Elections DNC today in Chicago

[Jacket time]

 

[skysolo]

This is like a block from where FBG Duck was killed.

Bring out the mothers of the slain young men in Chicago if they care about this community.

 

[Deorum]

I love Austin but unfortunately I may need to give it up.

Why?

Move to Portland. I’ll get you a hook up on tattoos and hair dye. You can find yourself a nice vegan bike messenger who dances at night and settle in together with your small dogs you take hiking on the weekends

I'd like to visit Crater Lake one day.

The West should ban freedom of expression even when it doesn't hurt other people?

Why would they leave Iran if they were true "muslims", isn't Iran like a pretty hardcore Islamic Regime (post-revolution).

There are few ideas that could be more anti-American or opposed to its core principles than placing restrictions on religious liberty, much less banning a specific faith.

 

[GoldenWolf87]

And what does that have to do with Muslim Americans when we're discussing American politics. I hate to break it to you, but the billion plus Muslims in the world believe vastly different things and have vastly different opinion on hot button issues. It's useless to claim that all Muslims believe X or Y when it comes to most political issues.

Which Muslim Americans?
Be Specif.

You mean those on the left?

 

[Rob Battisti]

Why would I distinguish between identifying as a Muslim and practicing as a Muslim when I wouldn't do the same for any other religious group? You're just trying to find an way to manipulate the polling to favor your preconceived notions.

Muslim Americans poll ahead of white evangelicals, Hispanic protestants and Jehovah's Witness (aka "many Christian groups") for LGBT protections and they poll ahead of sevearl more Christian denominations when it comes to religious refusals of service (another hobby horse for the Christian right and Republican party).

When it comes to gay marriage, they support it more than Mormons, Hispanic protestants, evangelicals and Jehovah's Witnesses, and they're effectively tied with a lot of other smaller protestant denominations. All in all, there's next to no evidence that Muslim Americans by and large are particularly hostile to gay Americans and issues, and there's plenty of evidence that shows them being more supportive than many Christian groups.

More Acceptance but Growing Polarization on LGBTQ Rights: Findings From the 2022 American Values Atlas

www.prri.org

Spoiler

Because for both non practicing Christians and Muslims Christians are far more accepting

 

[idrankyourbeer]

looks pretty peaceful and patriotic to me. the fbi sent them there. those are actually just members of the proud boys and oath keepers anyways.

 

[avenue94]

What do all those countries have in common?

Again, I have no idea why the data point when discussing American politics is Muslims in other countries, as opposed to Muslim Americans. There's no denying that there are plenty of regressive opinions across the world, that's like saying the sky is blue. Obvious and plainly irrelevant to the current thread and topic at hand. ]

P.S. I'll also note that supporting people who don't like you (ie "gay progressives" and supporting a ceasefire in Gaza" is not uncommon in politics. Some might say it's even the Christian thing to do, love thy neighbor, even if they don't feel the same. Your stance is fine, but most of the other poeple I've replied to are just interested in partisan hackery and finding data points they can twist to support their narrative, not deriving a narrative from data points.

Which Muslim Americans?
Be Specif.

You mean those on the left?

The entire Muslim American population, which has been polled quite regularly on the matter. With the normal skewing toward support from younger and more educated or affluent Muslim Americans, just like most other demographics.

Because for both non practicing Christians and Muslims Christians are far more accepting

OK....so like I said originally. Muslim Americans as a whole as supportive of gay rights, even more so than many Christian demographics. I'm glad we've gone in a circle that returned to you reiterating my original point.

 

[DoctorTaco]

My god you couldn’t pay me to live there!

Honestly- if you like nature even a little then you should come check it out. Dont let the media trick you- it’s beautiful here, it’s not bombed out or on fire. I can drive 2 hours from my house and be at the beach, on top of a mountain to snowboard, or out to the high desert to go deer hunting. Tons of trees, parks, hikes, fishing, along with some of the best food and craft beer you’ve ever had.

 

[GoldenWolf87]

Again, I have no idea why the data point when discussing American politics is Muslims in other countries, as opposed to Muslim Americans. There's no denying that there are plenty of regressive opinions across the world, that's like saying the sky is blue. Obvious and plainly irrelevant to the current thread and topic at hand. ]

P.S. I'll also note that supporting people who don't like you (ie "gay progressives" and supporting a ceasefire in Gaza" is not uncommon in politics. Some might say it's even the Christian thing to do, love thy neighbor, even if they don't feel the same. Your stance is fine, but most of the other poeple I've replied to are just interested in partisan hackery and finding data points they can twist to support their narrative, not deriving a narrative from data points.

The entire Muslim American population, which has been polled quite regularly on the matter. With the normal skewing toward support from younger and more educated or affluent Muslim Americans, just like most other demographics.

OK....so like I said originally. Muslim Americans as a whole as supportive of gay rights, even more so than many Christian demographics. I'm glad we've gone in a circle that returned to you reiterating my original point.

Now i am going to be doubting you very much.

The entire Muslim American population, which has been polled quite regularly on the matter.

Ah yes going back to the polls/surveys right?

 

[koquerelle]

They are not strategic thinkers.

It's a nice way to say they're morons.

 

[PEB]

Donald Trump is a disgusting piece of crap.
Trump: Kamala was on her knees the whole time that Obama was president. Go ahead MAGA point out a time when Obama, Biden or Harris put sh%t like this up. This is why FOX is giving up and turning their attention on the congressional races. They are in the middle of another 3/4 of a billion dollar lawsuit thanks to him.

Trump Accuses Kamala Harris Of Using Sexual Favors To Earn Nomination

Donald Trump dubbed Vice President Kamala Harris a 'moron' with a parody version of Alanis Morissette's hit song 'Ironic.'

okmagazine.com

 

[idrankyourbeer]

the king of fake news pizzagate guy came to put on a show and have his little cry-cry screechy screechy about the free vasectomy and abortions for his fanbois on twitter, which has nothing at all to do with todays protest.

republicans simply can not live without anger and outrage.

 

[spamking]

 

[avenue94]

Ah yes going back to the polls/surveys right?

They're a heck of a lot better than random twitter posts and anecdotes. Perhaps a basic intro to stats class at your local community college would help you better understand why polling is more useful than twitter when understanding the opinions of large populations.

 

[Spounman]

Don't worry, sleepy Joe will make it all ok

I saw steve kerr is going to speak there tonight. What an ass clown

 

[nostradumbass]

Lol, 3 miles away from the convention center, meanwhile Trump had a 20 year old who trained at the DHS shooting facility running sprints on a rooftop like 100 yards away with a range finder and a rifle on like 10 different videos, and a month after getting shot, had another female SS agent abandon her post without telling anybody to go breastfeed a baby in the holding room and let several unauthorized people in the restricted area.

 

[idrankyourbeer]

Donald Trump is a disgusting piece of crap.
Trump: Kamala was on her knees the whole time that Obama was president. Go ahead MAGA point out a time when Obama, Biden or Harris put sh%t like this up. This is why FOX is giving up and turning their attention on the congressional races. They are in the middle of another 3/4 of a billion dollar lawsuit thanks to him.

he is so finished.

 

[koquerelle]

The Chicago police doesn't have tear gas?

 

[Jacket time]

looks pretty peaceful and patriotic to me. the fbi sent them there. those are actually just members of the proud boys and oath keepers anyways.

give a couple hrs

The Chicago police doesn't have tear gas?

these are bussed in agitators

 

[idrankyourbeer]