Media Dana confirms Jon Jones retired

volcom5 said:
Dude, you fucking lie too much man and change history. 26 training camps? Before the Jones fight? Lol the fuck are you talking about, “training camps” wasnt even really a thing till 06-07’s fighters were still trying to figure out what works in preparation for a fight. Lol at career ending knee injuries, this isn’t the 1990’s. By the way Shogun Rua himself said he wasn’t injured for the Jones fight, but you still claim he was. And you wonder why I call you dishonest.
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Isn't training camp an established thing across sports? A quick googling brought up Ricco talking about being in camp like it's normal in 2003, and the concept of intense full time training pre fight is pretty obvious
if anything the gym wars in places like Chute Boxe in Shogun's day were more grueling and injurious than today's training thanks to the awareness of the long term effects garnered from those old guys
Shogun didn't have a current acute injury at the time of the Jones fight but it was his comeback fight from suffering one, with another two previous to that in quick succession
 
hymn said:
Isn't training camp an established thing across sports? A quick googling brought up Ricco talking about being in camp like it's normal in 2003, and the concept of intense full time training pre fight is pretty obvious
if anything the gym wars in places like Chute Boxe in Shogun's day were more grueling and injurious than today's training thanks to the awareness of the long term effects garnered from those old guys
Shogun didn't have a current acute injury at the time of the Jones fight but it was his comeback fight from suffering one, with another two previous to that in quick succession
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Full time training camp back then were 3x a week for a few hrs. Rampage talked about training with Ricco back in the day and he said they would train for a few hrs sparring then go about there life. The only grueling part of their “full time training camps” were the hard sparring, yes that is true, but some make people make it out to be these fighters were training 8-12weeks everyday, sparring everyday hard everyday when in reality you dont know if these guys were training 1x, 2x or 3x a week for a specific number of hrs. PrideFC use to book guys 2 weeks out before an event, some people didn’t even know they were fighting.

The person i was replying to has made it out that Shogun was not a good win for Jones and has made it which ever way to diminish it, because Shogun was “out of his prime” and an active ACL Injury. which Shogun in his own words said he was not injured going into that bout. It’s just coping mechanism to diminish Jones. I think the best Shogun ever looked were in the Machisa bouts, not many will agree because once Shogun lost to Forrest he was suddenly trash and out of his prime, career ending injury. Cope.
 
JudoThrowFiasco said:
Then why not retire in November officially? Why play it out for so long?
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My guess is that Jones wanted the Poatan fight. When that fell through, Jones made his demand for fighting Aspinall, Dana said "fuck no, how about a third of that," Jones said "fuck no, I'm going to Thailand," Dana said "okay, how about half," Jones rolled his eyes, Dana stewed for a few months, Dana decided to give in and announced that there was an agreement in principle without actually talking to Jones again, and Jones said "fuck you, Dana; I'm retiring."
 
I really do believe judging by Dana's body language that they were keeping Jon from retiring sooner to try and push their new TV deal.

Jons a knob, but maybe theres some truth when he says this was a UFC issue.
 
Luffy said:
Nah, all 3d chess. The UFC wants Tom to be more known by beating Gane, as a match still is not what they hope in PPV. Once he beats Gane (likely but who knows) and makes it way more known into promotion, then the reveal will all land on and JJ will pop up again and "NEW" ... Then have another defense bs whoever wins between Ankalaev and Alex.

Tom couldn't fight JJ holding the interim. That'd give him no $ participation ... So leaving the undisputed to him would both let the division move on and give Tom more $ by having the belt when fighting Jon Jones... That's if Alex loses. If Alex wins the rematch, he'd likely go to HW and steal Aspinall's win maybe. But unlikely, they'd bring JJ back (JJ said "well the UFC knows, I will still pop up for 1 or 2 more but for now let Tom build more" ) ...

It's like when DC had the belt and JJ had been stripped. JJ comes back with DC as the undisputed and wins. Dana said "September you all will be seeing something special" ... September matches the 6 months .. March+ 6 months = September. JJ meant November + 6 months = May... But it got reconstructed to September because of platforms deals , but waiting until then would bring the stalling when Dana said JJ accepted... The act now is for Tom to move the division a little and have the fight when it is more advantageous in a new platform. Ideally tho, JJ would like to it be seen by you all in Many rather than the 6 months needing to be read as from March... But espn+ end prevented that so they possibly did the May special so it can be used in a new platform... IFW fell short as again, special fights wouldn't be profitable as Netflix deal requires more time. That's why the already done rematch of Alex is now talked by Ali, Ankalaev and Alex as September, October or November

Ankalaev and Ali said October. Alex said September, October, November... To maximize the Chicago card as they all know the new platforms deal forces them to be on hold as special stars (Alex) and wait for when the fighters and promoters can get the most from the already done fights.
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Luffy, you're the current version of BJ Penn.
 
MMAFanCal said:
Hallelujah! Dana White looked super p*ssed when he said that. Clearly, they both had a verbal spat and Dana White declared him retired. I can bet, Jones tried to convince Dana White on letting him keep the belt and pick his next "legacy fight" (or whatever f'ck that means).

I think Dana White is unilaterally declaring Jones retired because Jones is refusing to abide by the contract and defend the title against the interim champion.
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I reckon it's more likely the UFC was thinking the prospect of a Jones Aspinall fight would help them get a better TV deal, and that Jones retiring has just fucked it for them.

I also am starting to believe that maybe the UFC had known Jones was planning to retire, and had told him to keep it quiet.
 
Jones definitely tried to break this record without fighting lol

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Fedorgasm said:
So he wasted a year and a half of Tom's prime just for laughs? What a dick.
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Where are you getting 1.5 years?

Like you do realize Tom became interim champ because Jon was injured right
 
ShadowRun said:
I honestly forgot about it @Portland8242 told me a week ago and forgot about it lol . I apologize SherBro . It’s a funny AV btw good pick
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Not everyone seems to see it that way with the AV. I received a PM a while ago because it seemed to be confusing the person.
And the main reason I was able to respond so quickly was because Luffy offered me a bet to delete his account if JBJ-Aspinall doesn't materialize. Which seems pretty certain now. But he's still there, spreading his alternate reality.
 
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