Media Din Thomas with some rough words on Leon Edwards after UFC Fight Night 255 performance

[ThaiSexPills]

Or maybe his wrestling just isn't as good as his opponents. Its not that he is content to lose, its just the weakest part of his game. When someone gets knocked about by strikes no one says "Well he was just content to get knocked out" Makes zero sense.

He does need to improve his grappling, but to say a former UFC champ is content to lose is just delusional. Its literally a retarded statement.

It’s not about his wrestling, it’s about his lack of intensity in there. He’s very talented and with a proper gameplan, I think he could win again. Obviously his grappling can improve but the notion that he’s not talented enough to win a title or beat Sean Brady is retarded.

Din can only dream of what Leon has accomplished.

Comments from the peanut gallery from people who have no clue what they are talking about and parrot what others say because they are incapable of creating their own take.

Make sure to shit on Duane Ludwig for coaching champions and trying to tell them what to do too while you’re crapping on Din. How many world titles did Trevor Whitman win? What a dumb take.

I bet you’ve never competed in any sport at a high level and I can tell. Instead of being angry people disagree with you, accept it and move on. I think I know more than most about the situation and coaching personally from my time as an athlete.

 

[Doctor Grudge]

Leon doesn't "suck" for any reason, including beating Usman. But the follow up performances give a litte context too.

Khamzat followed up his lackluster win over Usman (where Khamzat dominated for 2 rounds then gassed) by crushing Whitaker's jaw. Leon followed up his wins over Usman by getting ragdolled by Belal then ragdolled and choked out by Brady. Seems pretty clear they're on different trajectories.

He actually followed it up by defending his title against Covington. I think you're being a little selective here.

 

[Jinx_AA]

Leon’s a disrespectful douche in every single leadup … so full of himself … I’ve never seen him show respect ever

The losses Looks good on him - he’s done … not caz he’s terrible … but because he’s boring and unlikeable and will never be in title talk again - he should hang em up rather then fight rising contenders - caz he can only fall further at this point

 

[Legendary]

It’s not about his wrestling, it’s about his lack of intensity in there. He’s very talented and with a proper gameplan, I think he could win again. Obviously his grappling can improve but the notion that he’s not talented enough to win a title or beat Sean Brady is retarded.

Make sure to shit on Duane Ludwig for coaching champions and trying to tell them what to do too while you’re crapping on Din. How many world titles did Trevor Whitman win? What a dumb take.

I bet you’ve never competed in any sport at a high level and I can tell. Instead of being angry people disagree with you, accept it and move on. I think I know more than most about the situation and coaching personally from my time as an athlete.

Typical sherdog. He loses 2 fights and now every armchair expert gets to shit on him. You weren't saying any of this when he was champion. Its called having a bad performance, it happens. You and and every other guy who didn't accomplish anything in the sport are just projecting that fact.

Duane's only champion is PED cheat Dillashaw, and he was a mediocre fighter himself, Din also was a mediocre fighter.
Guys like Leon don't have to punch down. Leon accomplished more in fighting than any of those guys combined and therefore when they try to say dumbass shit like that he isn't a real fighter, its just coming from a place of jealousy and old dudes trying to stay relevant.

Its like you bragging that you played high school football and therefore you know what it takes to be Superbowl champ. Delusional. I use to bench 405 back in high school bro.....

I STILL train and have for over a decade in some of the best gyms in the states. The fact you gotta make it personal goes to show your just a delusional asshole keyboard warrior and that your argument(not actually your own arguement) is weak.

Garbage take. Leon is a better fighter than Din ever was.

And its not even close. To anyone saying Usman's knees were shot, boohoo. He just had a competitive fight with Khamzat and his knees weren't an issue then. People just like to talk shit from a distance and make excuses. Plenty of fighters have injuries but don't cry to the media about it like Usman did.

Also doesn't help that Joe Rogan hyperbolizes everything with fighters and so many weak men have to parrot his statements because their father didn't give them enough attention growing up. Its sad to see grown men fall in line like they are teenage boys.

 

[CasualBot]

Din Thomas blocked me for critiqing his pre-fight "prayer circle" with Woodley...

We all saw how that turned out.

Din drapped in that hypocrite cloth.

 

[Brigfa2]

Leon accomplished 1000x what Din did in MMA, he is completely out of his league.

You can use this argument against everyone and it's fucking retarded. So Din can't talk about fighters but Average Joes like you can?

 

[ThaiSexPills]

Typical sherdog. He loses 2 fights and now every armchair expert gets to shit on him. You weren't saying any of this when he was champion. Its called having a bad performance, it happens. You and and every other guy who didn't accomplish anything in the sport are just projecting that fact.

Duane's only champion is PED cheat Dillashaw, and he was a mediocre fighter himself, Din also was a mediocre fighter.
Guys like Leon don't have to punch down. Leon accomplished more in fighting than any of those guys combined and therefore when they try to say dumbass shit like that he isn't a real fighter, its just coming from a place of jealousy and old dudes trying to stay relevant.

Its like you bragging that you played high school football and therefore you know what it takes to be Superbowl champ. Delusional. I use to bench 405 back in high school bro.....

I STILL train and have for over a decade in some of the best gyms in the states. The fact you gotta make it personal goes to show your just a delusional asshole keyboard warrior and that your argument(not actually your own arguement) is weak.


And its not even close. To anyone saying Usman's knees were shot, boohoo. He just had a competitive fight with Khamzat and his knees weren't an issue then. People just like to talk shit from a distance and make excuses. Plenty of fighters have injuries but don't cry to the media about it like Usman did.

Also doesn't help that Joe Rogan hyperbolizes everything with fighters and so many weak men have to parrot his statements because their father didn't give them enough attention growing up. It’s sad to see grown men fall in line like they are teenage boys.

You didn’t read my post if you’re arguing with me accusing me of saying Leon sucks. That’s not what he said at all. I said he was very talented. The point we’re all trying to make is he’s better than his past performances and that his issue seems to mental, not skills. I actually think he has the tools to be champ again but he hasn’t shown it at all and hasn’t ever dug deep when it got tough except for one lucky shot once.

You can’t grasp the concept about grit which is why I assumed you never played a sport at a high level before. It wasn’t a personal attack, it was an observation. Training at a gym isn’t the same.

You’re the one who made it personal by getting angry at me for stating my opinion and calling me a retard. I agree Din shouldn’t make public statements like that, yeah but it has to be said. Maybe you’re onto something but I wanted to point out that Din is saying what we’ve all been thinking for awhile now and maybe he shouldn’t say it in public but it needs to be said.

Ps I still get paid actual money to play hockey right now. I’d do it for free but I get paid. I’ve heard lots of stuff around a dressing room very similar to what Din has said. Played the best junior hockey in the world but wasn’t good enough to go pro so I’m posting here while I eat my egg McMuffins. It is what it is but I’ve certainly seen my share of coaching tactics and that’s pretty vanilla besides the public aspect. I still stand by my point that 99.9% of coaches are not usually better than their best player / athlete. Greg Jackson certainly never held a candle to any of his gym but he still gets them there.

 

[pamirec]

Does Ricardo Mayorga need to come back and slap Din again?

Din got freaking wobbled from that slap.

 

[Nimrod]

He's 100% right. There are MMA fighters that became good because of their athletic ability. Leon is one of those but he doesn't have a fighters instinct, temperament.

People will say he has tremendous poise, he's calm or it's just his personality but it's not that. It's about that willingness to get into brawl when it's the only option you have in winning.

My god..

This take is so.bad.

Leon is an athlete AND a fighter

Unfortunately for you, you will never understand probably because you've never even been in a fight.

 

[HHJ]

It's not that he hasn't got the grit.

It's not likes hes been goin out there finishing ppl in 2 seconds and going down as soon shit gets hard.

It's not as simple as that. To say he isn't a fighter is crazy. He done way more than Din ever did.

Leon's career had been disappointing and frustrating as of late but some people struggling to define the reasons why.

 

[JustforBROCK]

100% True

Din, Serra, DC, Bisping, ALL SHIELDS

No, just din because he was a sub par fighter who never won a really meaningful fight, and people rightfully can't stand insufferable people like that. Big reason why people aren't being on Anthony Smith now.

 

[mkess101]

He actually followed it up by defending his title against Covington. I think you're being a little selective here.

True. I'd forgotten about that boring tragedy of a fight.

 

[moosaev]

He actually followed it up by defending his title against Covington. I think you're being a little selective here.

That was a freebie title defense because they didn’t want to give Belal the shot. That version of Colby had no business fighting for a title and I give Leon no credit for that win.

 

[moosaev]

No, just din because he was a sub par fighter who never won a really meaningful fight, and people rightfully can't stand insufferable people like that. Big reason why people aren't being on Anthony Smith now.

The fact that Din was sub par doesn’t negate his point about Leon. Was he as good as Leon? No. Is he correct in his assessment of Leon? Absolutely.

 

[BlackBradPaisley]

Leon’s always been a “tactical[see:visual vicodin]” fighter but do people really think Sean Brady wouldnt have done what he did to Leon to most people in the division?

It was a nightmare matchup for Leon and Sean Brady capitalized.

I don’t think Leon gave up; he just got bested.

Brady made it a grueling slog for Leon and Leon just couldn’t adapt.

Shit happens. And I don’t even like Leon.

 

[Kwic]

I'm surprised no one has used to hammer and nail analogy. Leon is great at being the hammer, but can not handle being a nail. Meaning Leon has a ton of talent as a fighter and is great when things are going his way, but he folds when facing adversity in a fight. I think that's what people mean when they are saying a person is a great athlete, great at fighting, but not a fighter.

What separates just fighters from just great athletes that fight is their handling of adversity during the fight. An athlete will look spectacular while winning but will mentally fold if put in danger during a fight. A fighter, though not as talented as an athlete, will stand up to the adversity. Athletes are great at dishing it, but they can not take it.

The best example I have of this is Frank Mir. He had all the talent in the world. When he won, he looked like he could beat anyone in the world. When he lost, he got wrecked and look like a scrub.

Conor is another example.
It's called lacking heart.
Although he did deal with adversity in the Diaz fight which he barely won while mounted at the end being exhausted and in the post interview he said he rehearsed the king is back, lol.

 

[jsbx45]

Din Thomas after UFC Fight Night 255: 'I don't think Leon Edwards in his heart is a true fighter'

Din Thomas questions Leon Edwards' grit after UFC Fight Night 255. Former welterweight champion Edwards (22-5 MMA, 14-4 UFC) was stopped for the first time in his career when he was dominated and submitted by Sean Brady in Saturday's main event\u00a0at The O2 in London

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Ouch.

Din low key emasculating Leon, saying he's not a true fighter at heart, but just a good athlete.

Thoughts?

I dunno. He beat a top 5 (all time) WW in Usman. He's pretty good. Had a bad night against Brady though. He had a pretty decent showing against Belal who finished Brady. He ain't no can.

 

[JustforBROCK]

The fact that Din was sub par doesn’t negate his point about Leon. Was he as good as Leon? No. Is he correct in his assessment of Leon? Absolutely.

There no question that Leon is missing something, but people who don't have heart and aren't real fighters dont win titles and don't have long careers. Whatever point Din was trying to make sounds fucking retarded coming from someone who thinks himself s real fighters and isn't as good as the person he's shitting on. Then often makes ridiculous comments during fights when they cut to him. This isn't the first time he's said something stupid.

 

[DiazSlap]

I think the old argument of

“You are not really a fighter. You are just an athlete”

When you’ve gotten into the cage, won a world title, had tremendous success is very lame. It was always lame.

Exactly…Din was a career journeyman so he meds to just STFU on Leon.

 

[315MMAFighter]