Elections DNC today in Chicago

[jeremyemilio]

Almost certainly sample size issues. It's not cost efffective to try and break out Muslim Americans into specific groups, past basic demographic details. A problem you don't get with Christian groups at this point.

I'm comparing America to America. You don't get much more apples to apples than that in a discussion about American politics.

I feel like you haven't done your basic napkin math on the sample sizes required to break out the Muslim American population.

I understand the logistical issues completely. But those logistics still result in skewed data.

The solution, of course, is to "unsplinter" the Christian cohort. Then you would have an apples to apples comparison. That doesn't mean that the splintered data isn't worth collecting or looking at. Just that it's only really useful as an in-group investigation of different subsets of Christians. For the broader comparison across religions, you need to zoom out on Christians to match the sort of data (like to like) that you are using for Muslims and Buddhists. Otherwise you have skewed data.

I hope that makes sense.

I feel like the larger point you are attempting to make is one I agree with: People aren't always so easy to pin down by demographic and, as such, it's ignorant to paint all Muslims with the same brush as some Muslims are actually more tolerant than some Christians. But the data you've used to illustrate that point is faulty.

 

[Possum Jenkins]

Some people just don't want kids. And frankly I'd rather those people not have accident kids they never wanted in the first place.

Also, the libs quite clearly want to breed white people out of existence so it makes no sense to offer these services at the DNC, where all the ethnics congregate.

I mean, it's White Replacement 101 here.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Wouldn't matter without Pennsylvania, it's still 276 EC votes even if she won AZ, but it's a border state and the border and economy are their top 2 issues, and abortion is now an issue for state races.

Arizona is practically a suburb of California at this point, and the abortion issue is a much bigger motivator for liberal women to vote.

Although the economy & border are big issues the polls in AZ are very close, so the recent announcement that abortion will be on the ballot will probably be the difference-maker.



By the way, new poll today out of Pennsylvania -

Trump 47%, Harris 46%
Conducted August 18-19; 800 Likely Voters: Margin of Error 3.46%

PollingPlus Exclusive: InsiderAdvantage Survey of Pennsylvania | Polling+

Trump 47%, Harris 46% Conducted August 18-19; 800 Likely Voters: Margin of Error 3.46% The latest InsiderAdvantage survey of Pennsylvania shows Donald Trump and Kamala Harris in a very tight race with Trump leading by one point. The Results: Donald Trump: 47% Kamala Harris: 46% Other: 3%...

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Completely useless.

 

[fingercuffs]

Getting started early on Project 2025, give em hell lol.

 

[syct23]

Also, the libs quite clearly want to breed white people out of existence so it makes no sense to offer these services at the DNC, where all the ethnics congregate.

I mean, it's White Replacement 101 here.

YUP!

 

[Snubnoze707]

No, you don’t need to bring your lube out yet.

Damn, I was all ready to go...

 

[avenue94]

The solution, of course, is to "unsplinter" the Christian cohort. Then you would have an apples to apples comparison. That doesn't mean that the splintered data isn't worth collecting or looking at. Just that it's only really useful as an in-group investigation of different subsets of Christians. For the broader comparison across religions, you need to zoom out on Christians to match the sort of data (like to like) that you are using for Muslims and Buddhists. Otherwise you have skewed data.

I hope that makes sense.

Somewhat but I'm not sure you're really going to see huge differences in political views based on sect or branch of Islam. You're more likely to see differences tied to income and immigration status/ethnicity, which heavily intersect. You also see lower levels of political involvement overall in Muslim Americans compared to the other religious lobbies for multiple reasons. Finally, if there were huge differences within Muslim American subpopulations, you'd see a far lower score from them dragging down the average (it's pretty unlikely that opinions about gay marriage are only on the extremes for the major Muslim American subgroups).

At any rate, I didn't compare Muslim Americans to Christians, I've been clear all along that I was comparing them to various Christian populations.

 

[emefer]

I'd like to visit Crater Lake one day.

I didn’t make it there but spent a few days traveling along the coast. It’s freakin gorgeous.

 

[emefer]

Didn’t Jesse smear MLKs blood on his shirt and pretend he was present during the assassination?

 

[badascan]

Can't wait to see how this is spun by the geriatric media to be the greatest thing since Lil Poozie performed on whichever platform they tout as the hip new thing...

What an absolute joke of an event. I will watch parts of it as I did the least gross parts of the other convention in Milwaukee

I predict it will be kept behind closed doors as much as possible and these "protests" will lead the propaganda tales as a distraction from the embarrassing fakery sold at the convention...

 

[syct23]

Didn’t Jesse smear MLKs blood on his shirt and pretend he was present during the assassination?

Jesse once gave a church sermon that had more people attending then the MLK speech..

 

[idrankyourbeer]

this DNC convention has been the greatest thing since Lil Poozie performed on truth social.

 

[Joe]

this DNC convention has been the greatest thing since Lil Poozie performed on truth social.

strong female presence. Unlike the sausage fest of the rnc

 

[nostradumbass]

Arizona is practically a suburb of California at this point, and the abortion issue is a much bigger motivator for liberal women to vote.

Although the economy & border are big issues the polls in AZ are very close, so the recent announcement that abortion will be on the ballot will probably be the difference-maker.



By the way, new poll today out of Pennsylvania -

Trump 47%, Harris 46%
Conducted August 18-19; 800 Likely Voters: Margin of Error 3.46%

PollingPlus Exclusive: InsiderAdvantage Survey of Pennsylvania | Polling+

Trump 47%, Harris 46% Conducted August 18-19; 800 Likely Voters: Margin of Error 3.46% The latest InsiderAdvantage survey of Pennsylvania shows Donald Trump and Kamala Harris in a very tight race with Trump leading by one point. The Results: Donald Trump: 47% Kamala Harris: 46% Other: 3%...

pollingplus.com

Completely useless.

Single women already vote dem by like 50 points regardless, married women vote republican by 5-10 points and aren't changing their minds over abortion. Plus, there is some chance that she'll eventually be asked if she thinks abortion is a women's issue or if she thinks men can get pregnant, and she won't know how to answer it.


Harris might get a temporary convention bump nationally of a point or 2, and I'm not even sure about that, and then her support will gradually decline the more people see of her, just like it did the last time she tried to run for president. If she's not winning these states now, I doubt she's going to. They don't really have much more they can throw at Trump that could damage him, and almost everything that could come out about Harris will damage her. I think if Trump were comfortably ahead right now, there would almost certainly be another security "whoopsie" before the election.

 

[jeremyemilio]

Somewhat but I'm not sure you're really going to see huge differences in political views based on sect or branch of Islam. You're more likely to see differences tied to income and immigration status/ethnicity, which heavily intersect. You also see lower levels of political involvement overall in Muslim Americans compared to the other religious lobbies for multiple reasons. Finally, if there were huge differences within Muslim American subpopulations, you'd see a far lower score from them dragging down the average (it's pretty unlikely that opinions about gay marriage are only on the extremes for the major Muslim American subgroups).

At any rate, I didn't compare Muslim Americans to Christians, I've been clear all along that I was comparing them to various Christian populations.

Yes. But that's where it falls apart. In comparing all Muslims to "various Christian populations." My three uncles Jim-bob, Billy-jo, and Pete might be considered a "christian population," but demonstrating that they are less tolerant than all Muslims on average doesn't really tell me anything useful.

At any rate, I suspect that if you split Muslims up by sect you'd find some sects that are less tolerant than evangelicals considering that evangelicals, according to the data provided, aren't all that much less tolerant than Muslims as a whole. But when I say "I suspect," I'm not saying that flippantly or facetiously. I say "I suspect" because given the data provided there is genuinely no way of knowing. Your guess is literally as good as mine and, frankly, neither guess is worth a hill of beans.

Which is why the data, as presented, just doesn't say much (aside from a pretty predictable statistical probability that if you splinter one demographic group into several smaller groups you are very likely to find a subgroup among those divisions that will perform better or worse on some given metric than some other demographic group taken as a whole).

 

[emefer]

We’re all cumming together in November? Fuck yeah I’m in.

 

[GoldenWolf87]

Why did the DNC allow this?

 

[idrankyourbeer]

We’re all cumming together in November? Fuck yeah I’m in.

 

[emefer]

Republicans just get Vance’s cum?
That’s some creepy weird shit bro. I’m out.

 

[koquerelle]

strong female presence. Unlike the sausage fest of the rnc

Speaking of sausage...