Dana White has absolutely ruined the UFC in the last few years, especially this year

We’ve listed our suggestions like marble floors (improved CTE delivery and blood pops on the polished stone), electrified fence to prevent wall n stall, mote with salt water crocodiles and draw bridge (so fighters always get interviewed while concussed)… etc
 
markys00 said:
How can you possibly say that when we got khamzat vs DDP coming up?

Legit DREAM matchup. Its still real to me dammmit
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Khamzat vs Usman was a title eliminator, you know what if had Khamzat git title shot before DDP? there wouldn't be no such thing as DDP, Khamzat will and should win too.

Also it has 1 title fight, why no Zhang vs Virna as a Co-Main? Also we've been wanting Khamzat to fight for the title forever, Dana/UFC killed fans hype, like fuck them you sons of bitches.
 
Dana ain't doing shit but showing up for press at the events. Most of his time is spent with Power Slap and trying to get the Ali Act repealed so that he can embarrass himself in boxing.

This is all Hunter Campbell and TKO.
 
The promotion sucks because there's no storyline... No fighters seems to be allowed to speak on the media about they're fighting, no names called, the audience doesn't know what's happening. Whatever made them take this route idk what it is but damn it sucks... The promotion sucks a lot. It's like the biggest stars have now even a guy from lower weight classes as they "equivalent". It's absolutely terrible, fans don't know anything going on, wow did they ruin the UFC with this TKO or whatever BS promotion that's one of the lamest shit I've ever seen.
 
Dana is powerful and has a lot of say in decision-making, but people thinking he has the arbitrary power of an unhinged dictator when he owns 10% of a multi-billion dollar company that is part of an even bigger conglomerate with exorbitant financial interests is pretty telling of how fucking naive people are even into adulthood.

Does anyone really think that Endeavor or TKO GH just said "Go on, Dana, as CEO you run everything at your discretion!"

No wonder politics is what it is...
 
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It's also part of the $ ... How many BS nonsensical news have we had this year? Lots of. Last year was a special year in ufc, 2023 too, I thought they were very good. This year in special that is horrible IMO. The TKO promotion took over more strongly.

And they're leveraging the digital era. Nowadays, every click and access to pages, every engagement = money.

Look at the threads here, those are generally stuff that in 2023 we'd be "wtf Khamzat playing butt touch with Pico??" ... Wtf, Connor Ireland President??" ... " Wtf, Ankalaev hacked Pereira's account??" ... Those are all nonsensical threads but these are the news we have. And they likely know that the most stories, as nonsense and laughable as they are, they can make, more ppl are going to discuss it — not because ppl like shit honestly, but we like to troll too, it's like seeing silly YouTube videos, comedy stuff — so instead of that tuff thing that isn't " as clickable", those nonsense huge amount of news unstoppable end up generating more engagement and then, profit... even if the soul itself of the mma — storyline, fighters doing media, the audience knowing what's going on — is greatly missed by fans like us... that like the story line, not just.... Random fights....
 
rjmbrd said:
Hard to believe but that was 8 years ago.

What is happening now is relative to Dana being checked out and Ari taking Endeavor public flopping - to the point he was kicked out (with a big paycheck) out of his own company he founded.

It'll be interesting to see how the media rights go. If they could pull off a Netflix, other people would get in the mix and the product might improve. That seems less than likely from now though.

My best guess is the rights are split up and Amazon because the new PPV partner, and they already have a fully built-out PPV model in their apps. In this scenario rights go to a few different parties but PPV goes to Amazon and the product just gets squeezed even worse.
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I'll be honest I have not looked into any of what you said and didn't know about him being kicked out or any of that. That said, I still think it was a clear start of the decline after WME purchased UFC. The cards started watering down, more interim titles and shit and they made it clear that they were only looking for the biggest money bag they could the right now instead of any kind of future thinking. And that obviously doesn't go from 0 to 100 over night but happens incrementally and keeps getting worse.
 
guys, it's not Dana, even though i know you want it to be. it's WME/IMG that allow this stuff to happen. they run the show. they're ruining WWE the same way too. you'd know this if you'd pay attention to how the UFC has been since being acquired by TKO. it's ran with a ruthlessness that wasn't there before they took over. they cut guys who are clearly good, load up on cheap rock'em sock'em robot fighters because they think the casuals want that "excitement" and it's cost effective for their bottomline.

you guys keep blaming Dana but he's a minnow in a sea of sharks that is WME/IMG. he's not the big fish in the little pond anymore, he's out in the open ocean now and there's way more powerful guys in charge than he is.
 
I don't think Dana is really running the show anymore. It's a bunch of suits trying to squeeze every last penny they can out of the UFC brand. No different from every corporate boardroom these days. I really have to wonder who is buying the PPV's these days? I never hear people talking about it anymore. It used to be every sports bar in town would show the fights now none in my area do. It's been almost a decade since I attended a fight party. Even being involved in BJJ none of the guys ever get together to watch fights anymore. I went to several UFC's back in the day, and now they have priced out average folks. Just checked on Ticketmaster and 2 bad tickets for UFC 319 is a grand.
 
Pancake Sprawl said:
guys, it's not Dana, even though i know you want it to be. it's WME/IMG that allow this stuff to happen. they run the show. they're ruining WWE the same way too. you'd know this if you'd pay attention to how the UFC has been since being acquired by TKO. it's ran with a ruthlessness that wasn't there before they took over. they cut guys who are clearly good, load up on cheap rock'em sock'em robot fighters because they think the casuals want that "excitement" and it's cost effective for their bottomline.

you guys keep blaming Dana but he's a minnow in a sea of sharks that is WME/IMG. he's not the big fish in the little pond anymore, he's out in the open ocean now and there's way more powerful guys in charge than he is.
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Dana comes to the table and says "lets focus a little more on quality this year instead of just pure profits and nothing else"

The table:

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Pancake Sprawl said:
guys, it's not Dana, even though i know you want it to be. it's WME/IMG that allow this stuff to happen. they run the show. they're ruining WWE the same way too. you'd know this if you'd pay attention to how the UFC has been since being acquired by TKO. it's ran with a ruthlessness that wasn't there before they took over. they cut guys who are clearly good, load up on cheap rock'em sock'em robot fighters because they think the casuals want that "excitement" and it's cost effective for their bottomline.

you guys keep blaming Dana but he's a minnow in a sea of sharks that is WME/IMG. he's not the big fish in the little pond anymore, he's out in the open ocean now and there's way more powerful guys in charge than he is.
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It's Endeavor Group Holdings now, which is north of 13.5b in valuation. It was acquired by Silver Lake for a 25 billion valuation. Not to mention they hold contracts with some of the largest entertainment companies and conglomerates in the planet, including ESPN for now, and formerly FOX.

But people think somehow Dana does things as he pleases without checks and balances.

The stupidity in these forums is truly, truly amazing.
 
usernamee said:
It's the WME takeover

Dana is just riding the ship at this point
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Dana could make many beneficial changes as far as the way they promote. He's not doing shit but the bare minimal (if that). Also rule changes, no Apex, having cards in different countries, get rid of half the roster, no more slap fighting, etc etc.
 
Poirierfan said:
Dana could make many beneficial changes as far as the way they promote. He's not doing shit but the bare minimal (if that). Also rule changes, no Apex, having cards in different countries, get rid of half the roster, etc etc.
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Dana would never be allowed to do any of that, stop the Apex, get rid of half the roster etc. All that shit impacts their bottom line and that's all the WME cares about.
 
usernamee said:
Dana comes to the table and says "lets focus a little more on quality this year instead of just pure profits and nothing else"

The table:

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i wouldn't be that surprised if that's why Dana is in his "idgaf" phase. we all know what kind of scumbag shit Dana does/did, but there's one thing we should ALL agree upon. he had real passion for the sport. he wanted to make the biggest fights. he wanted to have the best fighters. that's not what this UFC is about in 2025.
 
Well he's not here to cater to the whiny and self entitled needs of people who online stream every event anyway.

My advice to you is to just enjoy the good fights you're still getting.
 
usernamee said:
Dana would never be allowed to do any of that, stop the Apex, get rid of half the roster etc. All that shit impacts their bottom line and that's all the WME cares a
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WME doesn't stop Dana from doing his Job, Dana's the one that's half assing it. They would make more money if Dana would probably promote, he's too busy fucking off with Slap fighting and gambling to come up with anything worth a shit.
 
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