Definitive 205 All-Time Ranking

[turbotime]

Shit I forgot about Rumble......205 is just so stacked. Rumble beat Lil Nog when Nog was out on the streets training for cab money.....couture.....yeah lets get him out
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Jones
Rua
Wandy
Liddell
Frank Shamrock
Rampage
Rumble
Tito Ortiz
Hendo
Lil Nog

 

[turbotime]

WAIT - is Sakuraba getting no love here? The Gracie killer?

 

[djacobox372]

Liddell - Striker without ground game

If Liddell is just a striker without a ground game than he shouldn't have been able to beat Randy, twice.

My list:

1) Jones
2) Jones
3) Jones
4) DC
5) Rua
6) Machida
7) Chuck
8) Wand
9) Rampage
10) Tito

Jones is listed 3 times to give him the proper space between himself and the next in line.

 

[Eric Silva 2.0]

Why do people have Jones on the list when he would lose to all the other ones on it without roids?

That list is a 'Pride' heavy list. You do know what was going on in Pride, right? Most of the Pride guys came over and suddenly weren't in their 'prime' anymore.

 

[BigGucci]

That list is a 'Pride' heavy list. You do know what was going on in Pride, right? Most of the Pride guys came over and suddenly weren't in their 'prime' anymore.

Jones was on roids while the fighters he was fighting were not

 

[BFoe]

Tough division to rank.

1. Jon Jones
2. Chuck Liddell
3. Rampage Jackson
4. Wanderlei Silva
5. Shogun Rua
6. Tito Ortiz
7. Daniel Cormier
8. Randy Couture
9. Lyoto Machida
10. ?? This is a really hard one. Might be Bader?

 

[Takes Two To Tango]

Tough division to rank.

1. Jon Jones
2. Chuck Liddell
3. Rampage Jackson
4. Wanderlei Silva
5. Shogun Rua
6. Tito Ortiz
7. Daniel Cormier
8. Randy Couture
9. Lyoto Machida
10. ?? This is a really hard one. Might be Bader?

Very good list.

Just curious do you think Cormier was better at HW than LHW?

 

[Eric Silva 2.0]

Jones was on roids while the fighters he was fighting were not[/QUOTE
"the fighters he was fighting were not."

Are you sure about that?

 

[CashMoney1991]

In what universe was Griffin better than Machida?

I could see putting Machida higher, it's hard to order some of these, I had Griffin better since he finished Shogun and beat Rampage

 

[Dreyga Hates You Sherbums]

How is it possible so many people do not have DC in second place???

He has like 7 title defenses and was double champ. Has only lost to the GOAT of 205

I believe the 205 GOAT ranking is the most difficult to rank. The reason being is because most 205 fighters have fought in 185 and/or 265 sometime in their careers.

1. Jones
2. Rua
3. Jackson
4. Liddell
5. Wanderlei
6. Ortiz
7. Teixeira
8. Machida
9. Evans
10. Cormier
11. Griffin
12. Blachowicz
13. Couture
14. Henderson
15. Belfort/Noguiera/Johnson

The list should look something like this:

1. Jones
2a. Wanderlei
2b. Chuck
4a. Rampage
4b. Shogun
6. Tito
7. Lyoto
8. Evans
9. Henderson
10. DC

Off the top of my head...

1. Jon Jones
2. Shogun
3. Wand
4. Rampage
5. Chocolate L
6. Frank Shamrock
7. Tito
8. Henderson
9. Saku
10. Cormier
11. Nogueira
12. Machida
13. Glover
14. Jiri
15. Jan

This is the definitive ranking of 205 division.
DC shouldnt be top 10, he only had 9 fights and was never the best fighter in his division

1.Jones
2. Shogun
3. Wand
4. Rampage
5. Chuck
6. Tito
7. Lyoto
8. Hendo
9. DC
10. Lil Nog

Tough division to rank.

1. Jon Jones
2. Chuck Liddell
3. Rampage Jackson
4. Wanderlei Silva
5. Shogun Rua
6. Tito Ortiz
7. Daniel Cormier
8. Randy Couture
9. Lyoto Machida
10. ?? This is a really hard one. Might be Bader?

 

[BFoe]

How is it possible so many people do not have DC in second place???

He has like 7 title defenses and was double champ. Has only lost to the GOAT of 205

How many title defenses?? Cormier has 3.

 

[AmonTobin]

I would have included RUMBLE. It’s like people forgot he existed.
Forrest Griffin a top 205? Ridiculous. I don’t care if he won a belt.

 

[Katsumi Yamada]

How is it possible so many people do not have DC in second place???

He has like 7 title defenses and was double champ. Has only lost to the GOAT of 205

Its because they're being ranked on their achievements at 205.
DCs biggest achievements were at HW.
He had 3 defences at 205, fewer than Jones, Tito, Chuck, Frank, Wand

 

[BFoe]

Very good list.

Just curious do you think Cormier was better at HW than LHW?

Your innocent question had me down a rabbit hole as to where I rank DC at LHW vs HW lol.
Anyway, my opinion is that he was better at HW. I think his HW resume is probably a bit better than his LHW resume, but that’s just me.

I would have included RUMBLE. It’s like people forgot he existed.
Forrest Griffin a top 205? Ridiculous. I don’t care if he won a belt.

That’s one of the big reasons why he’s not being ranked top 10 though. He had a nice string of LHW wins, but so do lots of other guys and some of them won belts. Why shouldn’t they be higher?

 

[OneOfOne]

How is it possible so many people do not have DC in second place???

He has like 7 title defenses and was double champ. Has only lost to the GOAT of 205

He barely fought anyone at 205

 

[Lawrence]

The Tito that trains five days a week, on one of those days he'll train two days a week is ranked number 5, but he's still ranked behind Chuck who's reaching for those grapes, so Tito is actually the 3rd best light heavyweight fighter of all time of the night

I spit coffee.

 

[BigGucci]

Are you sure about that?

We know that Jones tested positive, while his opponents tested negative.

Really not sure why people still say "everyone's on steroids" when only a few fighters pop.

 

[arrmike]

We know that Jones tested positive, while his opponents tested negative.

Really not sure why people still say "everyone's on steroids" when only a few fighters pop.

Lance Armstrong never popped.

 

[markys00]

Jesus some of you guys need to educate yourself on Wanderlei, did he fight drastically out of his prime? Yeah..

He was terrifying, TERRIFYING in Pride.

Rampage was at his peak (and Jackson was absolutely amazing as well) when they fought and Rampage made chuck look terrible.

Shogun is up in that regard as well.

Goat isn't about peaks.. you have to include their losses, no matter how much of shell of their former selves they become.

 

[markys00]

Lance Armstrong never popped.

Depends on what you mean by popped. Admitting usage is popping