Media Dana confirms Jon Jones retired

JudoThrowFiasco said:
Or, just let go of the belt and let Tom move forward. It's a bitch move considering Shogun gave Jon the respect to challenge him
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Why do you guys keep ignoring that Jon said he was retiring after Stipe way back when Tom was still coming off his loss to Blaydes and wasn't even in contention.

The Shogun comparisons are also just flat out dumb for so many reasons.

- Shogun was only 29, not 38
- Tom is 32, not 23 like Jon was
- Jon holds the record for most title defences in UFC history so has already given the most opportunities in UFC history for someone to take his belt
- Jon was a short notice replacement for Rashad who had the title shot and probably would've beaten Shogun
- Tom has more fights and has been in MMA way long than Jon did

You should really look into your talking points before just regurgitating them.
 
markg171 said:
Why do you guys keep ignoring that Jon said he was retiring after Stipe way back when Tom was still coming off his loss to Blaydes and wasn't even in contention.

The Shogun comparisons are also just flat out dumb for so many reasons.

- Shogun was only 29, not 38
- Tom is 32, not 23 like Jon was
- Jon holds the record for most title defences in UFC history so has already given the most opportunities in UFC history for someone to take his belt
- Jon was a short notice replacement for Rashad who had the title shot and probably would've beaten Shogun
- Tom has more fights and has been in MMA way long than Jon did

You should really look into your talking points before just regurgitating them.
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thing is Jon didn't retire in the cage, because he still hoped he might get the Peirera fight, meaning it took half a year for him to finally vacate the title.
 
Prazeres said:
thing is Jon didn't retire in the cage, because he still hoped he might get the Peirera fight, meaning it took half a year for him to finally vacate the title.
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Jon's been saying since May 2023 Stipe was likely his last fight. Pereira didn't even win the LHW belt until November 2023, the very card Jon was expecting to have his last fight on.
 
1st read that as DanaConfims : Jon -Jones - Retahded.
 
So, now that exactly what was supposed to happen happened, who will be Aspinall's first Undisputed title defense?
 
markg171 said:
Jon's been saying since May 2023 Stipe was likely his last fight. Pereira didn't even win the LHW belt until November 2023, the very card Jon was expecting to have his last fight on.
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and he changed his mind in the time between the cancellation of the Stipe fight and its rebooking, he clearly was interested in a fight with Alex.
 
Prazeres said:
and he changed his mind in the time between the cancellation of the Stipe fight and its rebooking, he clearly was interested in a fight with Alex.
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Jon was out injured the entire length of Pereira's sensational 2024 run as champion, and then still went and had his Stipe fight anyways.

It was always wishful thinking that MAYBE if Pereira got by Ank and wanted to move up that that might be enough to have Jon reconsider a plan he'd had since 2023. And probably since 2020 as he dropped the LHW belt the day after Stipe won the trilogy against DC.

Stipe has always been his endgame.
 
Captain Herb said:
He retired after he ducked. Never do that! Always retire before you duck (if you care what people say about your career)
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Jon can say whatever he wants, but he does care. No matter how many times he talks about living his best life, that man is bothered by all the duck talk.

Now if the UFC just didn't give him what he asked, I don't blame him. Tom is a dangerous fight, and if I was in Jon's shoes, I'd want 30 to 50 milli too! Especially considering the fact that it'd be a retirement fight.
 
markg171 said:
Why do you guys keep ignoring that Jon said he was retiring after Stipe way back when Tom was still coming off his loss to Blaydes and wasn't even in contention.

The Shogun comparisons are also just flat out dumb for so many reasons.

- Shogun was only 29, not 38
- Tom is 32, not 23 like Jon was
- Jon holds the record for most title defences in UFC history so has already given the most opportunities in UFC history for someone to take his belt
- Jon was a short notice replacement for Rashad who had the title shot and probably would've beaten Shogun
- Tom has more fights and has been in MMA way long than Jon did

You should really look into your talking points before just regurgitating them.
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You defeat your own points.

Shogun had 26 training camps and 3 career eneding knee injuries when he fought Jones.

Jones had 14 fights.

That's a difference of 12 fight camps and 3 career ending injuries between Jones and Shogun.

Compared to Jones at 30 fights to Tom's 18 thats the same number of fight/camp differential except Jones doesn't have 3 career ending injuries.

Jon v Shogun is an easier matchup for Jon than Tom v Jon for Tom. Jones doesn't have the injuries Shogun had. Plus Tom has more wear and tear on his body than Jon did when he fought Shogun.

And Tom has more to lose than Jon did when Jon fought Shogun.

No matter which way you dice it. Jon had the easier and better opportunities
 
Anyone make the compilation yet of Dana "100% this fight is happening" to "Jon Jones retired"

That'll get some views lol
 
markg171 said:
Jon was out injured the entire length of Pereira's sensational 2024 run as champion, and then still went and had his Stipe fight anyways.

It was always wishful thinking that MAYBE if Pereira got by Ank and wanted to move up that that might be enough to have Jon reconsider a plan he'd had since 2023. And probably since 2020 as he dropped the LHW belt the day after Stipe won the trilogy against DC.

Stipe has always been his endgame.
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Definitely fighting the old cripple was his endgame.

Glad you're coming to terms that Jon old Bones Jones only had the Stipe fight in him before he needed to hang it up.

Leave the division for the real champ.
 
Killhippies said:
So who wants to start a pool for Jon's next crime now that he has all the free time in world?

I think beating up a Thai ladyboy is looking strong in the cards.
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Only had to wait a few hours for this, disappointed but should have known as hit n run is a Jon Jones classic.

Shrooms with a hoe gets bonus points I suppose.
 
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