Elections DNC today in Chicago

The Diplomat said:
True. But it also seems like we had more money to spend in space exploration for the sake of beating the commies. By 73, nobody cared that we went to the moon multiple times, so now us never going there is considered probable by a good chunk of the populace.

My point being, we may be doing better, but we may also be dumber in practice.
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We already own the skies and space, by a lot. We still spend quite a lot on it anyway compared to anyone else competing in the space exploration field.

I think they're plenty of other "smart" fields we're progressing in and spending way more money on than we ever spent on space exploration, like energy generation and conservation and other more practical earthly technologies like computing, processing, data storage and now AI. Aeronautics is still not even close and next gen aircraft which already exist haven't even been publicly exposed.
 
Rob Battisti said:
And the other indicators I’ve seen are house size.

Give me your top 3 economic indicators?
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lmao, even this is dishonest.

The point about house size was that home ownership then and today mean two different things, not that house size is an economic indicator.
 
Rational Poster said:
We already own the skies and space, by a lot. We still spend quite a lot on it anyway compared to anyone else competing in the space exploration field.

I think they're plenty of other "smart" fields we're progressing in and spending way more money on than we ever spent on space exploration, like energy generation and conservation and other more practical earthly technologies like computing, processing, data storage and now AI. Aeronautics is still not even close and next gen aircraft which already exist haven't even been publicly exposed.
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It was a general joke towards the conspiracy theorists. But I appreciate the post, and agree.
 
terrapin said:
Obama was naive and could have fought for and won some great policies but naively believed the repubs would cooperate with him.


I believe he was/is a good guy though. I think Obama is when the rep party blew a fuse though.... sleeveless dresses and tans suits on black presidents and first ladies did not go over too well.
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They are still salty about it calling Michelle a tranny FFS
 
As I’ve said:

GDP growth
Real Wage Growth(wage - inflation)
Unemployment

Things like individual debt to wage is another indicator and home affordability.

This is not the greatest economy of all time.

How’s that yield curve going?

Hopefully shit doesn’t get too real very soon.
 
Rob Battisti said:
As I’ve said:

GDP growth
Real Wage Growth(wage - inflation)
Unemployment

Things like individual debt to wage is another indicator and home affordability.

This is not the greatest economy of all time.

How’s that yield curve going?

Hopefully shit doesn’t get too real very soon.
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Real wages
Unemployment (measured by prime-age employment to population ratio)
Real GDP

Levels matter more than rates of change. @Islam Imamate illustrated that point, and you ducked it.
 
Asset values also matter a lot. Industrial production is another. Lots of smaller things you can add. You ideally want to look at everything, but the three things I listed would be the big ones.
 
Andy Capp said:
Half my family is bad for that lol
I fuckin' hate it.
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My wife does the same thing. And I’m an impatient asshole so I spend the whole time saying “alright well..” only for the next topic to be brought up.
 
avenue94 said:
It's extremely common for teachers to provide advice and guidance to kids. It's part and parcel with the job.

What exactly is your good faith, non hack concern here?
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Where the shit did you go to school where it was "extremely common" for middle aged men to provide "advice and guidance" to teenagers about their sex lives?

High Test With da Best said:
I'm not caught up ITT but do you or anyone else know if he had any training in that type of field? Did he have special qualifications to advise them in a therapist type role?
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Nope, but he's fabricated his entire bio anyway, so he might as well add that to the list.

If you had a 15 year old daughter who told you one of her 35 year old male teachers wanted to take her to a concert, would anybody anywhere say "it's extremely common for middle aged men to provide advice and guidance to teenage girls about their sex lives and take them to concerts"? This wouldn't even be a discussion if it was anybody other someone these clowns are told to support.

This weirdo's new line is that it's unrelatable that JD Vance got into a good law school because "nobody in my family or anyone in my class ever got into a good school". Yeah, I guess it's not as relatable as all those midwestern dads taking 30 trips to China.
 
nostradumbass said:
Where the shit did you go to school where it was "extremely common" for middle aged men to provide "advice and guidance" to teenagers about their sex lives?
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Public school in a conservative stronghold in California. Who do you think chaperones kids during sixth grade camp or whatever, or teaches sex ed?
 
nostradumbass said:
Where the shit did you go to school where it was "extremely common" for middle aged men to provide "advice and guidance" to teenagers about their sex lives?


Nope, but he's fabricated his entire bio anyway, so he might as well add that to the list.

If you had a 15 year old daughter who told you one of her 35 year old male teachers wanted to take her to a concert, would anybody anywhere say "it's extremely common for middle aged men to provide advice and guidance to teenage girls about their sex lives and take them to concerts"? This wouldn't even be a discussion if it was anybody other someone these clowns are told to support.

This weirdo's new line is that it's unrelatable that JD Vance got into a good law school because "nobody in my family or anyone in my class ever got into a good school". Yeah, I guess it's not as relatable as all those midwestern dads taking 30 trips to China.
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What do you think schools guidance counselors, student teachers and Chaplains do?


Senior teachers are often sounding board for kids.
 

Trump tries to tie rival Harris to chaotic Afghanistan exit​


WASHINGTON — Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump used the third anniversary on Monday of the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan to try to pin the chaotic pullout on his Democratic rival for the White House, Kamala Harris.

Trump participated in a wreath-laying ceremony at Arlington National Cemetery honoring the 13 servicemembers killed during the U.S. exit, then later in Detroit blamed Harris, the vice president, and President Joe Biden for what he termed a "catastrophic" withdrawal.

"Caused by Kamala Harris, Joe Biden, the humiliation in Afghanistan set off the collapse of American credibility and respect all over the world," Trump said in an address to the National Guard Association of the United States.

It was the latest attempt by Trump and his campaign to raise doubts about Harris' fitness to serve as commander-in-chief as the Nov. 5 election draws near and comes after Harris last week proclaimed herself ready to lead the nation's armed forces.

The U.S. troop pullout and evacuation of U.S. and allied officials, citizens and Afghans at risk of Taliban retribution saw crowds of desperate Afghans trying to enter Kabul airport and men clinging to aircraft as they taxied down runways in August 2021.

An Islamic State suicide bomber killed 13 U.S. servicemembers and more than 150 Afghans outside an airport gate.

Harris' campaign said the fault lay with Trump's tenure as president.

"The Biden-Harris administration inherited a mess from Donald Trump," said Ammar Moussa, a Harris spokesperson. "Trump wants America to forget that he had four years to get out of Afghanistan but failed to do it."

The Biden administration was following a withdrawal commitment and timeline that the Trump administration had negotiated with the Taliban in 2020.

A review released by the U.S. State Department in 2023 found fault with both the Trump and Biden administrations in the run-up to the withdrawal.

In recent weeks, Trump and his running mate, Senator JD Vance, also have sought to turn Democratic vice presidential candidate Tim Walz's decades of service into a political vulnerability. Former military service is often a key selling point for candidates in U.S. political campaigns.

The Republicans have accused Walz of exaggerating his rank in the Army National Guard, where he served for 24 years. Walz has described himself as a retired command sergeant major, one of the highest noncommissioned officer positions in the Army. While he achieved that rank, he did not meet the requirements to retire with that title.

The Harris campaign deleted a reference this month to Walz's rank as a "command sergeant major" on its website. The campaign also now says Walz "misspoke" in 2018 during his gubernatorial campaign in Minnesota when he referred to "weapons of war, that I carried in war." Walz was never deployed to a war zone.

Trump, 78, never served in the military. Though he was of draft age during the Vietnam War, he received four student deferments and a health-related one after he received a diagnosis for bone spurs in his feet.

Vance served in the Marine Corps for four years as a combat correspondent and was deployed to Iraq for roughly seven months. His position mainly involved writing reports of military activity for public dissemination and at times interacting with the media.

Harris has not served in the military.

Harris told CNN in 2021 that she was the last person in the room with Biden when he decided to pull U.S. forces from Afghanistan and end America's longest war. She also said that she was comfortable with Biden's decision, but it remains unclear what role she played in the discussion.

Both Biden and Harris released statements marking the anniversary on Monday.

"These 13 devoted patriots represent the best of America, putting our beloved nation and their fellow Americans above themselves and deploying into danger to keep their fellow citizens safe," Harris said.

Asked Monday why Biden and Harris weren’t marking the anniversary of the Abbey Gate attack as Trump did at Arlington National Cemetery, White House national security spokesman John Kirby told reporters that Trump had been personally invited by the family members and he called it one way to honor the fallen.

“Another way is to continue to work,” Kirby said. “Maybe not with a lot of fanfare, maybe not with a lot of public attention, maybe not with TV cameras, but to work with might and main every single day to make sure that the families of the fallen and of those who were injured and wounded, not just at Abbey Gate, but over the course of the 20-some odd years that we were in Afghanistan, have the support that they need.”

Also Monday, House Speaker Mike Johnson announced that Congress will posthumously honor the 13 service members by presenting their families with the Congressional Gold Medal next month. It's the highest civilian award that Congress can bestow.

https://www.voanews.com/a/trump-tries-to-tie-rival-harris-to-chaotic-afghanistan-exit/7758346.html
 
pinger said:
What do you think schools guidance counselors, student teachers and Chaplains do?


Senior teachers are often sounding board for kids.
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I'd be fascinated by the venn diagram of those who think public school teachers shouldn't offer guidance to students sometimes asnd those who think pastors should offer guidance to gay kids lol
 
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