Elections DNC today in Chicago

[SKYNET]

TLDR

Aww what happened? is it past your sweepy, nappy time already, where's all that usual spunk and energy?

No worries. what happens in the PMs stays in the PMs. I got your back.

 

[RoastBeast]

What exactly had Clinton done in the political realm lately?

And what the absolute blathering fuck are you talking about with Trump? I can’t follow your line of thinking

That's what happens when you butt into someone else's conversation. If you don't know what we're talking about, then don't respond.

 

[RoastBeast]

There's no logic to it. Think of it like a dog barking at someone on his territory.

She wanted to bring up morals, as in Trump being a cheater, so we're talking about cheaters. Either follow along or don't respond. You guys are just attempting to jump in with lame "gotchas" when you don't even know what we're talking about.

 

[Ares Black]

In regards to the border, she can meet with people. She can hear concerns, she can maybe elicit verbal agreements from countries south of the border (whether or not they follow through is another matter), and she can make policy recommendations. I suppose she can help try and negotiate deals, VPs do that sometimes. But the truth is that her power—and the power of any VP—to directly fix immigration and border issues is limited.

You ask who has the power? How about Congress for starters? This is the most do-nothing Congress in the modern era. How about the GOP stop endlessly trying to bounce their Speaker, and stop threatening government shutdowns, and do some damn work? Even when we reached across the aisle and put together an immigration bill with things both sides can agree on, those lazy fucks couldn’t be bothered to vote on it. They wanted instead to waste time impeaching Mayorkas for “doing nothing about the border” while they—the ones with power to pass laws—simultaneously did nothing about the border. Peak Republican behavior.

This is something that needs to be said every time these dipshits talk about the border crisis. Trump and his cronies don't want to solve the problem. They want to use it as a campaign strategy.

 

[Ares Black]

Aww what happened? is it past your sweepy, nappy time already, where's all that usual spunk and energy?

I was kidding. I read it, it was very weird.

I'm starting to think this Tim Walz fella might be on to something!

 

[DoctorTaco]

That's what happens when you butt into someone else's conversation. If you don't know what we're talking about, then don't respond.

Right. Your whataboutism makes sense in the context of your conversation. Ok bud

 

[fingercuffs]

Exactly my point. You aren't here to preach morality. You're here to bitch about Trump. So stop pretending like morals are a priority for you when it comes to the people who lead our country because obviously they don't matter. You're just using them as an excuse because propaganda has twisted your brain to become obsessed with Trump.

You still can't say which parts he actually did are propaganda can you?

 

[DoctorTaco]

There's no logic to it. Think of it like a dog barking at someone on his territory.

Right. We need to buy him a silly costume so that it’s not as threatening to people out for a while walk. Can do!

 

[SKYNET]

Too bad, even if Walz apologized, you would take it as a concession that Walz is an asshole

so just create a hypothetical situation and dishonestly frame my postion to this phantom scenario you made up, which does nothing to change my impressions of Walz, but most certainly lowers my impressions of you, which was already at a very low point.

like you did with Biden for apologizing for his racist comments.

Are we accepting apologies from racists in 2024?...or did your side, along with Biden, openly extend an olive branch and cozy up to historically nasty, bitter racists and segregationists who clearly were afforded as much leeway as possible so they could join the good guys and put D's in front of their names?

You love to show how stupid you are and you never fail to impress that upon me.

 

[SKYNET]

I was kidding. I read it, it was very weird.
I'm starting to think this Tim Walz fella might be on to something!

That's the Ares Black spirit!!!

 

[emefer]

lol at the av tech having audio problems. Had to be scripted.

 

[Islam Imamate]

You're being selective. Obama and Biden were racially divisive. Mentioning to black voters Mitt Romney of all people was going to "put them back in chains" and Obama interjecting on the treyvon martain case that if he had a son "he would look like treyvon" which is an especially damning thing to do when your the sitting US president. Biden also stated something about going back to the Jim Crow era around the same time. All this and more sparked racial and anti police tensions that we still haven't recovered from. It reinforced narratives that the police were out to get or kill black people, causing more of them to freak out after a routine traffic stop. Also consider abortion rhetoric between then and now.

Consider the establishment media doing absolutely nothing but inflaming all of this and never holding his administration or Hilary Clinton to account for anything. Which is the entire point of having journalism in the first place.

I'm not here to point out that they are worse than Trump, or Hillary is worse or either way. It's to point out that we have been heading this way for awhile, even before trump

I reject the idea that either Obama or Biden were ever anywhere near as divisive as Trump was from the very beginning, its absurd to compare them at all really. Obama was racially divisive because at the time the idea of having a black president was controversial to some folks but as far as his rhetoric and that of Biden and really any other politician its far more tame than Trump who to this day claims the 2020 election was stolen and only officially conceded it after his coup failed and even then without acknowledging that he lost fair and square. The kind of rhetoric and reckless action that culminated in Jan 6th is far more divisive and toxic than anything any politician in recent American history has done.

I see it differently. When I say Walz is a POS, it's not because he is worse or as bad as Trump, or beyond the pale. I think he's a POS, a bad person, a negative influence on politics, but not Trump. The lesser evil, and Walz played the part.

I expect that the DNC can at the very least practice what they preach, which is a diversion from Trump. Instead we get the same low level junk he offers. Why? Who says new fresh blood in politics has.a need to continue down this path and work towards elevating things back to a point that used to exist, where our leaders were qualified and acted the part with dignity? This whole notion that all civility is out the door is asinine. It's lazy at its essence.

We move on from Trump by showing examples that his style does not work. That his political toxicity is just an anomaly, a bad influence at the wrong time in our history. Instead you are chopping off your noses to spite your own face. When I see these fresh new faces I expect that they both move out of Trumps shadow of influence and rescue what I believe is left of political decorum. We need positivity, unity. I understand the vitriol everyone has for Trump, I really do, but I don't share this same defeated mentality as we head out of the Trump era that you seem to have.

To be clear you're melting down this hard because Walz said this:

"And I gotta tell ya; I can't wait to debate this guy, that's if he's willing to get off the couch and show up.

This is nowhere comparable to what has been normalized in the Trump era like accusing Hillary Clinton of having assassinated people or accusing Obama of not having been born in the US. Its absurd and you look like a crybaby whining about it this much. The fact that you had nothing to say all these years while Trump putrefied the national discourse and yet this is your red line is telling. Democrats and liberals should never give into this kind of bad faith browbeating, they should spit in its face.

 

[Jack V Savage]

She wanted to bring up morals, as in Trump being a cheater, so we're talking about cheaters.

And your principled belief is that being cheated on is equivalent to cheating? Do you feel the same way about other actions? "Those evil Dems say that they don't like murderers, but they celebrate MLK, who was murdered."

 

[SKYNET]

To be clear you're melting down this hard because Walz said this:

Yes, yes, hip hip, hooray, everyone, I'm melting down, guilty as charged.

What are you gonna do about it? You want to rename the meltdown of the year award to SKYNET the Can award. lol Nothing would fill me with pride more.

Your assessment of my contributions here mean as much to me as the floaters I flushed down after breakfast, but you keep up the good work you are doing here.

This is nowhere comparable to what has been normalized in the Trump era like accusing Hillary Clinton of having assassinated people or accusing Obama of not having been born in the US. Its absurd and you look like a crybaby whining about it this much. The fact that you had nothing to say all these years while Trump putrefied the national discourse and yet this is your red line is telling. Democrats and liberals should never give into this kind of bad faith browbeating, they should spit in its face.

I understand how horrible everyone thinks Vance is, and I am sure many of you will do your best to constantly remind me of this and perhaps the inundation of negatives revealed to me will shape my views on him to properly align with yours, but until that point, Walz and Vance, the two fresh faces for a casual like me, are the focus for me in this situation (not Trump) and Vance wasnt the POS who used low level tactics that a POS like Trump would undoubtedly prescribe. No, it was Walz, and I totally understand how the left feels so victimized by Trump over the past decade that Walz has carte blanche to engage and attack the purest evil imaginable, in any way he sees fit. There is no room for any criticisms without proper deflection towards Trump, Vance, Maga, The right wing, Faux News, Elon Musk, Joe Rogan, etc. etc. pick your flavor of poison before you dare examine the great Timmy Walz.

I don't give passes to the DNC for pointing out how shitty Trump is just so they can lower the bar and engage on his level. Mock me, ridicule me, vote for me as biggest asshole of the year, whatever gets your rocks off is cool with me. Bottom line is Walz did a shitty thing however minor you may think, that Vance being Vance as you so eloquently put it, did not prompt and to my knowledge Walz hasn't apologized.

There you go, carry on now

 

[ShadowRun]

She wanted to bring up morals, as in Trump being a cheater, so we're talking about cheaters. Either follow along or don't respond. You guys are just attempting to jump in with lame "gotchas" when you don't even know what we're talking about.

I’m convinced since his AV changed some low IQ hacker or his 12 year old has taken over and post here. Or.. adopted Biden’s brain , that’s how fast he’s declined here the last year or two

 

[ShadowRun]

 

[shockaholic12]

No idea what that idiot says.

Either she was a DEI pick in a ceremonial position which has zero power or she was in a position as the “last person in the room” held sway in an administration with HER NAME ON IT.

If being VP is her greatest accomplishment, it’s hilarious hearing the left say she actually didn’t do anything in that positions all in an attempt to say she is going to come in and do completely different things than Biden. Biden, who just a few weeks ago was an incredible President.

Now the sheep think Harris will be even better!

It’s all just hilarious kabuki played by idiots who think any of these politicians have their interests at heart.

This is pretty dumb. 15 vice presidents have become president. “Ceremonial position”? As if taking on the role of president of the United States if something happened to old Biden would just be a “ceremony” and nothing more. Derp.

Everyone and their mom knew Biden likely wasn’t making it 2 terms and she would be the presumptive replacement and voted for Biden’s ticket with that knowledge.

As VP she led voting rights efforts, maternal health rights efforts, pushed gun regulations, etc. Voters seem to like her position on those over trump and JD and trust her to take the mantle on from Joe and some think she may even do better since she’s not old as fuck. Nothing about that makes them sheep.

Is her white guy VP pick a DEI hire because it adds diversify to the ticket? Why is that label only used around here for black politicians?

You're trying too hard and repeating some right wing copy and paste talking points and looking a little sheepish yourself.

 

[Ares Black]

Yes, yes, hip hip, hooray, everyone, I'm melting down, guilty as charged.

What are you gonna do about it? You want to rename the meltdown of the year award to SKYNET the Can award. lol Nothing would fill me with pride more.

Your assessment of my contributions here mean as much to me as the floaters I flushed down after breakfast, but you keep up the good work you are doing here.




There you go, carry on now

I honestly get the impression that you have never really heard Tim Walz speak and don't actually know who he is. In context his comment about Vance is a non-issue, and your reaction to it is not rational.

It feels like you heard he made fun of JD Vance and were told to be offended, but you aren't entirely sure why.

 

[RoastBeast]

And your principled belief is that being cheated on is equivalent to cheating? Do you feel the same way about other actions? "Those evil Dems say that they don't like murderers, but they celebrate MLK, who was murdered."

No, my principled belief is you shouldn't cheat and if you are cheated on, you shouldn't stay with your husband so you can stay in a rich and powerful position. To pretend like they stayed together because they're family people is ridiculous. Hilary stayed with him because he was one of the most powerful people in the world and it allowed her to eventually run for the presidency based on his achievements. Teaching girls to stay with cheaters so you can get ahead in life is not what good people do.

Also if someone is anti cheating, then they should be anti cheating when it comes to their political foes as well as their political allies. Otherwise that makes you a hypocrite.

Go ahead and twist away Jack.

 

[RoastBeast]

I’m convinced since his AV changed some low IQ hacker or his 12 year old has taken over and post here. Other adopted Biden’s brain , that’s how fast he’s declined here the last year or two

He's just leaned into full troll mode. I rarely engage with him because of this but I had a weak moment today lol