Do you appreciate WMMA?

[Fuzzybabyducks]

Either way I like WMMA and so do many others .. The ratings on fox, Rondas PPV numbers, polls and opinion on here ... They put on fun fights . Id watch JJ fight over two gassed HWs any day

 

[DatWall]

I used to feel the same way about women's fights. The "women shouldn't be hit" thing is so ingrained into a lot of men with how they were raised, that it can take some time to re-wire your brain. You absolutely should re-wire it, though, because saying "violent girl fights are repulsive" is just another way of saying "I don't respect these women as adults or athletes capable of making their own choices and they need me to protect them from themselves." Which, when you lay it out on the table, is a really insulting and demeaning way to view women, albeit well-intended.

If seeing a women being savagely beaten no longer repulses you because you've desensitized yourself for the reasons you listed, then you've given up a part of your humanity for the sake of being a politically correct and a better consumer. I consider my reaction to seeing stuff like that a laudable biological response, and have no desire or intention to change that. Especially if the only reason is so the UFC can sell me more products I didn't even want in the first place.

 

[SnitchInsider]

If seeing a women being savagely beaten no longer repulses you because you've desensitized yourself for the reasons you listed, then you've given up a part of your humanity for the sake of being a politically correct and a better consumer. I consider my reaction to seeing stuff like that a laudable biological response, and have no desire or intention to change that. Especially if the only reason is so the UFC can sell me more products I didn't even want in the first place.

Saying you like violent MMA fights (in concept), but are repulsed by seeing women involved in violent MMA fights (in concept), is sexist. You never used the words savagely beaten until just now. I don't like watching anyone savagely beaten, man or woman.

This doesn't need to be explained any further than what I already said. The only thing you're replying with here is emotion. I didn't say it's not a normalized response in men. I said that I, too, went through that stage. However just because something is a common thought or response, doesn't make it correct. What makes it correct is using logic and reason to understand what underpins those feelings and moving forward from there.

So, I will once again repeat:

...saying "violent girl fights are repulsive" [when you admittedly praise violent male fights] is just another way of saying "I don't respect these women as adults or athletes capable of making their own choices and they need me to protect them from themselves." Which, when you lay it out on the table, is a really insulting and demeaning way to view women, albeit well-intended.

 

[DatWall]

Saying you like violent MMA fights (in concept), but are repulsed by seeing women involved in violent MMA fights (in concept), is sexist. You never used the words savagely beaten until just now. I don't like watching anyone savagely beaten, man or woman.

This doesn't need to be explained any further than what I already said. The only thing you're replying with here is emotion. I didn't say it's not a normalized response in men. I said that I, too, went through that stage. However just because something is a common thought or response, doesn't make it correct. What makes it correct is using logic and reason to understand what underpins those feelings.

So, I will once again repeat:

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Savagely beaten may have been unnecessary choice of words, I don't like seeing anyone savagely beaten either, but the level of violence that I enjoy in (male) combat sports, is far more than I care to see women subject to. Having said that, gtfo of here with this "sexist" shit, signalling how progressive and virtuous you are won't win you any points here. We can agree to disagree, I don't want one bit of what you're selling.

 

[SnitchInsider]

Savagely beaten may have been unnecessary choice of words, I don't like seeing anyone savagely beaten either, but the level of violence that I enjoy in (male) combat sports, is far more than I care to see women subject to. Having said that, gtfo of here with this "sexist" shit, signalling how progressive and virtuous you are won't win you any points here. We can agree to disagree, I don't want one bit of what you're selling.

I'm not the one here espousing virtuosity. That would be your statement. The only thing I'm espousing is to treat the decisions made by adult female athletes with the same respect as you do those very decisions by adult men. You praise men "going to war" in MMA fights, but call females doing the same thing repulsive. *Why is it repulsive?*

These are adult women making a conscious choice to compete in MMA. If you have a gut repulsion to seeing them swing on one another when you don't have that same feeling towards men, it's a problem with your acceptance of them as athletes and as autonomous beings with the right to consent. We're not talking about being worried about seeing a woman being hit in the streets, or by someone much larger. We're talking about the same consenting behavior male fighters sign up for.

 

[TIMELESS TRUTH]

If seeing a women being savagely beaten no longer repulses you because you've desensitized yourself for the reasons you listed, then you've given up a part of your humanity for the sake of being a politically correct and a better consumer. I consider my reaction to seeing stuff like that a laudable biological response, and have no desire or intention to change that. Especially if the only reason is so the UFC can sell me more products I didn't even want in the first place.

Wow, I get what you're saying... but you're such a fucking pussy it's pathetic.