Social Do you believe a person can be born evil?

[UberHere]

I'm the biggest critic of Abrahamic religion on the site doofus, lol.

You use the concept of "evil" as most came to understand it in a biblical sense. I'm explaining that doesn't exist....but somehow I'm religious? I think my earlier assessment about your mental faculties being on par with Beavis was pretty astute.

No I haven’t. I’m using in the framework of how our society has constructed morality. You sound like someone who went to Catholic school and never learned critical thinking

 

[Natural Order]

No I haven’t. I’m using in the framework of how our society has constructed morality. You sound like someone who went to Catholic school and never learned critical thinking

And yet you're using a word framed straight from the concept of Abrahamic religion.

Critical thinking would absolutely NOT impart the opinion that babies are born as literal anti-Christs.

ROFL.

 

[El Panteron]

Psychology? Proof. lol Good one.

What exactly do you think we're discussing here?

I said we're blank slates

We aren't. That's been proven.

those from broken/abusive homes are left to figure much of morality out on their own and are higher risk candidates for not aligning with modern morality.

But this would make it so only people coming from broken homes are cruel. I assume you know this isn't true.
The fact that coming from a broken home or difficult past puts you at risk is not up for debate. I haven't seen people here dispute it. What's up for debate is if there's genetic or innate factors that push those people and other people with different backgrounds to cruelty. There probably is but this hasn't been proven.
When I say genetic factors I'm not saying there's a path chosen from the start, these factors have to interact with the environment and early relationships still.

 

[Natural Order]

Babies in utero have somehow physically evolved to match the shifting morality of society when they come out!

It's a modern day miracle!

 

[El Panteron]

And yet you're using a word framed straight from the concept of Abrahamic religion..

Brother the jews didn't invent evil lol

 

[Natural Order]

What exactly do you think we're discussing here?



We aren't. That's been proven.



But this would make it so only people coming from broken homes are cruel. I assume you know this isn't true.
The fact that coming from a broken home or difficult past puts you at risk is not up for debate. I haven't seen people here dispute it. What's up for debate is if there's genetic or innate factors that push those people and other people with different backgrounds to cruelty. There probably is but this hasn't been proven.
When I say genetic factors I'm not saying there's a path chosen from the start, these factors have to interact with the environment and early relationships still.

Psychology. Your claim of "proof" within the disciple is what drew the laugh. But you knew this.

 

[Natural Order]

Brother the jews didn't invent evil lol

Wickedness is literally defined as an act against the nature of God.

Imagine thinking concepts like evil existed in the primitive mind before religion was organized. LOL.

 

[Natural Order]

The babies know in utero what the accepted levels of morality are where they're coming out! Genetics must imprint a code letting them know!

The opposite of believing that babies are born inherently evil is that they're born inherently good. Are we getting into religion again......?

 

[Natural Order]

The schizophrenic's evil is contained with modern medicine. It helps keep the evil at bay!

You guys aren't substituting "chemical imbalance/faulty specimen" for a metaphysical evil, are you?

 

[UberHere]

And yet you're using a word framed straight from the concept of Abrahamic religion.

Critical thinking would absolutely NOT impart the opinion that babies are born as literal anti-Christs.

ROFL.

TS specifically used the word evil, but since I’m not a retard, I know it is a word used interchangeably with other modern words such as amoral and heinous.

 

[El Panteron]

Psychology. Your claim of "proof" within the disciple is what drew the laugh. But you knew this.

Oh no random internet moron doesn't value my career! Running to resign as we speak

 

[UberHere]

The schizophrenic's evil is contained with modern medicine. It helps keep the evil at bay!

You guys aren't substituting "chemical imbalance/faulty specimen" for a metaphysical evil, are you?

A schizophrenic who has no grasp on reality or any ability to reason at the time he/she commits an “evil” act would not be referred to as evil. Dangerous, but not evil. Not sure what point you’re trying to make here.

 

[Takes Two To Tango]

What is evil then? You are imparting fantastical claims without evidence.

Obviously it's subjective, but I think there is a universal understanding of what is evil to most people in the world.

Like premeditated murder or rape.

 

[Natural Order]

Obviously it's subjective, but I think there is a universal understanding of what is evil to most people in the world.

Like premeditated murder or rape.

We should all be able to feel the disgust at seeing life snuffed out with flippant behavior. Most of us, regardless of culture divide, try to teach our offspring the value and beauty of life.

But if you're raised not to see the value in life, it's not really that difficult to see why we keep seeing the results we do. Evil is a path with many drivers that steered a 10 year old to that fate. To claim they were born already with the gas pedal down and an evolutionary affront is a bit far for my logic.

 

[Jack Reacheround]

Of course not, what a ludicrous question.

They may have mental health issues or another condition that leads them to making decisions others deem ‘evil’, but to believe they are born with hatred and malice in their being is absurd. Only religious retards would answer yes to this.

I’m not religious. But the same way people are born with a predisposition toward, say, addiction, people can be born with a predisposition toward psychopathy.

Now, whether or not psychopathy is actually evil, or if evil truly even exists, is a philosophical discussion. But for the sake of this thread I think we can all agree that we consider it evil since psychopaths typically do things we consider to be evil acts, like kill people for no reason.

 

[El Panteron]

We should all be able to feel the disgust at seeing life snuffed out with flippant behavior. Most of us, regardless of culture divide, try to teach our offspring the value and beauty of life.

But if you're raised not to see the value in life, it's not really that difficult to see why we keep seeing the results we do. Evil is a path with many drivers that steered a 10 year old to that fate. To claim they were born already with the gas pedal down and an evolutionary affront is a bit far for my logic.

What logic? Your claim that humans are a blank slate has been disproven, we know humans are born with certain inclinations, and the overwhelming majority of researchers have settled on interaction theories: being that genes interact with the environment to carve out our paths.
Your view is shit out of philosophy from 3 centuries ago.

Also laughed at "evolutionary affront", first you're the only one I've seen talking about "faulty specimens", second you only need to think for a second to see how aggression can be advantageous to a species, third evolution doesn't work rationally, the genes of whoever gets to fuck get passed.

 

[Berserker13]

What logic? Your claim that humans are a blank slate has been disproven, we know humans are born with certain inclinations, and the overwhelming majority of researchers have settled on interaction theories: being that genes interact with the environment to carve out our paths.
Your view is shit out of philosophy from 3 centuries ago.

Also laughed at "evolutionary affront", first you're the only one I've seen talking about "faulty specimens", second you only need to think for a second to see how aggression can be advantageous to a species, third evolution doesn't work rationally, the genes of whoever gets to fuck get passed.

It's almost like these guys think they are smart....

 

[El Panteron]

It's almost like these guys think they are smart....

Get ready for him to answer with "chimps are evil!!!!!" for the billionth time

 

[SalvadorAllende]

Wow. I'm surprised at the result. It's currently 9 yes, 1 no. The no being me.

I think people are generally molted by their environment they are exposed to. What is acceptable what isn't, actions or thoughts.

Also I might add, doing bad things doesn't necessary make a person evil.

IDK bro...

A psychopath is a psychopath from birth. There is no way around that.


I guess it also depends on what we consider evil.. right?

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Firstly, I'm an atheist, secondly, I believe babies can be born evil, through genetics. 2 year old James Bulger was murdered on a train track, beat to death by two 10 year old kids that had a loving upbringing. 51 people so far here think you're retarded.

Dude read up on Robert Thompson. Him having a loving upbringing couldn't be further from the truth