Do You Consider Benson 'Smooth' Henderson Boring or Not?

xMaxPower said:
For any other sport, the W is all that matters too.
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Eh, maybe for ball sports. Strikers love a KO; grapplers love a sub.


As I told my ex who liked Harry Potter, this is one of the few sports where there's a Golden Snitch.
 
dontsnitch said:
They don't do this because it's not a good strategy, not because it's boring. If that would work every team would do that.
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My point is IF a team could run the ball for 4 yards every play that would equal to a touchdown every drive unless there was a penalty. Benson knows he can just run for 4 or 5 yards every single play so why risk an interception by throwing? Benson knows he can just cruise and fix his hair and win the fight. There was 0 risk of losing to Nate Diaz yet he didn't push the pace harder later in the fight.
 
Non said:
I bet you really loved Mir vs Cro Cop. How about Palalei vs Krylov?

Fights don't need a finish to be entertaining. Most of the best fights in MMA ended in decisions. Shit last years FOTY candidates had 1 finish.
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Bendo doesn't try though..

Hendo/Shougun Couture/Rizzo 1 went the distance and they were awesome fights.. all he cares about is W, I suppose the UFC's win structure is part to blame.. but real fighters go for the finish, ala Wand, Shogun, Chuck, Fedor.
 
DCarf said:
I find guys like Diego Sanchez and Benson Henderson boring because there is almost 0 chance the fight will be finished in either way. It seems as if Benson doesn't take any risks which makes for a boring fight.
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Benson takes many risks. You definitely need to see the Diaz and Guida fights. He was going balls to the wall.

You don't think Sanchez is exciting? That's mind boggling shit right there.
 
Fujita said:
Bendo doesn't try though..

Hendo/Shougun Couture/Rizzo 1 went the distance and they were awesome fights.. all he cares about his W, I supposed the UFC's win structure is part to blame.. but real fighters go for the finish, ala Wand, Shogun, Chuck, Fedor.
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Real fighters? Benson almost finished Edgar with that up-kick. He finished Cerrone. Cerrone is a finisher. Benson beat him quite quickly in their rematch. What do you know about being a real fighter, by the way?

So in order for someone to be a 'real fighter', they have to approach a fight with reckless abandon and no regard for themselves, solely to entertain, regardless of strategies to win the fight and maintain employment. Jesus ...
 
Ippy said:
I think this is very clear and concise reasoning for why he goes to decisions all the time.



What's the name of this fallacy? Association?

Anyway, believe it or not, it's entirely possible to like to watch a guy fight, despite his apparent inability to finish. He's in constant motion, is always pushing the pace, and if he's clearly more skilled than his opposition, he does the exact opposite of point fight. He pours it on even more.

And I DARE you to tell me that I'm an elitist MMA fan who can see the "technical aspects" of fighting.
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He definitely point fights. Never goes for finish.

There are just some fans who would never admit that a fight was boring. Usually the same ones who are in love with the smaller weight classes
 
DCarf said:
My point is IF a team could run the ball for 4 yards every play that would equal to a touchdown every drive unless there was a penalty. Benson knows he can just run for 4 or 5 yards every single play so why risk an interception by throwing? Benson knows he can just cruise and fix his hair and win the fight. There was 0 risk of losing to Nate Diaz yet he didn't push the pace harder later in the fight.
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There is a difference between trying to finish a fight, and taking unnecessary risks. He dropped Nate and beat him up pretty good, that was not a boring fight.

What Anderson did in the Maia fight was boring. He did not engage and ran around. To say Bendo is boring because he can't finish guys doesn't make sense. I'm not sure what you want him to do?
 
Was pleasantly surprised to see the majority leaning towards no. You can call Bendo's fights close/controversial/robberies/whatever the fuck else tickles your fancy, they aren't boring.
 
Fujita said:
Bendo doesn't try though..

Hendo/Shougun Couture/Rizzo 1 went the distance and they were awesome fights.. all he cares about his W, I suppose the UFC's win structure is part to blame.. but real fighters go for the finish, ala Wand, Shogun, Chuck, Fedor.
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I don't see how he doesn't try. He beat the dog shit out of Miller, tried to pounce on Edgar several times including kicks from crazy positions. Shit in the fight against Thomson he had 3 submission attempts.
 
Benson is always fun to watch. Always working and it makes for good fights with top fighters.
 
Yes. Incredibly boring.

Clinch... push against the cage... 'kick' him in the calf... jab the knee...
 
Substance Abuse said:
Benson takes many risks. You definitely need to see the Diaz and Guida fights. He was going balls to the wall.

You don't think Sanchez is exciting? That's mind boggling shit right there.
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Diego v Guida was boring to me. I just hate both guys and have 0 interest ever watching them fight. Diego recently is terrible he just swings and misses while getting punched in the face then wins a decision.
 
He isnt boring, but as others have noted he tends to coast and a sense of urgency could really help the guy.
 
benson vs guida was one hell of a figt i know that much.
 
jlazer said:
He definitely point fights. Never goes for finish.

There are just some fans who would never admit that a fight was boring. Usually the same ones who are in love with the smaller weight classes
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He almost finished several of his UFC fights, including Diaz, Miller, and Edgar 1.

Not being able to seal the deal, and not trying, or two entirely different things.
 
Non said:
I don't see how he doesn't try. He beat the dog shit out of Miller, tried to pounce on Edgar several times including kicks from crazy positions. Shit in the fight against Thomson he had 3 submission attempts.
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Exactly. He went for a sub. He took Thomson down and immediately went into side control and started dropping elbows on Thomson's head. He nearly finished Edgar with that up-kick and that kick off the ground to Edgar's neck was brutal. He beat the shit out of Miller and Guida and despite outclassing them, kept pushing the pace of the fight for it's entirety.

He may not be getting these finishes, but it's not as if he's just fighting for the sake to score points. He's doing what he can, it's just not yielding finishes. When people say someone is point fighting, I find it funny. Do they really think the guy is just trying to ride out twenty-five minutes?

I think more so Benson is aware that the guys he's fighting are cumbersome to finish. How many times have Diaz, Melendez, Edgar, Guida, Miller and Thomson been finished? Aggregate total is probably few. He's fighting aggressive in these bouts, pushing the pace. The finishes just aren't happening because the skill level is close and these guys are tough to finish.
 
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