Crime Dallas Officer Kills Man in Apartment "She Thought Was Hers"

[Leagon]

Because that's how the law works? You know, that bit about assuming not guilty, until is proven guilty?

In this case, it's "Manslaughter until proven Murder". If you have any evidents that remotely suggested that she is lying about this being an accident and this is actually a planned and premeditated murder, feel free to post it to make your case.

Premeditated murder is not the only form of murder.

Our law says "innocent until proven guilty" not "believed until proven a liar". Just because she is currently innocent doesn't mean that what she says is true.

Again, she said the door was ajar and that she walked in and saw him and issued commands and he didn't respond. Do you believe this?

To be clear, this wasn't an "accident". Maybe that's why you think murder is inappropriate? There was no accident in this situation other than her accidentally being in the wrong place. But the shooting was deliberate. She's not being charged for being in the wrong place, she's being charged for shooting someone.

 

[all caps]

This isn't the first time she's shot someone though. She's shot someone before and the prosecution is keeping the details of that shooting sealed instead of allowing that to be made public and used against her in this trial......Hmmmm

Wow I didnt know this.

They will release this info right after she walks, intensifying the already loud riots.

 

[Leagon]

This isn't the first time she's shot someone though. She's shot someone before and the prosecution is keeping the details of that shooting sealed instead of allowing that to be made public and used against her in this trial......Hmmmm

I didn't know this. Do you have a link?

 

[Deleted member 539235]

*relaxes in own apartment*

*gets shot*

 

[vengeful]

I didn't know this. Do you have a link?

Guyger and another officer were called as backup to a felony traffic stop May 12, 2017, in the 8300 block of Reva Street in southeast Dallas. Undercover officers had been looking for a woman wanted on a felony arrest warrant, according to court records.

During the traffic stop, Guyger and her partner were approaching the car when Uvaldo Bernal Perez got out of the back seat. Perez resisted while one of the officers was checking to see if the man had weapons, arrest records show.

Guyger tried to help, but “Perez increased his resistance,” an arrest warrant says. Guyger used her Taser on Perez, but Perez took the Taser from her. That’s when Guyger shot Perez once in the abdomen, records show.

Perez, 48, pleaded guilty in February 2018 to felony taking a weapon from an officer.

https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/s...ting/287-81216bfc-69a5-46a2-b642-a281751fd09e

 

[jamel]

I see a clergyman who loved all people regardless of race and was doing big things to help his surrounding community, get shot by a cop that has posted past evidence of wanting thanks for a thankless job.

Seems to me those of you trolling and pointing out shit in that call know exactly whats going on, but will call those that riot due to the fuck-fuck games, barbaric.

You know good and damn well why we are hostile.

We get the prosecution has a job to do, but gotdamn, couldnt they do a lil less with the "wounded frail white girl" act?

Bet money they try to demonize Botham in some fashion, which will also be fuel for the fire, but yall already know that too.

 

[Arkain2K]

I like how they're emphasizing that Guyger's white and Jean is black, as if it's pertinent to the shooting.

Trial opens of US cop who killed neighbor in his own apartment
AFP•September 6, 2019

Washington (AFP) - A white policewoman went on trial in Dallas Friday for shooting and killing a black man in his own apartment, having mistaken it for hers.

Exactly one year after Amber Guyger, 31, killed Botham Shem Jean, 26, jury selection in the racially charged murder case began in the Texas city.

Guyger's attorneys have sought to move the case to another jurisdiction, on grounds that potential jurors in Dallas may already have strong views on the case, given the heavy media coverage it has fuelled.

The judge put off ruling on the request, saying she wanted to see if it would be possible to assemble a fair and impartial jury in Dallas.

Guyger told investigators she mistakenly entered the apartment of Jean, a native of St. Lucia in the Caribbean, one floor above her own, when she returned home from work on the evening of September 6, 2018.

Believing she was at her own apartment and seeing a silhouette of a figure who didn't respond to verbal commands, she fired two shots, killing him.

"I thought it was my apartment," she said in a 911 emergency call.

Guyger was only arrested 72 hours later and then charged with just manslaughter, sparking anger in the African-American community, which saw the case as potentially another one of a white police officer getting off lightly for killing a black man.

But after a grand jury investigation, Guyger, who has been fired from the police department, was charged with first-degree murder, which is punishable under Texas law with up to life in prison.

https://news.yahoo.com/trial-opens-us-cop-killed-neighbor-own-apartment-161444440.html

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

But after a grand jury investigation, Guyger, who has been fired from the police department, was charged with first-degree murder, which is punishable under Texas law with up to life in prison.

I'm concerned they are overcharging her in order to get an acquittal. Isn't malice aforethought required for 1st degree, or being in the act of committing some other violent felony?

 

[HunterAcosta]

WOOD

 

[Arkain2K]

I'm concerned they are overcharging her in order to get an acquittal. Isn't malice aforethought required for 1st degree, or being in the act of committing some other violent felony?

Yeah, the District Attorney correctly charged her with manslaughter, but the grand jury upgraded the charged to first degree murder.

I think that overcharging might have just acquitted her, unless there's some kind of bombshell evident surfaces that prove beyond a doubt that this wasn't a tragic accident.

 

[Andy Capp]

Yeah, the District Attorney correctly charged her with manslaughter, but the grand jury upgraded the charged to first degree murder.

I think that overcharging might have just acquitted her, unless there's some kind of bombshell evident surfaces that prove beyond a doubt that this wasn't a tragic accident.

What are the odds the grand jury couldn't understand the implications of this action?

 

[Andy Capp]

I like how they're emphasizing that Guyger's white and Jean is black, as if it's pertinent to the shooting.

I'm curious whether you noticed the news agency providing the story, AFP of France. It's a rather specific "they" that has little connection with most users interested in this. You know how people are around here. Many will not notice and it will fuel their already out of control fear of so-called MSM bias.

Just sayin'.

Do you have any American, or better yet, local sources to see if they do the same thing? That might be significant.

 

[all caps]

What are the odds the grand jury couldn't understand the implications of this action?

I like the way you think.

An accident, I'm sure!

 

[all caps]

If Botham would have just complied he could have had his day in court. But here we are.

 

[ToxicShocker]

What are the odds the grand jury couldn't understand the implications of this action?

Does castle defense apply if bad guy is inside and homeowner is outside? Cause by King of The Hill rules its his castle now.

 

[Andy Capp]

Does castle defense apply if bad guy is inside and homeowner is outside? Cause by King of The Hill rules its his castle now.

The implication from what she said in the post above was that she thought it was her home so she was immune if she opened fire no matter what the justification, so probably. Puts into perspective the numerous posters on this forum who have openly stated their fantasies of encountering something similar, doesn't it?

 

[SamSchmidt]

Damn this is old-school. Something new happen in the case?

 

[ToxicShocker]

The implication from what she said in the post above was that she thought it was her home so she was immune if she opened fire no matter what the justification, so probably. Puts into perspective the numerous posters on this forum who have openly stated their fantasies of encountering something similar, doesn't it?

I can't remember the particulars of her case, but it begs the question. If you are standing in the hallway (apartment) and hes stationary deep inside the house are you really in any danger? To many variables to know for sure though.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

You're talking to a guy whose Pro-Trayvon Pro-Michael Brown. Not a "cop" guy.

I'm also not one of those "lock em up guys"
I think most people shouldn't be in jail.

In this case, I think she made an honest mistake.
I feel bad for the victim too, but I don't think we should throw her in jail.
That does nothing. He's not coming back, and there is no real lesson for her to learn. She fucked up. That's it.

It isn't like this is the 15th time shes broken into a house, where its like "Hey fucker you're gonna sit in here for awhile until you learn"

Take her badge, put her on probation and make her and the department pay millions upon millions.

We need to start getting rid of the jail shit. We don't need that many fuckin people in jail.

Do people normally serve time for manslaughter? Maybe she wasn't planning on killing this guy but the consequences of her error should be more than just an "Oops, sorry about that.".

 

[all caps]

Do people normally serve time for manslaughter? Maybe she wasn't planning on killing this guy but the consequences of her error should be more than just an "Oops, sorry about that.".

People dont usually shoot someone right between the eyes when they dont wanna kill them, I think.

They dont usually bang on the door yelling "open up" to their own house, after trying and failing to get inside with their key. But that's just my opinion.