International Deposing Maduro was a Massive Win

Surely sets a great precedent.

No need for laws if you want it bad enough.

The special military action was very well executed, unlike Russias, but both were equally legal.

Americans may feel their supreme lrader can make things legal by divine right, but it's hard to define exactly who else can make a might equals right argument.
 
Surely sets a great precedent.

No need for laws if you want it bad enough.

The special military action was very well executed, unlike Russias, but both were equally legal.

Americans may feel their supreme lrader can make things legal by divine right, but it's hard to define exactly who else can make a might equals right argument.
Taking over Crimea is probably more impressive because of al the moving parts involved.
 
Taking over Crimea is probably more impressive because of al the moving parts involved.

Has Russia really taken it over? Ukraine just has to make it most costly than it is worth to keep it? Russia's economy is collapsing and it is having to beg China and China to provide artillary shells and drones and buy its oil. This was supposed to just be a few week opportatiion to take Kiev. Instead, they are stuck a battle with no fruit or end.
 
Which law? you already said no country has the moral authority to dictate law.


Sure, its the US that undermines the entire system, not the actors that completely disregard them in the first place.

Maduro was illegitimate and commited crimes against humanity so under MUH INTERNATIONAL LAW he was to be removed except nobody has authority over him.



Sure man, international law only applies to the West.
International law is followed by the good guys.

Vigilante justice is rarely a good thing.
 
Has Russia really taken it over? Ukraine just has to make it most costly than it is worth to keep it? Russia's economy is collapsing and it is having to beg China and China to provide artillary shells and drones and buy its oil. This was supposed to just be a few week opportatiion to take Kiev. Instead, they are stuck a battle with no fruit or end.
Russia has controlled Crimea since 2014, there isn’t really fighting going on there.
 
Taking over Crimea is probably more impressive because of al the moving parts involved.

The Venezuelan parliament is largely intact and largely populated by Maduros friends and family. The next step is going to be interesting.

You've always got to wonder about the plans and what success looks like to them.

I don't believe the USA considered him such a bad guy this needed to be done, nor that he was flooding the US with fentanyl so I just don't see the win.
 
The Venezuelan parliament is largely intact and largely populated by Maduros friends and family. The next step is going to be interesting.

You've always got to wonder about the plans and what success looks like to them.

I don't believe the USA considered him such a bad guy this needed to be done, nor that he was flooding the US with fentanyl so I just don't see the win.

I read that one of the thing he is getting charge with is having a "machine gun"....

Was a wtf to me.

EDIT via BBC:
"Nicolás Maduro has been charged with "Narco-Terrorism Conspiracy, Cocaine Importation Conspiracy, Possession of Machineguns and Destructive Devices, and Conspiracy to Possess Machineguns and Destructive Devices against the United States"."
 
I was initially shocked that the US actually deposed Maduro by force. And did so easily in a 2 hour operation. I was picturing some years long guerilla war and pressuring the people under him to assassinate him.

Instead they did a perfectly executed surgical extraction with zero American soldiers killed or any aircraft downed. As a military operation, it was literally perfect and something Russia could only dream of achieving. Russia was trying to pull this off at the beginning of the Ukraine War, but failed miserably.

I did have mixed feelings about militarily interfering with a sovereign country, but I'm coming around to the fact that this will be a massive win for the United States.

It accomplishes several huge objectives.

Reinforces the Monroe Doctrine

1. For those that don't know what the Monroe Doctrine is - it is a US foreign policy position that opposes colonialism or any influence in the Western Hemisphere by other countries from Europe or elsewhere. It was originally against European colonialism - "GTFO out of here and we won't fuck with your Euro colonies."

2. Russia and Venezuela signed a Strategic Partnership and Cooperation Treaty in May 2025, formalizing deeper ties in energy, mining, transport, defense, and counterterrorism, driven by shared opposition to the U.S. China has invested over 100 billion into Venezuela since 2007 and also has treaties with Venezuela.

3. Both China and Russia has sold a significant amount of weapons to Venezuela over the last two decades.

Say bye bye to all of that. All their influence in Latin America just went down SUBSTANTIALLY.

4. The US just proved they're not playing around in protecting the Western Hemisphere.

Did Irreparable Harm to Chinese Influence

1. A Chinese delegation was literally meeting Maduro just hours before. Well what are they going to do about this? Absolutely jack shit - except publicly denounce it.

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2. China has been allying with dictators and leaders all over South America to get influence. Including building in Panama and buying ports there so they can have influence over the Panama Canal.

3. Well we just showed being China's partner doesn't mean protection. Instead it means EXPOSURE and a spotlight on you as an enemy of the #1 superpower.

Yea China might smile to you in front of cameras and promise you the world and give you money, but when you need it the most, they don't shield or protect you. They don't help militarily at all. They'll just step aside and ditch you when pressure escalates and issue a statement of strong protest the next day.


It just scared the shit out of any dictators or leaders that's thinking about allying with America's enemies

1. Maduro literally thought he could invite the US's number one adversary into their backyard and they would just allow him to erode their national security. He figured China would protect him when they inevitably retaliate. Well we're already seeing China and Russia will do jack shit to protect their "allies" in Latin America.

2. In one night, every single Latin American leader just realized it is time to decouple with China and align with the superpower in their hemisphere.

3. No dictator is actually concerned with the United States massive military because they know they realistically won't level their entire country and kill thousands to millions of people.

But they now know the US can (and will) surgically go into their country, kidnap the dictator (AND wife) in 2 hours and they have zero chance to even try to stop it - that is a much more scarier and realistic threat to any nation's leader than an unlikely dragged out war.

4. There is zero chance in hell China or Russia would have been able to pull something like this off. Maduro never sleeps in the same place every single night and he was housed in a heavily protected installation carved into the mountains when he was taken.

Yet the US took him and wife with ZERO casualties or aircrafts downed in 2 hours - air superiority, jamming and destroying all their radars, stealth, cyberwarfare, etc.

Literally no other country on Earth could have pulled this off other than the US.

It secures the largest oil reserves in the entire world and US national security for decades.

1. Quick history lesson - in the 90's, Venezuela opened up their oil industry to foreign investment because their companies did not have the technical expertise or funds to fully utilize their oil reserves. The US companies invested tens of billions in oil infrastructure. This was all seized and nationalized when Hugo Chavez came into power. Now presumably the US companies will be invited back.

2. Neighboring Guyana just discovered massive new oil reserves, which Maduro was trying to annex by force. Now the US companies will be developing them.

3. Coupled with the US's own substantial oil reserves, this will result in the US getting the CHEAPEST PRICES FOR GAS in the ENTIRE WORLD in DECADES. Most experts predicts this will happen once supply chains get established.

4. This will spur on substantial financial growth and most Americans are not going to give a shit about anything when they're paying $1.50-$2 a gallon.

5. Meanwhile, China is increasingly super insecure about oil and constantly looking for other sources. They are super dependent on other places for oil AND food while the US is self reliant for both.

6. All of the major industrial giants in the world - The EU, India, China, Japan, South Korea, etc. They're ALL heavily reliant on foreign oil. The US is completely self sufficient and now will have Venezuela as a favorable government right in their backyard.

Suffice to say, China will NEVER be able to supplant the US as the world's superpower due to their energy problem.

7. Lessons the influence of Saudi Arabia.

The actual Venezuelans in the country will eventually be among the richest in Latin America as it previously was before

1. Venezuelans were once among the richest people in Latin America, particularly after the 1920s oil boom turned Venezuela into the wealthiest nation in the region.

2. Before Huge Chavez came into power, they used to be one of the US's biggest allies with us selling them US weapons like F-16's. They were allies for decades.

3. Once the oil infrastructure is fixed, the oil revenue will greatly help the flagging Venezuelan economy and their citizens. Venezuela still has the largest oil reserves in the entire world by a very wide margin.

4. Lastly, Maduro was indeed a brutal dictator that completely ignored the results of their last election.

 
I read that one of the thing he is getting charge with is having a "machine gun"....

Was a wtf to me.

EDIT via BBC:
"Nicolás Maduro has been charged with "Narco-Terrorism Conspiracy, Cocaine Importation Conspiracy, Possession of Machineguns and Destructive Devices, and Conspiracy to Possess Machineguns and Destructive Devices against the United States"."

Id imagine its an attempt to portray him as an "armed threat", and therefore his abduction was legal to prevent an attack on America by an armed threat.

It's laughably basic but that's my guess.
 
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Russia has controlled Crimea since 2014, there isn’t really fighting going on there.

It keeps getting struck with missiles and drones and its main bridge keeps getting taken out, preventing supplies. It isn't really habitable for normal people, making it pointless to keep.
 
It keeps getting struck with missiles and drones and its main bridge keeps getting taken out, preventing supplies. It isn't really habitable for normal people, making it pointless to keep.
its one of most popular tourist spots in russia, my friend visited in 2024

There were 6 million tourists only in 2025, hence why you have those videos of people on beach whenever something gets hit
 
It keeps getting struck with missiles and drones and its main bridge keeps getting taken out, preventing supplies. It isn't really habitable for normal people, making it pointless to keep.

Warm water port and massive military base.

Russia has little interest in more land without strategic use.

Habitable land for living wouldn't be in the top 20 priorities for Russia wanting Crimea.
 
The actual Venezuelans in the country will eventually be among the richest in Latin America as it previously was before

1. Venezuelans were once among the richest people in Latin America, particularly after the 1920s oil boom turned Venezuela into the wealthiest nation in the region.

2. Before Huge Chavez came into power, they used to be one of the US's biggest allies with us selling them US weapons like F-16's. They were allies for decades.

3. Once the oil infrastructure is fixed, the oil revenue will greatly help the flagging Venezuelan economy and their citizens. Venezuela still has the largest oil reserves in the entire world by a very wide margin.

Yeah Trump, Exxon and all the other US oil conglomerates are going in with the goal to share oil revenue with Venezuelans. But of course.
 
Yeah Trump, Exxon and all the other US oil conglomerates are going in with the goal to share oil revenue with Venezuelans. But of course.

US oil companies were in Venezuela since 1920 right until Huge Chavez nationalized everything. For literally decades, Venezuelans were on average among the richest people in Latin America.

Venezuela was even the 4th richest country in the world in the 1950's. So obviously the oil money did reach the people.
 
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Is this Matt Walsh really suggesting this has been done to help average American citizens?

Or that it will help them in the future.

What a fucking dork. It will help a select few id imagine much like the rest of the Trump presidency.

Um.... Yeah... It will obviously help the average American citizen.

Fewer drug boats smuggling fentanyl into the nation is good for the average American citizen.
It helps to kill the drug trade which is fueling the gang wars in major metropolitan areas.

More oil for America, and less oil for Iran, Russia, and China... very very good thing.

Very good for the morale of the country, and that's important.



By the way, your line of argument is interesting... Let's try it on some of the major decisions by Biden.

Turning Afghanistan back to the Taliban after 20 years and trillions of dollars wasted... How does that help the average American citizen?

Giving Ukraine $800+ billion for an endless war that they will never be able to replay... Helps the average American citizen how?

Opening up the southern border allowing 10+ million illegals, including sex & drug traffickers, & cartel members... Helps the average American citizen how?

Think you should find another point to make your emotional plea that removing a communist dictator of a narco-state is somehow a bad thing.
 
"yeah we'll remove maduro then etc etc etc"
They didn't even know about her and her insanely psychotic brother next up. They don't even know this guy who is her partner. The dude could go full Pinochet, he's known to be crazy as shit.
They no fucking clue about the monsters in both sides.
And they are giving us their 10 year forecast Totally unaware that the cult leader in orange women's make up might have just put an actual mass murdering psychopath in charge with his sister being the public front side.

Look what they typed yesterday. They had no idea.
Just curious, how did you choose your username?
 
If the Trump administration has a coherent policy behind the action in Venezuela, they certainly haven't been able to articulate it.
They haven't even been able to coherently articulate what they are going to do in Venezuela next.
 
When Russia began urging their citizens to leave Venezuela, and then not long aftewardsr Trump began giving warnings to Maduro to leave the country, i figured something was going to happen.

Hopefully a new and improved Venezuela can be created. 30 years under communist rule will be tough to change though.
 
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