DC might have checkmated JBJ...

chaos_36 said:
Okay you let your naivety and fandom cloud your judgement if you wish, that's your prerogative. Your logic (or lack thereof) suggests Jon has only failed the tests that we have evidence for therefore he has only cheated those times. He has also only done coke that one weekend and has only had sex a couple of times with his fiance as evident by his only kids being to her. Man do people not use common sense or intuition any more? It's kind of sad people don't trust their own instincts.
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chaos_36 said:
I don't have evidence
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Asked and answered ^^^ you going back & forth with your "buts" and use "logic" I really just don't care; do you have proof of life long use..? Getting a "Bump" here and there don't constitute life long use big, difference between a guy who might short boost for a upcoming fight or a burner who does it all the time for fights, workouts, the streets, the clubs, none of your "buts" is gonna convince me that Jon is a burner be I fanboy or hater...


We done now...?
 
paynebringer said:
Asked and answered ^^^ you going back & forth with your "buts" and use "logic" I really just don't care; do you have proof of life long use..? Getting a "Bump" here and there don't constitute life long use big, difference between a guy who might short boost for a upcoming fight or a burner who does it all the time for fights, workouts, the streets, the clubs, none of your "buts" is gonna convince me that Jon is a burner be I fanboy or hater...


We done now...?
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Yeah we're done. There's no use in creating a dialogue with someone whose fandom has blinded them from inductive reasoning. You're right Jon has used cocaine once, PEDs twice or is it 3 times he's been caught now? And has had sex 4 times, the last time was 5 or 6 years ago as evident by the age of his youngest child. This would certainly make the dick pill excuse a valid one Lmao. You Jones dick riders crack me up, keep grasping at straws dude.

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Not a fan of jones by any means, but he made dc sob like a child in middle of octagon. That is check mate
 
chaos_36 said:
Yeah we're done. There's no use in creating a dialogue with someone whose fandom has blinded them from inductive reasoning. You're right Jon has used cocaine once, PEDs twice or is it 3 times he's been caught now? And has had sex 4 times, the last time was 5 or 6 years ago as evident by the age of his youngest child. This would certainly make the dick pill excuse a valid one Lmao. You Jones dick riders crack me up, keep grasping at straws dude.

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Yeah, we done here until you got something more than @chaos_36 gut feelings, instincts and people intuition...
 
I’m sick of this crap. People can do/say whatever to feel better. I can’t stop them.

The fact is Jones beat DC twice. Controversy or not, it did happen.
 
gono btw said:
legacy goes beyond H2H...

Weidman beat Spider twice, is he greater legacy-wise?
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Jon jones not only beat DC twice, he's also dominated lhw longer than him. If spider is greater than the chris, jones is greater than dc
 
CRuck1980 said:
Jon jones not only beat DC twice, he's also dominated lhw longer than him. If spider is greater than the chris, jones is greater than dc
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bigger picture, bigger picture... read the thread
 
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I think DC is better suited to go to HW than JBJ, Jon is going to give up most of the freakish size advantages he’s allowed at LHW.

He comes back off a layoff at HW and he’s gonna get his chin rattled
 
gono btw said:
bigger picture, bigger picture... read the thread
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I read your thread and the point is that dc has not done enough in his career up surpass Jones and his losses to him. This isn't a case like Hallman and Hughes
 
CRuck1980 said:
I read your thread and the point is that dc has not done enough in his career up surpass Jones and his losses to him. This isn't a case like Hallman and Hughes
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nah, H2H´s not enough in the bigger picture
+ DC = 1st HW run + 2 wins over dangerous & feared Rumble + 2nd HW run win over ATG Stipe
 
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gono btw said:
nah, H2H´s not enough in the bigger picture
+ DC = 1st HW run + 2 wins over dangerous & feared Rumble + 2nd HW run win over ATG Stipe
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It's not just H2H, jones has a long dominant run at LHW. Despite DC's accomplishments, his biggest and most significant events in his career surround his feud with jon Jones and his inability to beat jones is going to ring out just as loud as his title wins
 
CRuck1980 said:
It's not just H2H, jones has a long dominant run at LHW. Despite DC's accomplishments, his biggest and most significant events in his career surround his feud with jon Jones and his inability to beat jones is going to ring out just as loud as his title wins
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nah, his win over Stipe has just become a key element in this legacy thing.
 
gono btw said:
It is indeed, but DC has been adding multiple elements to consider.. while JBJ has been losing his prime years...
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That's true, but that works against DC as well because if Jones never fights again, dc won't face the opportunity to alter that image of him losing to him
 
Ozze said:
Without the PEDs debate DC is 0-2 against Jones with one of those losses being a KO.

I think Jones will always be superior, specially since he's undefeated so you can't really say that he just has DC number.
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Without the PED debate (which there’s nothing to debate, he’s a cheat), there is no Jon Jones
 
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