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Do you agree with both Gus/Jones and Lawler/Condit decisions ?

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  1. dildos Steel Belt

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    yes.

    but i disagree with the following.
    - machida vs rua 1
    - bj penn vs edgar 1
    - gsp vs hendricks
    - hendricks vs lawler 2
     
  2. Jimmy jump Banned Banned

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    Jones - Gus I can see why Jones sneaked it even though he took a kicking.

    Condit was robbed IMO. He clearly won 3 of the 4 rounds.
     
  3. Bewareofdawg Banned Banned

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    Was an all around ridiculous decision. Crosby had it 5 rounds to 0 for Edgar. What the actual fuck????
     
  4. Codpiece Not afraid to care

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    What does that have to do with anything?


    I thought both decisions were wrong. Gus and Jones was close but I've watched that fight a lot of times (it's a great fight) and I cannot see a good argument for Jones winning any of the first three rounds. He was outstruck in volume and quality (narrowly in both respects, but still 10-9's) in all three rounds. Round two was close enough that it could be called a draw if one were feeling generous to Jones, but he didn't win that round.

    Condit/Lawler was less close. Lawler won rounds two and five, Condit won one and four - I think those rounds were fairly clear. Round three was a bit tighter, both men landed some decent strikes, neither was badly hurt but Condit landed far more and dictated much of the pace of the round. When he was aggressive in that round he landed - satisfying the 'effective aggression' criteria. There's no solid argument for Lawler winning the third round against Condit unless you give Lawler carryover credit for Diaz 1, 2, 5.
     
  5. Codpiece Not afraid to care

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    Both guys were spent at the end of Condit/Lawler. They were in almost equal shape.

    Jones finished strongly, he has the heart of a champ for sure. Striking was actually almost completely even in the fifth round of Gus/Jones except for Jones' partially landed flying knee and some other nice strikes in the dying second of the round.

    Whatever you think of Jones, one must accept that his will to win is second to none. That he rallied like that at the end of the fight and then needed to go to hospital after the fight shows his ability to oush through pain and fatigue to finish like a champion. A shame his willpower seems limited to in-competition situations.
     
  6. ermac88 Silver Belt

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    if its any consolation-
    Gus would have immediately lost the belt to Rumble and/or DC
     
  7. ivory suit Purple Belt

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    an unbiased opinion is that Jones did enough to win.

    The 5th round Gus was just surviving.
     
  8. IntelligenceQuo Banned Banned

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    Gus got crushed
     
  9. Soul On Ice Banned Banned

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    Gus X Jones was a draw
    Condit got jerked by the judges and I look forward to seeing him try to defend his title against Maia at 202
     
  10. mmafighterEU Blue Belt

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    Just like Jones did when he immediately lost to coke, a pregnant woman and estrogen blockers?
     
  11. Jon Stark King in the North Platinum Member

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    The guys that won the 5th round, won the fight. I like that however I scored it Gus 48-47 and Condit 48-47
     
  12. Money509 A Level Poster

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    Jones 2,4,5
     
  13. steliokontos Nunchaku Suspenders

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    Gus V Jones - I feel Gus did more damage round 1 and therefore won 3 to 2.

    Condit V Lawler - This fight is a strange one, I had Robbie winning, here is why:

    Condit through 495 strikes and landed 176, he was missing a lot, and therefore was ineffective. Round 3 was the one to pick in this one,

    Condit through 78 and landed 22
    Robbie through 26 and landed 11

    Even though Robbie landed half the strikes, he was way more accurate and efficient, also Condit was moving forward, and missing, which means it isn't counted as effective aggression.

    According to the judging criteria:
    The heavier striker who lands with efficiency, deserves more credit from the Judges than total
    number landed.


    . Effective Aggressiveness
    1. This simply means who is moving forward and finding success.(scoring)
    2. Throwing a strike moving backwards is not as effective as a strike thrown moving forward.
    3. Throwing strikes and not landing is not effective aggressiveness.
    4. Moving forward and getting struck is not effective aggressiveness.
     
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    Did not agree with Lawler/Condit.....its ok to land less if you are being the aggressor and pushing the action....but to me if you backing up most of the round while throwing and landing less without seriously hurting your opponent, you lose the round....

    Jones/Gus i agreed with whole heartedly. I had it even going into the fifth round and jones managed to do less nothing than gus did....
     
  15. Sgt Smith Bassed God

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    I agreed with both decisions, but also thought they were incredibly close fights. A couple of really tough fights to judge.
     
  16. Italian Brock Banned Banned

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    Not close...jones won 49-46.. Confit beat lawlor..
     
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    Jones beat Gus clearly, without the emotions of it all.. it was not really close. 4-1 to Jones, but can be fair and say 3-2 to Jones.. thats being kind.

    Condit beat Lawler 3-2 I think.. but it was very close.
     
  18. SingerAuto Purple Belt

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    Jones won, and Condit got robbed
    Jones 2,4,5.


    Don't remember how exactly I scored Condit/Lawler, just know I had Condit winning.
     
  19. Wrapup Purple Belt

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    I agree with this.

    Condit fight was close though, I thought he won but not upset at the direction it went.
     
  20. Hazuki Ryo Purple Belt

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    I had Condit winning rounds 1 and 4 and Robbie 2 and 3 clearly. you could argue about the 5th but i think Robbie's heavy bombs earned him the fight.
     

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