Elections Democrat 2016 Primary Thread: V2 It's Still Hillary Edition

[Jack V Savage]

I can't wait until the primary is over so I never have to read another exchange between JVS and AUR on the topic of Sanders/Clinton.

Anung actually started following me around and throwing out bullshit attacks when I didn't share his love of Ron Paul way back in 2011, when I first started posting here (he'd been a fan of my HW postings). I pretty much ignored him for the first couple of years, though. So the primary (which I don't really have a horse in anyway) ending won't change anything. He's just really nasty, dishonorable human being.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

It's amazing to watch the inevitable nomination of Hillary Clinton crumble within a month.

Bengazi
Email Scandal
FBI investigations
Unlikability
Reputation as a constant liar
The rise of socialism's popularity within her own party. (And who would have thought that would work against her?)

Amazing to watch, even though I predicted it in early 2015.

 

[Anung Un Rama]

Anung actually started following me around and throwing out bullshit attacks when I didn't share his love of Ron Paul way back in 2011, when I first started posting here (he'd been a fan of my HW postings). I pretty much ignored him for the first couple of years, though. So the primary (which I don't really have a horse in anyway) ending won't change anything. He's just really nasty, dishonorable human being.

My disdain for you has nothing to do with your opinion of Ron Paul, but your dishonest tactics and shameful rhetoric (insinuating that posters are terrible people, have psychological disorders, have terrible home lives, harassing posters you feel superior to, etc, etc). You've driven a lot of quality posters out of the WR and even off this board with your nastiness. You're a really shitty human being. So now when I see you post bullshit, I feel obligated to shine a light on it.

 

[Jack V Savage]

My disdain for you has nothing to do with your opinion of Ron Paul, but your dishonest tactics and shameful rhetoric (insinuating that posters are terrible people, have psychological disorders, have terrible home lives, harassing posters you feel superior to, etc, etc).

Bullshit. It started with that, and you've never gotten over it. And you have never backed up your accusations of dishonesty. IMO, to frivolously throw that out is another mark of your low character. I've also never insinuated that you're a terrible person--I've said it straight up and backed it up. And you probably have had a terrible upbringing to get the way you are. Again, no insinuation; just a straight up observation.

You've driven a lot of quality posters out of the WR and even off this board with your nastiness. You're a really shitty human being. So now when I see you post bullshit, I feel obligated to shine a light on it.

Who have I driven out of the WR or off the board? I'm not 1/10th as nasty as you are. And I don't post bullshit. You just get mad when your own bad ideas are pointed out.

If you're talking about Oracle, note that I was the one telling him to just drop it, and he chose to post evidence that led to Chauncey (not me) exposing his gimmick. That was not something I wanted or had any part in.

 

[Lead]

I didn't know JVS and AUR disliked each other this strongly. It did liven up this thread finally though.

 

[Anung Un Rama]

Bullshit. It started with that, and you've never gotten over it. And you have never backed up your accusations of dishonesty. IMO, to frivolously throw that out is another mark of your low character. I've also never insinuated that you're a terrible person--I've said it straight up and backed it up. And you probably have had a terrible upbringing to get the way you are. Again, no insinuation; just a straight up observation.



Who have I driven out of the WR or off the board? I'm not 1/10th as nasty as you are. And I don't post bullshit. You just get mad when your own bad ideas are pointed out.

If you're talking about Oracle, note that I was the one telling him to just drop it, and he chose to post evidence that led to Chauncey (not me) exposing his gimmick. That was not something I wanted or had any part in.

1. L.O.L.
2. I may have realized you were a cunt at that point, but the reason I have a personal dislike of you is how you treat people who disagree with you. And your constant lies. You are the only person I am "nasty" to, and you've earned every bit of it.
3. You are the only person if my entire life who has that opinion of me. Fair to say you are way off. it not your comments toward me that bother me, its your bullshit toward others, who may in fact be mentally or emotionally troubled.
4. I'm not going to name names.

 

[Jack V Savage]

I didn't know JVS and AUR disliked each other this strongly. It did liven up this thread finally though.

I was letting Speak know that it's not Clinton vs. Sanders (which I really don't even care about). Anung is just a really shitty person, who has been harassing me literally for years.

 

[Anung Un Rama]

Well, you are lying about your support of Clinton and your faux support of Sanders and you have upped your rhetoric in light of the tightening race just as I figured you would.

 

[Jack V Savage]

1. L.O.L.
2. I may have realized you were a cunt at that point, but the reason I have a personal dislike of you is how you treat people who disagree with you. And your constant lies. You are the only person I am "nasty" to, and you've earned every bit of it.
3. You are the only person if my entire life who has that opinion of me. Fair to say you are way off. it not your comments toward me that bother me, its your bullshit toward others, who may in fact be mentally or emotionally troubled.
4. I'm not going to name names.

I have never lied here. You keep saying that shit, but you don't have anything to back it up, and the only reason you say it is because you lie a LOT and I call you on it. And I'd bet whatever you want that I'm not the only person who has that opinion of you. Something you said that really stuck because of how creepy it was and how well it fit was this:

My friends nicknamed me "fungus" because I slowly grow on women. I loved telling them stories of "out of nowhere" hookups with hot chicks we always hit on/ wanted to bang.

Of course you're not going to "name names" because you're just making it up, like you always do.

Well, you are lying about your support of Clinton and your faux support of Sanders and you have upped your rhetoric in light of the tightening race just as I figured you would.

That doesn't even make any sense. Just more of you lying.

 

[Anung Un Rama]

Dude. You've never lied here? You've been caught lying several times by your own standards. You just refuse to acknowledge it.
I, on the other hand, as a human being full of flaws, have made many errors on this forum and owned up to them without pause.

And I'm not going to name names because I'm not going to publicly shame people and I've forgotten a few of them as they were short lived on the forum. I'm not going to risk saying you pulled this stunt on "poster's name" only to have you call me a liar because the name was actually spelled "postER's name'.

Again, not lying. Its a very clear to see you resorting to more critical and derogatory comments on Sanders and his supporters than you did a month ago when you thought HIllary had it in the bag.

 

[Jack V Savage]

Dude. You've never lied here? You've been caught lying several times by your own standards. You just refuse to acknowledge it.

When?

I, on the other hand, as a human being full of flaws, have made many errors on this forum and owned up to them without pause.

An error isn't a lie.

And I'm not going to name names because I'm not going to publicly shame people and I've forgotten a few of them as they were short lived on the forum. I'm not going to risk saying you pulled this stunt on "poster's name" only to have you call me a liar because the name was actually spelled "postER's name'.

Your last sentence is stupid (you're not going to back up your claim because you think I might make some argument no one has ever made and I certainly wouldn't against it?), and the earlier part is just bullshit (you can't back up your claim because giving the username of people who don't read the group anymore and were anonymous would "shame" them?). If that has ever happened, I don't know about it, and I really don't believe you.

Again, not lying. Its a very clear to see you resorting to more critical and derogatory comments on Sanders and his supporters than you did a month ago when you thought HIllary had it in the bag.

Nah, you're just making that up. For one thing, Clinton is still the overwhelming favorite. My view of her chances hasn't changed since the race began. For another, I've been mildly critical of Sanders from the beginning, and I'm still mildly critical of him--just as I'm mildly critical of Clinton. They're both OK candidates, but they both have some problems from my perspective. You're not reading my posts and commenting on them; you're trying to shove me into a box and ignoring everything that doesn't fit your dishonest narrative.

 

[Pride23]

The two of you really need to just stop, its ridiculous. I have seen the two of you hijack threads one too many times. If this was the first time then I would say what ever, but I have seen the two of you go at it way too many times already. Just ignore each other, you both dont like each other, and you dont have to, why waste your energy on someone you dont like, there are more productive ways to use your energy.

 

[Anung Un Rama]

lulz. Jack, I made a error in a thread and when I admitted to it and edited the post, you called me a liar for making the error.
You do it all the time and I know you know that you do this. I know half of your posts re: me are just propaganda to save face. You say the same exact thing over and over about me: "Anung is a nasty dude" etc. Meanwhile, nobody else has that opinion of me. I like that people are fed up with our "conversations" because if they're reading them they'll see how you operate in other threads toward other people who disagree with you.

 

[Anung Un Rama]

The two of you really need to just stop, its ridiculous. I have seen the two of you hijack threads one too many times. If this was the first time then I would say what ever, but I have seen the two of you go at it way too many times already. Just ignore each other, you both dont like each other, and you dont have to, why waste your energy on someone you dont like, there are more productive ways to use your energy.

I used to say the same thing to others ben23.
I'm going to stop hijacking. Apologies to you and others.

 

[Lead]

I had an article in the GOP thread involving Bernie. The rules in NH allow independents to choose which primary they vote in. The turnout for one or the other election could be the difference for Trump/ Moderate GOP Candidates and/or Bernie

 

[wandiswar]

My disdain for you has nothing to do with your opinion of Ron Paul, but your dishonest tactics and shameful rhetoric (insinuating that posters are terrible people, have psychological disorders, have terrible home lives, harassing posters you feel superior to, etc, etc). You've driven a lot of quality posters out of the WR and even off this board with your nastiness. You're a really shitty human being. So now when I see you post bullshit, I feel obligated to shine a light on it.

You're just mad JVS is smarter then you.

 

[Jack V Savage]

lulz. Jack, I made a error in a thread and when I admitted to it and edited the post, you called me a liar for making the error.

I corrected you on it, and you keep attacking and standing behind it. Then finally you claimed it was a "typo."

I like that people are fed up with our "conversations" because if they're reading them they'll see how you operate in other threads toward other people who disagree with you.

You are truly delusional if you think that my disdain for you has to do with disagreement. Disagreement is great. You can have a good exchange when there is disagreement. But what you do is insist that I have said things and believe things that I haven't said and don't believe. That cuts off a real issue-based discussion and forces me to correct your lies.

You're just mad JVS is smarter then you.

After he started his harassment campaign, one of his first attacks on me was based on me using the word "tautology" or some form of it. That was when I realized I was dealing with someone who wasn't all there.

 

[wandiswar]

I corrected you on it, and you keep attacking and standing behind it. Then finally you claimed it was a "typo."



You are truly delusional if you think that my disdain for you has to do with disagreement. Disagreement is great. You can have a good exchange when there is disagreement. But what you do is insist that I have said things and believe things that I haven't said and don't believe. That cuts off a real issue-based discussion and forces me to correct your lies.



After he started his harassment campaign, one of his first attacks on me was based on me using the word "tautology" or some form of it. That was when I realized I was dealing with someone who wasn't all there.

And he supported Ron Paul, what a goof.

 

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Ready for Julián?

At home, Julián Castro’s been spending more time reading and watching television in Spanish, trying to get his speaking skills up to speed.

On the job as Housing and Urban Development secretary, he’s been carefully working the levers in Washington, with coaching from Bill Clinton and a twin brother who’s a popular and up-and-coming congressman himself.

Starting Saturday, he’ll be out on the trail for Hillary Clinton in in Nevada, Iowa and Maine.

 

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Iowa’s Des Moines Register endorses Clinton, Rubio

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But strategists and observers have raised questions about whether the paper’s approval can do much to influence voters – and in some cases could even be counterproductive.