Crime Daniel Penny Found NOT GUILTY OF CRIMINALLY NEGLIGENT HOMICIDE

[cincymma79]

Its funny how even in a topic where most people agree with you, you are still much of a pussy.

You’re using the same fucking stupid as arguments for every event like the answer changed. Find new arguments. Crazy violent homeless person fucked around and found out. The end. I know you watched John wick and think you’d use a super nerve pinch to incapacitate him and then press his uber goober nerve bundle turning him sane again and you’d both go have a tazo yea at Starbucks where you then start a blistering love affair with a wedding in the poconos. Wrap it all up with you both eating strawberries you grew during a fungal zombie outbreak….but that’s not how a street fight works. Ever.

 

[Rod1]

It was a contributing factor obviously.

It was what the autopsy revealed

And the defense argued he was holding on for dear life? Dude this is what you do every time and it’s old. No they didn’t. That makes zero sense.

The defense argued that Penny was scared of Neely and that's the reason why he kept the choke after he went limp, the jury during deliberation asked the judge about what "reasonable person" would be believe at the time and whether his conduct deviated from that.

They never questioned the autopsy that showed neck compression (a proper RNC on the other hand is a blood choke).

In the end Penny walked because its reasonable for a regular (untrained) person to hold for dear life on a choke that fails to achieve what i believe Penny thought (that a person passes out really quickly).

The reality is that the guy choked another man to death because he failed to secure a choke and even after the guy stopped being a threat and 2 more people joined to help and told him the guy was out the guy kept the choke going on.

 

[Rod1]

You’re using the same fucking stupid as arguments

The fuck are you on about? the dude literally said that Penny was in the right to keep a choke on an unconsciouss man because otherwise the guy may regain consciousness and start attacking back.

What fucking logical conclusion am i supposed to draw from that?

 

[Rod1]

I know you watched John wick

Its pretty funny how say this stupid shit in a fucking MMA board, so not only you don't train, it seems you don't even watch MMA because its quite idiotic for you to question the effectiveness of the RNC

I just did judo in college and been doing either BJJ or Judo for around 20 years after leaving college.

There is not "nerve pinch" involved in the RNC its a blood choke, its just that morons like you who "trains UFC" think the only thing you need to do with grab someone by the neck and pull back, which doesn't cuts blood flow but air flow and partially because the neck is surrounded by very strong muscles, that's why you have retards like @Fox by the Sea saying that "this guy resisted but the other guy didn't" when presented with a video of a guy doing an RNC properly, its just that there is no resistance because even if you tighten your neck, which helps against the trachea choke (trachea is protected by muscle) the carotids are on the outside.

Its even worse if you go to the ground and continue to pull back, because now the floor is there and you can't pull back anymore, what you need to to is tighten the choke, not pull back, and you tighten the choke by actually not going back but compressing your chest forward.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

Its pretty funny how say this stupid shit in a fucking MMA board, so not only you don't train, it seems you don't even watch MMA because its quite idiotic for you to question the effectiveness of the RNC

I just did judo in college and been doing either BJJ or Judo for around 20 years after leaving college.

There is not "nerve pinch" involved in the RNC its a blood choke, its just that morons like you who "trains UFC" think the only thing you need to do with grab someone by the neck and pull back, which doesn't cuts blood flow but air flow and partially because the neck is surrounded by very strong muscles, that's why you have retards like @Fox by the Sea saying that "this guy resisted but the other guy didn't" when presented with a video of a guy doing an RNC properly, its just that there is no resistance because even if you tighten your neck, which helps against the trachea choke (trachea is protected by muscle) the carotids are on the outside.

Its even worse if you go to the ground and continue to pull back, because now the floor is there and you can't pull back anymore, what you need to to is tighten the choke, not pull back, and you tighten the choke by actually not going back but compressing your chest forward.

oh shut the fuck up you coward.

 

[Rod1]

oh shut the fuck up you coward.

Im not going to argue with retards who think you can "tough up" a fucking RNC.

I wonder why MMA athletes "don't resist" when they get caught in them.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

Im not going to argue with retards

you're the retard.

 

[Rod1]

you're the retard.

A retard with enough grappling experience to understand the difference between a blood and a trachea choke, you learn that shit like in the first few months of training.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

A retard

that's all i need to read. thanks for confirming it.

 

[Rod1]

that's all i need to read. thanks for confirming it.

It takes one to know one.

 

[Horse Style]

Rod1 sounds like he never trained in his life. He sounds more like a dude that likes to watch BJJ and read up on BJJ and somehow thinks he's an expert.

Everybody is wrong, even the NYC left-leaning justice system, except him, a guy who once compared getting someone in a RNC to a serial killer slicing someone's throat.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

It takes one to know one.

congrats at calling yourself a retard.
not like it's a surprise to anybody.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

Rod1 sounds like he never trained in his life. He sounds more like a dude that likes to watch BJJ and read up on BJJ and somehow thinks he's an expert.

Everybody is wrong, even the NYC left-leaning justice system, except him, a guy who once compared getting someone in a RNC to a serial killer slicing someone's throat.

bro he's got 46 years of training bro

 

[cincymma79]

Its pretty funny how say this stupid shit in a fucking MMA board, so not only you don't train, it seems you don't even watch MMA because its quite idiotic for you to question the effectiveness of the RNC

I just did judo in college and been doing either BJJ or Judo for around 20 years after leaving college.

There is not "nerve pinch" involved in the RNC its a blood choke, its just that morons like you who "trains UFC" think the only thing you need to do with grab someone by the neck and pull back, which doesn't cuts blood flow but air flow and partially because the neck is surrounded by very strong muscles, that's why you have retards like @Fox by the Sea saying that "this guy resisted but the other guy didn't" when presented with a video of a guy doing an RNC properly, its just that there is no resistance because even if you tighten your neck, which helps against the trachea choke (trachea is protected by muscle) the carotids are on the outside.

Its even worse if you go to the ground and continue to pull back, because now the floor is there and you can't pull back anymore, what you need to to is tighten the choke, not pull back, and you tighten the choke by actually not going back but compressing your chest forward.

I’m going to let you think about what you’ve posted

 

[Rod1]

He sounds more like a dude that likes to watch BJJ

This is how i can tell you are full of shit, not even BJJ guys like to watch BJJ.

 

[Rod1]

bro he's got 46 years of training bro

You don't even need half a year to understand how effective it is, probably you will learn the first day you spar during no-gi.

But even if i never trained and only watched UFC, the RNC is by a huge margin, the most effective submission in MMA with the most number of subs in UFC history, in fact its about twice amount as the 2nd and 3rd combined.

And that's against top athletes in a 1v1, this was a 3v1 and Penny got the jump on Neely and still couldn't finish it.

 

[Rod1]

I’m going to let you think about what you’ve posted

So you think it was wrong or not to keep the choke after Neely passed out? because not even the defense argued that.

 

[cincymma79]

So you think it was wrong or not to keep the choke after Neely passed out? because not even the defense argued that.

Do you think someone with a week of grappling in boot camp knows enough to be able to tell in that scenario? This isn’t a novice bracket in the naga. As stated before, nobody anywhere agrees with you.

 

[Rod1]

Do you think someone with a week of grappling in boot camp knows enough to be able to tell in that scenario? This isn’t a novice bracket in the naga. As stated before, nobody anywhere agrees with you.

That was my fucking argument in the first place, that the dude clearly was not up to the task, got scared and then killed the dude because he was afraid to release.

I understand his fear and i understand why the jury acquitted, people overestimate his own abilities and his own strength all the time until they put it to the test.

 

[Cole train]

Reminds me of a time i was working the door and almost had to put hands on some drugged up retard

5 minutes later i saw him get seizure on street and get picked up by parameds, would have been bad for me if i had to forcefully throw him out and he drops.

Rnc is considered "high risk " maneuver here, its legal and healthy person should be fine after you use it but usually people you engage are not healthy kind and pumped full of drugs and health issues so not recommended if can be avoided due to potential court problems and moral problems