Did Ngannou really think there was a market for him outside the UFC?

Francis might not multiply his pay elsewhere but he could still do well with chance to do more. As noted he could do worse as well. Depends how he performs. Puts UFC pay into perspective, it is competitive with an uncertain market. Fury duped him.
 
The Bloody Nine said:
There is no Wilder fight. And even if there were, Wilder is not some huge draw. He's spent most of his career in 4000 seaters in Alabama.
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Huh are we seriously pretending Wilder Frank wouldn’t sell and plus give him a bigger payday than the UFC would? What are we doing here?
 
Every day Ngannou doesn’t have anything lined up his stock drops. Big Frank is letting his competitive prime slip away from him, he’s not getting any younger, meanwhile the public and fight game moves on without him.
The UFC has Jones now to promote as “the baddest man alive” and everything he continues to accomplish will devalue Francis as well. Hell Jones already has a fight lined up.
 
Frank Ng knew he had a good chance of losing his next UFC fight so played the role of crusader so he didn't look scared.

He'll be back in the UFC before the end of 2024.
 
Robbie b said:
He will probably make his whole ufc contract fighting Wilder in what should be a wildly entertaining fight. So yeah, I think he’s going to do just fine.
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Yup, seems like people here really don't understand the landscape of anything away from UFC. The highest paid combat sports fighters are not in the UFC. So that means there is a whole other market out there that pays better than UFC and a whole other market that aren't UFC/mma fans. Ngannou will do just fine and make more money. Don't understand why people have such a hard time understanding this. Ngannou has leverage as the lineal UFC HW champion. Win or lose he's going to leverage that into a big pay day.
 
The Bloody Nine said:
Floyd's retired. Fury is the WBC champ and has obligations. You think a total novice who is pushing 40 can just jump the queue?
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Yes. Money talks. It's called step aside money for the mandatories. They do it all the time to make the big fights.
 
FIghtxIQ said:
Yup, seems like people here really don't understand the landscape of anything away from UFC. The highest paid combat sports fighters are not in the UFC. So that means there is a whole other market out there that pays better than UFC and a whole other market that aren't UFC/mma fans. Ngannou will do just fine and make more money. Don't understand why people have such a hard time understanding this. Ngannou has leverage as the lineal UFC HW champion. Win or lose he's going to leverage that into a big pay day.
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Of course, but there's the rub - as you just said, they are not UFC/MMA fans. So why would they be clamouring to see Ngannou fight?
 
Rwina said:
He always had the dream of becoming a boxer. So he wants to chase that dream.

When he left cameroon to walk to paris, I am sure lot of people would have said he was crazy aswell.

I think he probably would have made more money in the ufc. But i think his odds are not that bad. Compared to risks he took leaving him. so why not try it
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Yup people forget he originally wanted to be a boxer. Just happened to walk into an mma gym at the start of his training/career.
 
I think he made a MASSIVE mistake. He’s $15M in the hole right now. If he fights whomever in Boxing. Fury’s last 2 opponents made $7.4M, and $4.5M.

I honestly don’t think he’s getting most or all of it back.

Let’s say he gets $7M from boxing, and gets ktfo.

What’s next? No boxing matches most probably. Then ending up in Bellaror, PFL, or some shit.

He is never going to make as much money in the minors as he would have in the UFC.
 
There is a market for him in boxing for atleast one or two fights. after that my guess is he'll come down on his asking price for Bellator or PFL and he'll sign with them.
 
P4p Islam said:
Only on sherdog does the ufc hw champ have no leverage
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Oh yes Francis out there right now with big contracts waiting for
FIghtxIQ said:
Yup, seems like people here really don't understand the landscape of anything away from UFC. The highest paid combat sports fighters are not in the UFC. So that means there is a whole other market out there that pays better than UFC and a whole other market that aren't UFC/mma fans. Ngannou will do just fine and make more money. Don't understand why people have such a hard time understanding this. Ngannou has leverage as the lineal UFC HW champion. Win or lose he's going to leverage that into a big pay day.
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Very few are making the big money in boxing. If it was there McGregor wouldn't be in the UFC. McGregor was only able to get 1 big one. Francis' value is much less.
 
Trax said:
He is not Mayweather marketable but he can certainly double or triple all his career earnings so far. But you can trust me on this one, no one refuses a contract for 7,8 million $ if he has not smelled a better or similar offer..
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I won't trust u on it bc it doesn't make sense at all. Tyson fury highest paid opponent was Derek Chisora who got paid 7m after years if being and established well known ranked HW boxer. And boxing is where the paydays supposedly are. So if someone with the resume of Chisora got less than what the ufc offered Ngannou, then why would boxing promotions break the bank for Nganouu for barely had a following inside his own sport.
 
Honestly I think Jones coming back and the way in which he did hurt Francis Stock immense.
I think If Jones doesn't come back and/or struggles with Gane we would still be talking about Francis and he would still have a bigger profile.
 
FIghtxIQ said:
Yes. Money talks. It's called step aside money for the mandatories. They do it all the time to make the big fights.
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Please list the names of non boxers who have debuted fighting a world title holder. I'll wait. Shouldn't be difficult since "it happens all the time".
 
FIghtxIQ said:
Yup, seems like people here really don't understand the landscape of anything away from UFC. The highest paid combat sports fighters are not in the UFC. So that means there is a whole other market out there that pays better than UFC and a whole other market that aren't UFC/mma fans. Ngannou will do just fine and make more money. Don't understand why people have such a hard time understanding this. Ngannou has leverage as the lineal UFC HW champion. Win or lose he's going to leverage that into a big pay day.
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He has zero leverage. He's not the UFC champion and he can't use the UFC name.
 
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