so, I would probably believe him.
I've had ACL reconstruction surgery myself, so I suppose I should be extra-sensitive to the "potential for injury" of a "devastating" kick thrown at the knee. But this fear of knees getting blown out backward appears irrational when nobody's ever seen it happen.
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Exactly what he said. I don't do it in sparring, but if I ever fought or was in a street fight, I'd do it in a heartbeat.
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