Did MVP do better than I thought against Garry?

[don't ask]

TLDR: MVP was beating Garry on the feel and lost a decision on the ground, but maybe Garry is a hell of a lot better on the ground than I thought, which means MVP might be a hell of a lot better on the ground than I thought.

Extremely long version: I thought Shavkat was going to run through Garry, which might mean I underrated Garry badly. Which also makes me think my disappointment with MVP might be unwarranted (I was hyped to see him in the UFC, but cooled off watching the Garry fight as it looked to me like he'd seriously regressed in his grappling abilities and wasn't training all that seriously for his UFC run). OTOH, MVP recently competed in a grappling competition, which makes me wonder if the Garry loss opened his eyes regarding his skill regression and has been focusing on his grappling.

Do I owe MVP some flowers or something?

 

[Arm Barbarian]

Gary is difficult to fight, particularly because of his defense and foot work.

He also went D1 on Page, which was very smart on his part.

Not a fan of his whatsoever, but he likely won't be an easy win for anyone at WW due to his length and movement.

 

[ryun253]

mf'er is 6'3 in the WW division, who the fck can be 6'3 and weigh in at 170

 

[don't ask]

mf'er is 6'3 in the WW division, who the fck can be 6'3 and weigh in at 170

Isn't there a lightweight who's almost as tall? People got helium balloons in their asses when they weigh in.

 

[don't ask]

Gary is difficult to fight, particularly because of his defense and foot work.

He also went D1 on Page, which was very smart on his part.

Not a fan of his whatsoever, but he likely won't be an easy win for anyone at WW due to his length and movement.

Page was working him over on the feet, so I don't think that applies to this particular Garry conundrum.

Garry is turning into a mysterious fighter to assess.

 

[swizztony]

MVP was so close to winning that fight too

 

[Kowboy On Sherdog]

MVP did ok vs Ian Machado Garry

 

[OldBoy91]

Everybody at WW should wrestle against MVP. Most everybody is better than he is on the ground, and sorely outmatched on the feet.

Do people think Shavkat wouldn't wall and stall like he did against Wonderboy as he struggles to take him down?

 

[don't ask]

MVP was so close to winning that fight too

Yeah, that's exactly I was so frustrated. I was like, "MFer, if you didn't forget what groundfighting was you would have won that!"

but now I'm not sure.

 

[Tweak896]

Honestly MVP did better than shavkat against Garry. He had better moments

 

[Fahcough]

Isn't there a lightweight who's almost as tall? People got helium balloons in their asses when they weigh in.

Jalin and Joel Alvarez. 6'3 range LW

 

[NoSmilez]

MVP did but Shavkat and Garry trained together before. They somewhat knew each other's game. It is hard to train for MVP. Nobody moves like him in MMA outside of WB and Raymond Daniels.

 

[pick999]

Ian hugged mvp

 

[HatKick]

Sure, Gary is a good grappler. He easily controlled Geoff Neal in the clinch too. He could probably win a boring wall n stall fight over Luque and prime Masvidal if he wanted to. He's not a wizard and neither is Shavkat but they're both very good and very strong for WW.

How good is MVP's striking though? He made Ian look levels below him. Made him look slow too. He's definitely a candidate for pfp#1 striker imo.

 

[Thepaintbucket]

Maybe Ian got better IDK. MVP didn't really put up much of a fight on the ground. Perhaps Garry invested too much energy trying to submit him

 

[Doctor Grudge]

Gary does have good wrestling. I thought even against MVP it was apparent.

 

[Vampire life]

mf'er is 6'3 in the WW division, who the fck can be 6'3 and weigh in at 170

Ben “killa bee”’Saunders

 

[John12]

MVP got robbed, he is also 37 and past his prime...

 

[WoozyFailGuy]

mf'er is 6'3 in the WW division, who the fck can be 6'3 and weigh in at 170

I'm his height, maybe a bit taller and that would be a 45lb weight cut for me, don't know how he does it. Has a flat frame which helps immensely.

 

[RedMountain]

MVP won that fight.