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Elections DNC today in Chicago

Clinton did not balance the budget, nor is that always the right move (though it was at the time). But more than that: What did Jeffrey Jones do?
Jeffrey Jones was caught with a bunch of child porn, and actively tried to get a 14 year old boy (undercover agent) to sleep with him.

Ruined all of my favorite 80s/early 90s movies like Ferris Beuler, Beetlejuice, Mom and Dad Save the World, Stay Tuned, etc

Plus Deadwood. They hired him knowing he was a predator, and put him in scenes with children.
 
I wasn't ever much of a fan of Oprah but she knows how to command an audience.
 
Bernie gave a great interview about this on Theo Von's podcast



My only issue with his health care for all argument is that he continously compares the US to Canada, Sweden, Denmark, etc. And the single biggest difference is population. A nation of 30 million with the right system may be able to do it, but 300+ million adds a ton of nuance and variables. It's not comparable.

We can do it, but it won't be like Sweden.

I meant to watch that when it was posted earlier so thanks for the repost.
I have heard that argument but Vermont tried to do it and their problem was that there wasn’t enough people to support it

I don’t believe that the richest nation in the world, where health insurance companies are making close to a billion dollars in profit a week, can’t do it because of the population.
 
Shots Fired, @BFoe.
He was president during an incredibly easy time to be president. He did OK, but I think it's ludicrous to compare him to Obama or Biden (just limiting it to recent Democratic presidents). I think a lot of people really don't understand deficits, and that's part of the reason for him being so overrated. Plus, when people are off the stage, they don't get much hate from the other side, which allows their rep to rise.
 
You’re not going to let him say that, are you?!

Aye he's your boy, and I'm in no position to argue with Jack over Clinton, lol. I was a carefree little boy in the '90s, you were already coming of age during his first term.
 
She's had training lol
She also looks flippin gorgeous. But she's hitting the racism card home brilliantly.
Edit: me using the word "card" wasn't the intention. She's speaking complete truth and this is what we need for independents and undecideds to wake up.
 
I meant to watch that when it was posted earlier so thanks for the repost.
I have heard that argument but Vermont tried to do it and their problem was that there wasn’t enough people to support it

I don’t believe that the richest nation in the world, where health insurance companies are making close to a billion dollars in profit a week, can’t do it because of the population.
We can, but it'll take an entire revamping of the system. We'd have to gut insurance and pharmaceutical industries. It'd be a chaotic bloodbath until we get it right.
 
He was president during an incredibly easy time to be president. He did OK, but I think it's ludicrous to compare him to Obama or Biden (just limiting it to recent Democratic presidents). I think a lot of people really don't understand deficits, and that's part of the reason for him being so overrated. Plus, when people are off the stage, they don't get much hate from the other side, which allows their rep to rise.
Post Soviet Union with Internet bubble
 
He was president during an incredibly easy time to be president. He did OK, but I think it's ludicrous to compare him to Obama or Biden (just limiting it to recent Democratic presidents). I think a lot of people really don't understand deficits, and that's part of the reason for him being so overrated. Plus, when people are off the stage, they don't get much hate from the other side, which allows their rep to rise.
We had some hate for Bill earlier. You were the Beetlejuice I was talking about, because you don't think he's a sex fiend.

My nuance is knowing him and the RNC balanced the budget (you say he didn't, yet we had a surplus in budget for the only time in 2000) while knowing he was a creep.

Still, one of the greatest orators of all time. That's why I love Obama so much. Family guy, never cheated, and still speaks better than Clinton in his best days.
 
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