Media Dana White responds to media member's "stupid question" about Jones vs Ngannou, PFL co-promotion

Turns out "what he deserved" really just means that money should fall from the sky, or someone who isn't me should take a massive loss and just hand him money out of their pocket. If it was "what he deserved", he and Fury should have to fight several more times for free to work off the money their event lost.

Well said. 100% agreed.
 
"The hottest ticket around" just sold 10,000 PPVs with the biggest draw in boxing and the event lost tens of millions, but the UFC should promote a B league org and give an automatic title shot to someone who isn't in the UFC and isn't going to be after the fight against an injured champ who's out for at least 8 months?

Honestly, some of you people are just fucking retarded.
Lol calm down princess
 
Everyone wants to fight him, everyone wants to watch him fight. He's a hot ticket.
62k PPV in North America for his boxing bout. The numbers don't lie.

It's moot anyway. Francis is doing well, he's doing what he wants and I don't see him cooperating with the UFC.
 
Dana's not interested, he tried to make that fight. Stupid question.

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Vince is right, he's a much better businessman.

He'd have made that fight happen.


Vince is definitely smart enough to ignore questions that you shouldn't be answering because you're about to go to trial for a massive antitrust suit and have another one pending.

This is response is going to end up in evidence against the UFC.

Dana is so arrogant that he can't contain himself from giving them ammunition.
 
62k PPV in North America for his boxing bout. The numbers don't lie.

It's moot anyway. Francis is doing well, he's doing what he wants and I don't see him cooperating with the UFC.

The numbers came from Dave Meltzer.

I wouldn't be surprised if that event bombed on PPV, but I have no idea why everybody took Meltzer's word as the gospel.

Meltzer admitted that he stopped reporting on UFC PPVs after they signed the ESPN deal because ESPN is tight-lipped about streaming and double paywall PPV figures.

...but all of a sudden, Meltzer has an exact number shortly after a fight after having no access to anybody in the company before now.

Like I said, I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't do well, but the source can't even be trusted to report on pro wrestling, which is supposedly his field of expertise.
 
Vince is definitely smart enough to ignore questions that you shouldn't be answering because you're about to go to trial for a massive antitrust suit and have another one pending.

This is response is going to end up in evidence against the UFC.

Dana is so arrogant that he can't contain himself from giving them ammunition.

Can't contain himself from giving them ammunition.

How so Phisher, not following ya.
 
Vince controls the outcome of the match lol, it's apples and oranges.

It would be bad business for Dana to work with PFL for one fight vs Ngannou, risk him beating Jones, elevating another company and devaluing the UFC heavyweight championship. Not smart.

They already devalued the heavyweight championship by letting Ngannou go to PFL. How is making the fight "bad business"? Jones is gonna retire regardless. Whether he fights a washed Stipe or Ngannou doesn't change the state of their heavyweight division. Aspinall is their champ regardless.
 
They already devalued the heavyweight championship by letting Ngannou go to PFL. How is making the fight "bad business"? Jones is gonna retire regardless. Whether he fights a washed Stipe or Ngannou doesn't change the state of their heavyweight division. Aspinall is their champ regardless.

Ngannou didn't take his status as the current champion with him when he left, belts get vacated all the time. Nowhere near as big of a deal as you're claiming.

You don't see why it would be foolish to put Jones in the cage with somebody the UFC doesn't have an ongoing contract with?

Think of it from the UFC's perspective not a fan's perspective. Jon possibly getting nuked by some guy the UFC doesn't have an ongoing multi-fight contract with would be a big problem. Aspinall doesn't even factor into it.
 
Ngannou didn't take his status as the current champion with him when he left, belts get vacated all the time. Nowhere near as big of a deal as you're claiming.

Then what's the problem with making the fight? You're the one who brought up devaluing the title

You don't see why it would be foolish to put Jones in the cage with somebody the UFC doesn't have an ongoing contract with?

What's the problem? Its the fight fans want to see.

Think of it from the UFC's perspective not a fan's perspective. Jon possibly getting nuked by some guy the UFC doesn't have an ongoing multi-fight contract with would be a big problem. Aspinall doesn't even factor into it.

Again, Jones is RETIRING. What's the problem?
 
Why was he the number one topic to discuss in fighting (period) after the fight? Why is he still the no. One topic? Imagine being this fucking stupid.
Because that was the big fight that weekend to answer your first question and to your second hahahaha, good one.
 
Does anyone care to fill in the blanks and explain why that was such a dumb question?
 
Funny that Dana shit on bones for not getting the deal done after jon priced himself out. Ngannou leaves. Jones beats Gane and now it’s Francis that killed the right. Dana would never risk Francis taking Jons head and walking away again.

dana hates fighters he can bully into dogshit contracts. Francis knew his worth, went out and got himself paid big.

Enjoy your two interim HW titles, Dana.
 
The numbers came from Dave Meltzer.

I wouldn't be surprised if that event bombed on PPV, but I have no idea why everybody took Meltzer's word as the gospel.

Meltzer admitted that he stopped reporting on UFC PPVs after they signed the ESPN deal because ESPN is tight-lipped about streaming and double paywall PPV figures.

...but all of a sudden, Meltzer has an exact number shortly after a fight after having no access to anybody in the company before now.

Like I said, I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't do well, but the source can't even be trusted to report on pro wrestling, which is supposedly his field of expertise.
Fair enough.
 
He cant admit in anyway that he fucked up with Ngannou and now has to double down. Typical Dana
How as consumers can we get rid of Dana serious question. We have the power not to buy ppv or ESPN. What else is there is to do.
It would sell like crazy, but there's a good chance the UFC's goat would be KO'd and Ngannou could walk out in the sunset to PFL and that's too bad of an outcome.
Both parties would benefit.
Just like pride fc co-promoted with UFC it helped UFC fight top tier opposition.
 
The event didn’t do well in North America. That’s it. Why does everyone over here think that if they don’t do well over here, it’s over? North America only has 380 million people. Compared to Europe that has 742 million people. The even wasn’t targeted here. It was targeted over there. You had an English and African fighters. Neither of wich are from this side of the world. Hosted in Saudi Arabia. It was on at 2 in the afternoon here (pst). Until we see numbers from ppv, tv deals, gate, sponsorships. It’s impossible to know if the even lost/drew even/ or made money. We know one number, that’s it.
This is the real comment here add in American exceptionalism comment here.
 
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