Crime Dallas Officer Kills Man in Apartment "She Thought Was Hers"

method115 said:
Could be wrong but I remember hearing she did but it was like the next day.
Click to expand...

Prosecutor needs to bring this up in trial, if she got a day pass its absurd. Would being under the influence make for the murder charge stick easier?
 
Crazy Diamond said:
IIRC there's no 1st or 2nd degree in Texas. So, that's another text book they didn't read LOL.

But seriously, I don't recall exactly what they do instead, or whether she can be convicted on a lesser charge, but they don't do the degree thing.
Click to expand...
Texas has both 1st and 2nd degree it's just called something else. Almost every single state in the USA has 2nd degree regardless of what they want to technically label it as.

The label doesn't matter in terms of sentencing, they have a textbook 2nd degree charge they can give her

Your overthinking this
 
Last edited:
Ranger said the bullet went from around the doorway and lodged into the wall near/above the couch. Kinda diagonal across the room. Botham woulda had to line up straight in front of her if he was gonna charge her. That angle implies he was around the couch when shot. Watching TV and eating ice cream.
 
Prosecution has rested. Apparently Amber is getting coached now to go on the stand.
 
I think Guyger is taking the stand in 5 minutes............

<30><30><30>
 
Leagon said:
Ranger said the bullet went from around the doorway and lodged into the wall near/above the couch. Kinda diagonal across the room. Botham woulda had to line up straight in front of her if he was gonna charge her. That angle implies he was around the couch when shot. Watching TV and eating ice cream.
Click to expand...

hopefully my man went out with a head full of THC and a mouthful of ice cream at least, it's more than most get when gunned down in their own home by the fuzz
 
Crazy Diamond said:
Additional Criteria for Capital Murder in Texas

In addition to the above criteria, in order for the charge to be capital murder, as opposed to just "murder' in Texas, one of the following must apply:

  • The victim is a peace officer or fireman who was acting under lawful duty at the time of the crime;
Click to expand...

Does this mean she can't pull the "I was acting as a cop" card?
 
jefferz said:
Prosecution has rested. Apparently Amber is getting coached now to go on the stand.
Click to expand...
hmm, didn't expect that.

Are they in panic mode after the prosecution's case or was this planned, I wonder?
 
Expected to go to the jury tomorrow or no?
 
PHATV said:
Expected to go to the jury tomorrow or no?
Click to expand...

Unless I missed something, I don't think the defense has presented their case yet. Think we've got a couple of days left.
 
method115 said:
Could be wrong but I remember hearing she did but it was like the next day.
Click to expand...
I thought she got drug and even alcohol immediately and there was nothing? I really do think I remember that. Because I thought she had been drinking after work to end up on the wrong floor.

I know two dudes (two separate incidents) who went into "their apartment" drunk and it was "their apartment"---in the identical building next door. But they were d-runk drunk, too. One guy left when he realized he was in the wrong place/they knew him, whatever. One guy passed out on the couch (these were standard 2BD apartments) and everyone had the couch in the same spot and a TV in front of it (30 years ago) so he was OUT. People (they did NOT know him) got up and called the cops, and once he sobered up a bit and realized what happened he explained to the police and they called his apartment (where I was racked on the couch because his roommate was a buddy of mine and we had been out at the bars). Hold on, it gets good, here...
So like 3:30/4am the phone rings next to my head and I answer. Police identify themselves, ask if I know a James Smith or whatever and I'm like "no". They said no James Smith lives there? I said I told you no, already. He hung up. My buddy's roommate James Smith, who I had never heard referred to as anything but "Chico" (ever), went to jail that night. lol
True story. He was salty about it. I legit didn't know his name wasn't Chico.

I still think this cop lady will get a very, very light sentence. Tragic, but honestly lacks any malice, really. Just gross incompetence. For which she'll be punished, but not what people are hoping for or even expecting, I'm afraid. I hope Dallas doesn't get stupid after, but it probably will.
 
Madmick said:
And voluntary manslaughter is the correct conviction consistent with the spirit of the law.
Click to expand...


The "spirit of the law" is the definition of the offense in the Texas penal code.

https://codes.findlaw.com/tx/penal-code/penal-sect-19-02.html





She shot center mass twice, from which you can infer the intention to kill, and there's no reasonable grounds for self-defense.

Guyger committed murder.

The only reason that this is even an argument is because she was a cop at the time that the offense was committed.

There are all sorts of people who didn't even kill anybody rotting in Texas prisons under murder convictions because of the felony murder rule.
 
Last edited:
Phisher said:
The "spirit of the law" is the definition of the offense in the Texas penal code.

https://codes.findlaw.com/tx/penal-code/penal-sect-19-02.html

Guyger committed murder.

Click to expand...


In my experience as a ADA though, trajectory analysis is still kinda a pseudo-science. There are scores of things that can cause a particular trajectory. She could have overdrawn/raised to high in a panic and squeezed a shot on the correction. He could have pitched forward or stumbled. I just remember viewing these type of reports while also having CCTV of a shooting. So I could see the whole thing go down and we'd still have some wacky ballistic shit that, alone, might have painted a different story.

Now that being said, I don't believes this chicks story one bit. She's guilty of manslaughter at a minimum. She has the burden to prove self defense. Her, "I thought I was in my apartment and so I thought that dude getting up from his own couch was an intruder so I shot him," is just pure horseshit.
 
Not really into race bait topics but what's going to go down here.

Few years in jail for her? Best case / worse case scenarios for her?

Was this an accident or did they know each other. Sounds to me like they knew each other and he's pissed her off and she's taken it into her own hands.
 
Last edited:
Darkballs said:
In my experience as a ADA though, trajectory analysis is still kinda a pseudo-science. There are scores of things that can cause a particular trajectory. She could have overdrawn/raised to high in a panic and squeezed a shot on the correction. He could have pitched forward or stumbled. I just remember viewing these type of reports while also having CCTV of a shooting. So I could see the whole thing go down and we'd still have some wacky ballistic shit that, alone, might have painted a different story.

Now that being said, I don't believes this chicks story one bit. She's guilty of manslaughter at a minimum. She has the burden to prove self defense. Her, "I thought I was in my apartment and so I thought that dude getting up from his own couch was an intruder so I shot him," is just pure horseshit.
Click to expand...
I'm skeptical about this "rushing" business, but everyone should have learned from all the discussion surrounding related cases during the Michael Brown case. When attackers rush they don't necessarily assume a perfectly upright position. In fact, that's pretty normal for a bull charge.

The prosecution's own case opened with the "sexting angle" in which they suggested she was distracted, because they wanted to get ahead of that by portraying her negatively, but of course that bolsters the logic she was distracted & discombobulated, and therefore believed she confronted an intruder in her own apartment. Any steps he might have taken towards her in such a scenario could conceivably be construed to be interpreted by her as a threat, and while she willfully shot him, it certainly doesn't entail that she intended to murder him.

The first reply to that tweet hit the nailed it on the head:


Of course, I pointed that out months ago.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Latest posts

Forum statistics

Threads
1,275,235
Messages
57,976,495
Members
175,889
Latest member
MEthzale

Share this page

Back
Top