Definitive 205 All-Time Ranking

Jones has an asterisk next to his name. Chuck was never the number one LHW in the world but beat some good guys.
 
arrmike said:
Randy always gets ranked too low on these. But he absolutely dominated prime Vitor, Chuck, and Tito.
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Most of his career was HW.

I don't object to including him, but I would think that is probably the reasoning.
 
MartinGibson86 said:
No Rumble love??


Glover, Lil Nog, Manuwa, Gus, and Bader is better than Forrest's resume
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Forrest had much more impact to the division than any of those fighters. He won the belt. His wins over PRIDE fighters Rua and Jackson legitimized UFC and TUF. He was first TUF winner, his fight with Bonnar helped the UFC. He beat #1 LHW Shogun & then UFC champ Jackson (#2 LHW) who had just beat Hendo, becoming the lineal PRIDE champ champ. Beat Tito twice and former champ Franklin. Forrest is the most important fighter to the UFC growth
 
ferrisjso said:
No I understand that but he lost most of his big fights before and after Pride and also got KO'd by Hendo as Pride was ending/never fought your Shoguns and Lil Nogs. His big streak was because Prides setup created big win streaks. I just don't his resume holds up well compared to other LHW legends not just in subsequent eras but also his own.
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If you remove all the Japanese fighters he cucked on his record against good fighters is pretty meh. He’s like 20-14. His record against what would be ranked or elite fighters when he faced them last even worse. Loved watching Wandy in squash matches though. He definitely lost more big fights / legacy fights than he won.
 
Jonah Raine said:
6-3 at LHW, half of those wins arent good
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Tbh before Machida and Jones the Liddell, Ortiz, Belfort wins were as good a 3 fight run as anyone in the division had ever been on. The Belfort loss in between was largely seen as a fluke because of how it happened.

Not disagreeing with you just making an observation.
 
anuscakes said:
Jones has an asterisk next to his name. Chuck was never the number one LHW in the world but beat some good guys.
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what are you talking about? Never the number one ranked LHW in the world? Where you even a fan then? Fighters only magazine, a magazine that shit all over the UFC, that elevated pride onto a godtier pedestal, ran a cover asking "has Chuck Liddell surpassed Fedor as the #1 p4p fighter in the world"

That's all anybody needs to know


Lemme guess "never good enough to beat shogun" you mean the same Shogun that babulu dominated just 3 fights before being knocked out by a back peddling Liddell

"Oh but he lost to rampage"
Yeah if Rampage was a UFC fighter he wouldn't have sniffed a title shot, he had zero chance against couture against Tito, hell even bablu would have beaten him
 
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It's hard to rank the LHW's they all have losses to each other.
 
Jonah Raine said:
Forrest had much more impact to the division than any of those fighters. He won the belt. His wins over PRIDE fighters Rua and Jackson legitimized UFC and TUF. He was first TUF winner, his fight with Bonnar helped the UFC. He beat #1 LHW Shogun & then UFC champ Jackson (#2 LHW) who had just beat Hendo, becoming the lineal PRIDE champ champ. Beat Tito twice and former champ Franklin. Forrest is the most important fighter to the UFC growth
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Important...impact...ufc growth...


Rumble was a way better fighter and should be ranked higher.

He beat Shogun and was gifted the rampage decision.


Tito and Franklin lol


Rumble also beat Phil Davis, which i forgot...so, Gus, Glover, Lil Nog, Bader, Davis,and Manua,
 
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I think Hendo might be getting underrated as a 205er. He has an overall record of 14-9 with 4 of those losses coming at the end of his career. His peak record is 13-5 at LHW.

He has wins over Wanderlei, Shogun 2x, Vitor, Bustamante, Sobral, Calvalcante, Ninja, Kondo, Nakamura, and Rich Franklin. He was also able to win a major 205 belt in Pride and a respectable one in Strikeforce. He should definitely make the top 10.
 
All I can say is I really missed out not getting to watch Pride. That must've been awesome.
 
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